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350 XT is Faaaantastic! (wedding pictures)

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I think you got some nice shots, and you have a great new tool to use in learning new skills.

I'd like to suggest that in bright sunlight situations, that you use your flash for fill light, in every shot where your subject is in flash range (I think up to about twelve feet with the popup). This will help bring shadow details up to a level closure to the ambient light, decrease contrast in the foreground subject, and will also add attractive catchlights to the eyes of the people in flash range.
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Brad Oaks
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We could not see that the camera performed fantastically. We could not see the picture quality. We could not see the superiority to a P&S camera, because we only got to see small resized images.

Does your camera focus right? We can't see that because resizing masks focus errors.

Does your camera have excellent low noise? We can't see that because resizing masks noise.

Does your lens produce sharp images, even in the corners? We can't see that because resizing masks unsharpness.

We do want to see images like yours. But we want links to full size images to see what the images are really like. What you posted was a "teaser" with no access to the real thing.

So you were pretty close to giving us what we wanted. All it took to make it a useful post was a link to full size images.

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brobar,

I looked at the pix you and your wife took on your last trip, and sympathize with the ISO setting glitch. I have done that once or twice (thrice?) myself, although I am more prone to leave exposure comp set someplace where I don't want it.

I know we can't always pick the time of day when a photo opportunity presents itself, but if you can, try to avoid high-sun hours on sunny days. If you must, though, use care to expose for the highlights, watch your Histogram for blowouts, and use fill flash where practicable. For things like macro shots of flowers, a piece of white foam core makes a nice reflector for bouncing sunlight back in to fill harsh shadows.

I occasionally get around to other forums, and I must say this one could use an attitude check. On the one hand people will say, "if you want to post pictures, put them on S&G, this is a Canon forum". At other times, "these pictures stink, and why are you wasting my time by posting them"

I really don't understand this attitude. I think both kinds of image posts, good and not-so-good, have a great deal of value on this forum, or on the one I ususally hang out on.

The posts of high quality, or professional images are useful in that they show what the equipment can do, provide inspiration to others, and can demonstrate a particular technique or accessory.

The images posted by newbies or those seeking critique or comment are even more valuable, in my estimation. If the responses are sincere and constructive, a great learning opportunity exists.

BTW, if you want some good constructive suggestions, post the pix on the D70 forum. I think your chances of getting instruction and at least a gentler response are greater there.
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Brad Oaks
Pbase supporter
 
Let's be fair to the guy. He is excited at the prospect of his 350XT and this is not a site just for professionals. Let's stop this smug attitude. If you don't enjoy seeing other people's honest attempt, just click on the 'Back" button and go elseqhere.

By the way, the Pulgas Temple is a great place for a wedding photo venue. Had many a stop there during my bicycling days along Canada Road.
 
That foam core reflector sounds like an affordable and great idea! Thanks for the tip!
FJBrad said:
brobar,
I looked at the pix you and your wife took on your last trip, and
sympathize with the ISO setting glitch. I have done that once or
twice (thrice?) myself, although I am more prone to leave exposure
comp set someplace where I don't want it.
I know we can't always pick the time of day when a photo
opportunity presents itself, but if you can, try to avoid high-sun
hours on sunny days. If you must, though, use care to expose for
the highlights, watch your Histogram for blowouts, and use fill
flash where practicable. For things like macro shots of flowers, a
piece of white foam core makes a nice reflector for bouncing
sunlight back in to fill harsh shadows.
I occasionally get around to other forums, and I must say this one
could use an attitude check. On the one hand people will say, "if
you want to post pictures, put them on S&G, this is a Canon forum".
At other times, "these pictures stink, and why are you wasting my
time by posting them"
I really don't understand this attitude. I think both kinds of
image posts, good and not-so-good, have a great deal of value on
this forum, or on the one I ususally hang out on.
The posts of high quality, or professional images are useful in
that they show what the equipment can do, provide inspiration to
others, and can demonstrate a particular technique or accessory.
The images posted by newbies or those seeking critique or comment
are even more valuable, in my estimation. If the responses are
sincere and constructive, a great learning opportunity exists.
BTW, if you want some good constructive suggestions, post the pix
on the D70 forum. I think your chances of getting instruction and
at least a gentler response are greater there.
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Brad Oaks
Pbase supporter
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HaplessClick said:
I'll strive to be more clear about my points when I post next.
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No need to apologize. It's some of the the bl* y snobs I see on this forum who need to. I log onto THREE different camera forums and I find the other two MUCH friendlier. And I've been a photographer for over 40 years.
 
Aron

These are good shots that show us what the 350D / Rebel XT can do in a real life situation. Your family willl love them and I have learned something from looking at them.

I didn't realise that this forum had so many bitchy primadonnas. I suggest you ignore the obvious CAs.
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Best regards
Vince Cunningham
 
You don't think we are friendly? Perhaps we should resort to name calling and swearing at each other.
dalite said:
dalite said:
I'll strive to be more clear about my points when I post next.
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No need to apologize. It's some of the the bl* y snobs I see on
this forum who need to. I log onto THREE different camera forums
and I find the other two MUCH friendlier. And I've been a
photographer for over 40 years.
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Forgot to mention that it can double as a shade. You can also put reflective mylar (different colors, or neutral silver) on one side for a different effect. Chuck it when it gets dirty and get a new one. Some types of windshield shades fold up to a bag-size reflector. Of course you can also get discs from a camera store, but I'm a big fan of cheap, disposable light modifiers.

Foam core with a black side makes a great backdrop for shooting flowers, if you can't pull them up and take them back to your studio.

Using flash, direct, or off-camera bounced and diffused is another way to enhance macros.
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Brad Oaks
Pbase supporter
 
Coming from a digicam, then a bridge digital camera, I have always been disapointed by the poor results one (me especially) can obtain indoor in such occasions, so I am considering upgrading to an affordable Dslr.

Reading your post and browsing your pics at Pbase is very helpfull for me, and, whatever you could have written in the "Subject", my reaction can't be other than "the 350D looks Fantastic ! ". Your not claiming to be a professional and gifted photographer makes this testimony even more usefull for a beginner.

The results you obtained without using the flash confirm the presentiment I had that stabilized lens + usable high ISO (hence a Dslr) allow capturing nice (natural) pics I am not able to take with my current hardware (KM A2).
Discovering such information is what the forum is for, isn'it ?
Thank you for your contribution and forget some pretentious answers ;=)
Michel.
(Hope my English can be understood.)
 
Hi Michel,

I'm glad my pictures were helpful for you. Thank you for your comments.

Aron
sihm said:
Coming from a digicam, then a bridge digital camera, I have always
been disapointed by the poor results one (me especially) can obtain
indoor in such occasions, so I am considering upgrading to an
affordable Dslr.
Reading your post and browsing your pics at Pbase is very helpfull
for me, and, whatever you could have written in the "Subject", my
reaction can't be other than "the 350D looks Fantastic ! ". Your
not claiming to be a professional and gifted photographer makes
this testimony even more usefull for a beginner.
The results you obtained without using the flash confirm the
presentiment I had that stabilized lens + usable high ISO (hence a
Dslr) allow capturing nice (natural) pics I am not able to take
with my current hardware (KM A2).
Discovering such information is what the forum is for, isn'it ?
Thank you for your contribution and forget some pretentious answers
;=)
Michel.
(Hope my English can be understood.)
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Aron Digumarthi
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http://www.pbase.com/gern
 
Thanks Tony,

I completely agree that post processing will help these and almost any pictures straight out of the camera (be it a DSLR or P&S.) I expect to post process many of the photos in that gallery. With respect to image quality I was quite impressed with the pre-post processing quality of the images from the XT.

I am tempted to post a separate gallery of PP'ed shots to engage what I perceive as some misdirected criticism in this thread, but I'm not sure that the balance of the discussion would be particularly constructive or helpful.

Also, I see that you've reworked highly compressed and resized files. I think the results would be more pleasing working with the originals, but I certainly see what you are trying to show.

Thanks again,

Aron
tonydee said:
I hope you didnt mind..

with a little colour and contrast the photos came out fine..

sometimes underexposed need..to post processed
his the link of your photos unprocessed and processed

tony d

http://www.pbase.com/duke1960/test
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Aron Digumarthi
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and yes the xt photos are fine sraight out of the camera

to my EYE a little soft.

However Keep up the good work..

TD
 
Aron,

You are not quite right. If you try to make a macro picture of white paper(using different source of light) you would see that the white paper is not quite white. The same is with the white dress of the bride and the bed in the hotel room. The camera Auto WB is not working perfectly in many situations especially with mixed light sources. More importantly - the face color is not a white paper or dress and you must turn it look naturally. So you will need here postprocessing.

Next time just use Raw format to have more possibilities for postprocessing. You could use custom White Balance and change a bit exposure compensation when necessary. Ask your friends to get a better place (with better background) or change your position.

Regarding these pictures please compare (just quick levels and custom WB, hope you don't mind):
http://www.pbase.com/gern/image/41970555/large
http://community.webshots.com/photo/135270194/321537586uMHTAz
http://www.pbase.com/gern/image/41970640/large
http://community.webshots.com/photo/321537601/321537601Mapbdq
http://www.pbase.com/gern/image/41970558/large
http://community.webshots.com/photo/321537621/321537621IjrAWh

Take you time and try to improve your album shot by shot. You may also crop some pictures, blur the background, remove ocasional elements, make a frame using frame actions, etc.

Greetings,
Roumen
HaplessClick said:
What do you think?

Aron
HaplessClick said:
Groom getting ready:



Groom before guests arrive:



A guest at the rehearsal dinner - ISO 800 at max telephoto, 1/30 sec:



Groom getting ready:



Bride at sunset, after reception 1/20 sec (IS is great!)



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Aron Digumarthi
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http://www.pbase.com/gern
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Aron Digumarthi
[email protected]
http://www.pbase.com/gern
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Ah well, ignore me.

Too much work not to post. Its on here for a short while, then I'm deleting it forever. Its more extreme than it should be, but I could easily reduce the blurring to a more acceptable level not the masks are in place.

 
Whole-hearted support to you, Aaron.

What's the main element of a good photograph? Skill? Gear? No No! It's one's heart. The joy, the passion, the love. We all started somewhere, and I am sure many of us enjoy your joy being posted here.
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With the blessing of God, born with hands to perfect.
 
The last one is underexposed a way, probably picked up the white dress and thought there was more light than there was. The other 2 I like as they are.

The shot of the girl at the table is good at 1/30s, getting sharp shots that print at 12x8s on every shot is never going to happen. Call them soft if you like but I'd call them 7x5s :)

Andrew
 
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