D1x LCD way to much contrast?

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After having my D1x about a week, I have no complaints except one. Why does the LCD screen have so much contrast? Shooting furniture setups today I was seeing the shadows and dark wood appear very dark on the LCD. The LCD brightness setting does nothing to decrease contrast. After opening these images in Bibble tonight the photo are absolutely great but they really don’t look good on the DX1s LCD. My D1 never had this contrast problem. Makes it hard to judge how good the photo really is. Anyone else notice this. Am I missing some setting?
 
Doyle,

I must say I've never seen an LCD display that wasn't contrasty, so it is a surprise to hear you say that the D1 isn't.

Regards,
Geoff
After having my D1x about a week, I have no complaints except one.
Why does the LCD screen have so much contrast? Shooting furniture
setups today I was seeing the shadows and dark wood appear very
dark on the LCD. The LCD brightness setting does nothing to
decrease contrast. After opening these images in Bibble tonight the
photo are absolutely great but they really don’t look good on
the DX1s LCD. My D1 never had this contrast problem. Makes it hard
to judge how good the photo really is. Anyone else notice this. Am
I missing some setting?
 
Geoff

My D1x's LCD is a whole lot more contrasty than than my D1. If it wasn't for the historgrams I would not be comfortable with my lighting setups. With the D1 I could judge the lighting setups much better. I just think the D1x should not be showing that much contrast. My CM setting is for low contrast and anyway I am shooting NEFs so I don't know if it matter. I guess I'll have to do some testing to see if any of the other file formats make any difference though that won't really help because I will only be shooting in NEF format.

Doyle
Doyle,

I must say I've never seen an LCD display that wasn't contrasty, so
it is a surprise to hear you say that the D1 isn't.

Regards,
Geoff
 
i switched from a D1 to a D1X and found exactly the same thing! It
really threw me off. I tried adjusting the brightness too, no help.
After using the D1X for 500+ images I have given up using the LCD screen as a means to determine if the exposure is correct. By contrast, pun intended, the Nikon 990 screen is much more effective.

John Latta
 
Alll,

In my research about this very problem prior to purchasing the D1X, I was told that you just shouldn't rely on the LCD. Flat out! Period the end! No one ever really answered the question. Almost like they were afraid to say what (I suspected) and (we all) are now finding out with pro level camera's. That wasn't my question however. It was why, can on a consumer level camera, you get a "much" better LCD image than on a supposed pro level camera. Yes, yes, I use the histogram, and yes the bottom line is that no LCD should be trusted for proper exposure (although I really think they could be if the manufacturers wanted it so.). But you folks have hit the " nail on the head" here by giving a clear example and also restating how a consumer level camera (990) will give a better pictoral representation of the exposure.

I believe it is also a combination of this "post processing frenzy" and "wave" of softwares that some emphasis has either inadvertantly been taken away from the LCD, or the action is purposeful in nature to "force" our reliance on the processing software, thus not trusting the LCD pictoral electronics.

Now help me out here. We should definitely trust and feel comfortable with the camera's CCD output being equal to in many cases and sometimes superior, for producing photographs (as compared to film). But we should "never" trust the LCD pictoral review representation of the shot we have just taken? Perhaps True! When you factor in that the LCD is not up to task as the CCD is. But the ultimate question becomes WHY? The technology is certainly there. And as has just been stated again, the lesser camera's have a closer to accurate representation.

To me, the main advantage of digital is to have the ability to review what has been captured immediately so that many additional shots can be eliminated (as with film). We can and should, still make processing adjustments for a final product. But it seems as though we are slipping into "it can't be good unless we run it through levels or unsharp mask, etc."

Why can't it be good enough, right out of the camera, with very fine or limited adjustments made? I can tell you this. It (photographs), can't even start to be good enough on their own, right out of the camera, if the review of the captured image is subpar because the review LCD is subpar. We would be back to taking multiple shots (as with film) because the LCD can't be trusted. OR, using our histograms exclusively and relying on softwares for post processing perfection and still taking more shots than if the LCD's were right on. Basically what is happening now.
Just my penny here,

Mel
i switched from a D1 to a D1X and found exactly the same thing! It
really threw me off. I tried adjusting the brightness too, no help.
After using the D1X for 500+ images I have given up using the LCD
screen as a means to determine if the exposure is correct. By
contrast, pun intended, the Nikon 990 screen is much more effective.

John Latta
 
I totally agree that the D1X has a much too contrasty LCD screen. I am coming from a CP990 where I had became very comfortable with the LCD screen and it never let me down or got me into trouble. One solution I have found is a little 5 inch color TV that I got on ebay for $80.00. I connect it to the video out and it sits next to the camera where my client and I can see it. I shoot mostly commercial on location where this is usually possible to set this up with no trouble. It is a great alternative to shooting Polaroid and needless to say, the client loves seeing everything in nearly real time. The TV has controllable contrast and I seem to be getting a better preview of the photo from it than the LCD.
 
Hello Everybody

I find my LCD useless for much of my work so I have given up using it and save my battery power. I have been working in contrasty outdoors situations and to be honest can't see much on my screen when ever I try looking.

What I do is look at things on my lap top when I feel I need too and most of the time shoot and wait til I am back in the studio to see things.

It's just barely useable for very fast non critical edits in the field but its for the most part a useless battery sucking gadget in my eyes.

Stephen
I totally agree that the D1X has a much too contrasty LCD screen.
I am coming from a CP990 where I had became very comfortable with
the LCD screen and it never let me down or got me into trouble.
One solution I have found is a little 5 inch color TV that I got on
ebay for $80.00. I connect it to the video out and it sits next to
the camera where my client and I can see it. I shoot mostly
commercial on location where this is usually possible to set this
up with no trouble. It is a great alternative to shooting
Polaroid and needless to say, the client loves seeing everything in
nearly real time. The TV has controllable contrast and I seem to be
getting a better preview of the photo from it than the LCD.
 
Well I guess we are all in the same boat. I use mine outdoors on a motocross track so I won't be carrying a TV along. Any tips for looking at histograms? I haven't been doing it that way yet.
 
Steve,

Perhaps one of the more proficient people can do better at this, but for a basic rule, if you have a large spike at either end of the spectrum, more than likely you will need to retake the shot. I'm not sure that understanding all the details is so important initially however I am sure Stephen or one of the others can refer you to a site or give a much more scientific guideline for use.

Mel
Well I guess we are all in the same boat. I use mine outdoors on a
motocross track so I won't be carrying a TV along. Any tips for
looking at histograms? I haven't been doing it that way yet.
 

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