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The real Cuba libre
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Wow I can understand your frustration Frances, although Phil does have a point About losing potential advertisers. But still I think allowing lingerie pictures is nothing more than a double standard.
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Phil Askey
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Al, you don't know the history behind this.. this a mild posting by Frances' standards.. If you want to see some of the other stuff he's posted take a look at his pbase galleries:
http://www.pbase.com/frances/lounge_chairs___
http://www.pbase.com/frances/new
http://www.pbase.com/frances/comfy_readers
http://www.pbase.com/frances/lounge_chairs___
http://www.pbase.com/frances/new
http://www.pbase.com/frances/comfy_readers
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William C
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AL
So you do not have a problem of people taking candid pictures
for titillation purposes. This is mild compare to what
Frances does and it seems sometimes he has to out do himself.
Then you get the Frances want a be, they have to out do him.
Frances posted once here an animation GIF of a women in a bathsuit
on the beach and her bust was flashing. What did that have to
do with this forum, I did not know.
Al please come up for air!
Bill
So you do not have a problem of people taking candid pictures
for titillation purposes. This is mild compare to what
Frances does and it seems sometimes he has to out do himself.
Then you get the Frances want a be, they have to out do him.
Frances posted once here an animation GIF of a women in a bathsuit
on the beach and her bust was flashing. What did that have to
do with this forum, I did not know.
Al please come up for air!
Bill
Geesh-- L this is worst than the Jerry Springer show. NO I don't have a problem with people posting candid pictures period, but that's only because this is not my forum. 
But the reality of it all is that it's great forum and business that provides a great free service, so since it’s not up to me what gets posted here I can only abide by and respect the rules and regulations as far as being a want a be I can only answer you in the same childish manner--- I know what you are but what am I
Titillation purposes? What are you some kind of pervert! coming up for air.
But the reality of it all is that it's great forum and business that provides a great free service, so since it’s not up to me what gets posted here I can only abide by and respect the rules and regulations as far as being a want a be I can only answer you in the same childish manner--- I know what you are but what am I Titillation purposes? What are you some kind of pervert! coming up for air.
So you do not have a problem of people taking candid pictures
for titillation purposes. This is mild compare to what
Frances does and it seems sometimes he has to out do himself.
Then you get the Frances want a be, they have to out do him.
Frances posted once here an animation GIF of a women in a bathsuit
on the beach and her bust was flashing. What did that have to
do with this forum, I did not know.
Al please come up for air!
Bill
Jerry Allen
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I wait with baited breath the day when MY 16 year old shows up in her bathing suit at the end of your camera.
Without any hint of morality or just common sense you shoot photos of unwilling subjects and post them on your websites as personal property.
Be damned the laws of this country. Where is your respect for others privacy?
Without any hint of morality or just common sense you shoot photos of unwilling subjects and post them on your websites as personal property.
Be damned the laws of this country. Where is your respect for others privacy?
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William C
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AL
I take my post back that was to you. I did not realized know
I was disagreeing with a Jerry Springer fan. That is
you, incase it does not sink in. I should have reply to
a brick wall, higher IQ.
Bill
I take my post back that was to you. I did not realized know
I was disagreeing with a Jerry Springer fan. That is
you, incase it does not sink in. I should have reply to
a brick wall, higher IQ.
Bill
So you do not have a problem of people taking candid pictures
for titillation purposes. This is mild compare to what
Frances does and it seems sometimes he has to out do himself.
Then you get the Frances want a be, they have to out do him.
Frances posted once here an animation GIF of a women in a bathsuit
on the beach and her bust was flashing. What did that have to
do with this forum, I did not know.
Al please come up for air!
Bill
Ian Johnston
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clausiam
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Replying to a brick wall
For the world is the sphere that connects all natural life
But the fear of human balance is the distance
For human kind
Jerry Springer
July 18 2001
For the world is the sphere that connects all natural life
But the fear of human balance is the distance
For human kind
Jerry Springer
July 18 2001
I take my post back that was to you. I did not realized know
I was disagreeing with a Jerry Springer fan. That is
you, incase it does not sink in. I should have reply to
a brick wall, higher IQ.
Bill
So you do not have a problem of people taking candid pictures
for titillation purposes. This is mild compare to what
Frances does and it seems sometimes he has to out do himself.
Then you get the Frances want a be, they have to out do him.
Frances posted once here an animation GIF of a women in a bathsuit
on the beach and her bust was flashing. What did that have to
do with this forum, I did not know.
Al please come up for air!
Bill
Jerry Allen
Well-known member
I have just indulged myself in a 1 hour search and read session on this subject.
There seems to be a general attitude that candid photography is LEGAL, and that is somewhat puzzling to me, but it is legal and it completely depends on the character of the camera operator. However there is also a general attitude among professionals that;
Not my words, not my judgement...
"those that claim to have the "right" to photograph anything in public any time, have the lowest respect for others, and the highest desire for self gratification, not the well being of the human race"
Very contraversial subject.
C
clausiam
Guest
I guess if it was illegal there wouldn't be many tabloids like National Enquirer etc left pretty soon. Hmm, that doesn't sound too bad actually ;-)
phil wigglesworth
Leading Member
I'm not sure that the legality of "candid" photos is relevant.
How about:
(1) This is a free place run by Phil Askey. We're here as his guests. If he politely asks us (say) not to post pictures of cats, then we shouldn't post pictures of cats. There are lots of other places where those things can be posted.
It doesn't matter what the rule is - Phil makes it, and we decide to either stay and follow the rule, or go someplace else. What's not acceptable is to hear and understand the rule and then fart about. Come on guys, show a bit of dignity.
(2) I use my computer to browse this site. It's a company computer because I'm what you guys would call "a professional". I don't want to have to explain to the IT police at my company how come I have soft porn on my machine. As it happens those guys work for me, but I still don't want soft porn on my machine. This is a * photography * site. I don't want to have to explain to anyone looking over my shoulder that I'm not actually a tosser. I can't KF you on here.
USENET is probably the best place for you to post porn of all descriptions. The other stuff will fit in here just fine.
How about:
(1) This is a free place run by Phil Askey. We're here as his guests. If he politely asks us (say) not to post pictures of cats, then we shouldn't post pictures of cats. There are lots of other places where those things can be posted.
It doesn't matter what the rule is - Phil makes it, and we decide to either stay and follow the rule, or go someplace else. What's not acceptable is to hear and understand the rule and then fart about. Come on guys, show a bit of dignity.
(2) I use my computer to browse this site. It's a company computer because I'm what you guys would call "a professional". I don't want to have to explain to the IT police at my company how come I have soft porn on my machine. As it happens those guys work for me, but I still don't want soft porn on my machine. This is a * photography * site. I don't want to have to explain to anyone looking over my shoulder that I'm not actually a tosser. I can't KF you on here.
USENET is probably the best place for you to post porn of all descriptions. The other stuff will fit in here just fine.
C
clausiam
Guest
Maybe not relevant but an interesting related topic anyway.
I agree. See my post to another Frances post thread:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?
forum=1005&page=1&message=1292148
Phil is generally very liberal in what he allows to be posted and that's why I don't think anybody should have a problem with the few rules there are. If he did indeed make arbitrary judgements like saying that pictures of cats or pictures taken with camera brand X could not be posted he would still be within his rights but in that place it would probably be the time to "go someplace else".
But what is soft porn and what is an artistic photo including some nudity or containing some kind of sensual/sexual undertones? People have different definitions of that. Again we'll have to go with Phils rules on this and I think he's struck a good balance. If that is too liberal for you to use on an office computer, then don't open the posts that you think may contain nudity. Personally I don't think any of Frances' bikini shots were soft porn and some of them were very nicely done. My problem with them is solely that they are candid recordings of half-naked people who probably did not want to have them on the internet and that they violate the rules that Phil has set.
Claus
Frances52825
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"Slug" Gallery owner of PBASE.COM
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Frances47193
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my gallery.
Frances.
Frances.
So you do not have a problem of people taking candid pictures
for titillation purposes. This is mild compare to what
Frances does and it seems sometimes he has to out do himself.
Then you get the Frances want a be, they have to out do him.
Frances posted once here an animation GIF of a women in a bathsuit
on the beach and her bust was flashing. What did that have to
do with this forum, I did not know.
Al please come up for air!
Bill
That's right is his site.....but the rules are only and for Frances!
That's the problem, I went by his the rules for a few weeks but then he started questioning the links I post to my galleries and a shot like this one!
http://www.pbase.com/image/171128
come on!
Frances.
That's the problem, I went by his the rules for a few weeks but then he started questioning the links I post to my galleries and a shot like this one!
http://www.pbase.com/image/171128
come on!
Frances.
Frances52886
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According to Mr Askey is illigal...but then he goes and shoot this:
Shot By the Web Master...so go figure!
Shot By the Web Master...so go figure!
Frances47193
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so..... here we go again if he wants to have a public site deal with it.
I went by the rules...but I had it, or the rules are for all or nobody.
regards.
Frances.
I went by the rules...but I had it, or the rules are for all or nobody.
regards.
Frances.
Frances52886
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Better than the guy in London ...I hope.
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