Your opinion - Future of Memory Sticks compared to SD cards

Pyogenes said:

bdery said:

Pyogenes said:

bdery said:

Doiscussions, even with strong and contraditory arguments, should
remain discussion, healthy and polite. "Wiping eggs of my face" as
you put it doesn't sound as rational healthy argument to me.

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Since you took offense to that phrase, I'm guessing you aren't
familiar with that particular figure of speech. It is simply a
colorful way of saying, "you are mistaken" with little negative
connotation attached to it. There is no suggestion of me throwing
eggs at you. My apologies if you felt that was of an immature,
derisive nature - that was not my intent.

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When we French-canadians thwo eggs at people, we mean it to be
bad...

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I'll try to be more mindful about the phrases I use in the future.
I'm usually pretty good at avoiding phrases that might be
culturally misunderstood, but I screwed up this time. I hope there
is no bad blood between us.

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don't worry, all's clear.

Pyogenes said:

Pyogenes said:

6-a fully standard format is better for everyone (imagine if there
were four different CDs formats)

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well that one is opinion, many would argue that competition drives
innovation.

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I'd give you that one, except that in this case its not truly innovation. MS is the sme as everything else, excet for the shape and controller. I'd say, for example, that Sandisk's SD card with USB plug is much more innovative than the MS format.

Pyogenes said:

Pyogenes said:

Will MS disapear? Not soon, anyway. Is MS the best format out
there? I strongly believe it ain't so. Will PSP make MS a
high-selling format? Probably. Does that make MS a suitable format
for digicams? No link between those two questions.

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Ah ha! that's where our argument lies. I was not claiming that MS
is a good format but rather it is poised to do well despite its
inadequacies (and thus is unlikely to go away). I probably did not
do a good job at explaining my position.

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Or I misread. Anyway, I agree that MS will continue, but I think if Sony doesn't react soon, they'll be the only ones using something different than SD and CF in digicams. As for PSP and other mediums, it's a different story.

Pyogenes said:

Pyogenes said:

What's baseless in this?

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I was referring to your comment stating the thread was Sony owners
vs everyone else. I felt that was an unfair assumption since I am
not a Sony owner (I used to be, but now I use Canon equipment)

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I was speaking in general terms. But you DID use Sony, and sometimes that feeds loyalty. I feel bad when people overcriticize Nikon, I admit.

Discussing only by text often brings this kind of troubles. You didn't mean ill, I took it bad. Now we're all set, and we've been around the question, mostly agreeing with each other.

Pyogenes said:

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Joe

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bdery

Québec city, Canada
Cool,pix S Q

Pyogenes said:

Again, Sony is not the only company to use MS. Konica Minolta does
for cameras as does Samsung. NEC, Samsung and Mitsubishi use them
in camera phones. Just because you don't see these products in the
US doesn't mean they don't exist or aren't important.

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You are right, Sony created (with Sandisk) Memory Sticks. And I've seen the Mitsubishi cell phones that use the Memory Stick Duo.

I'm glad Sony uses expensive Memory Sticks because that means that more and more people will stop buying their cameras but Sony will still think that they're getting more money from those people buying the MS.

I don't want to say that Sony products are all bad, but the ones I have had have been bad and incompatible with anything I hooked them up with. Also, tech support gave me the runaround so many times that I'll never, ever buy another Sony product, even if they do currently have the world's smallest 3x zoom camera. If it says "Sony," I hate it. And Mitsubishi jumped on my dislike list with the release of the Memory Stick Duo phone in 2002.

bdery said:

bdery said:

SD isn't the end of the road. The SD-ish form factor may still
have some legs, but eventually we'll be using some card that's
shaped like an SD card but much faster and higher capacity and such.

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Maybe. Who knows? Olympus tried that with the xD, but since they
forgot to respect the SD form factor, it's not popular

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Yeah, it's simple: if your camera doesn't use SD or CF, we're not buying it. Let Olympus, Fuji, and Sony be dumb and see how many cameras they don't sell to people who have other cameras who want to use interchangeable cards.

I have a few Mini SDs but my current phone uses a full-size SD so I just use the $5 adaptor. I can slip that in my sd-Minolta or sd-Canon compact camera stoo. I've had 3 camera with CF and I can slip the mini SD in the CF card slot with 2 adaptors. I'd rather buy 2 adaptors for $25 than spend another $200 on memory, especially if Sony's going to get the money.

random2 said:

Betamax-respected in professional work, not consumer.
Minidisc-not a bad format, just not licensed to any other
significant players
Memorystick-probably will lose
UMD-this will die too
ATRAC compression-will die

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Beta was Sony? Didn't know that. Minidisc is still VERY, VERY popular in Asia. I didn't know that was Sony to begin with, but all popular companies make Minidisc players. They are more popular, in Japan at least, because most people are computer illiterate and unable to download MP3s.

random2 said:

Consumer electronics arm of sony has been bleeding for years while
being propped up by their videogame stuff. They let their brand
loyalty/recognition for their monitors, televisions, and midfi
audio erode a long time ago imho.

Kind of a shame, some of the stuff they came up with was very nice
tech, but by keeping it propietary in markets they didn't dominate
prevented it from really catching on.

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Shows they're selfish and hard-headed, huh?

Haha, nice read guys! You guys are funny, but I commend both of you on not getting mad.

What I learned:
SD and CF are better than MS.

Sony is popular and they will continue to use MS to make more money for themselves.