Abe Weiss
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Hi everyone, I would like to know if there are people who are using the Cambo Ultima 35 with the new Kodak SLR's? If there is someone I would like to know his experience using it.
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Cambo Ultima 35/Kodak SLR's
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Warren Sarle
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There have been several posts about the Cambo Ultima. The big problem is to find a wideangle lens that will work well with it:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1026&message=12194977
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1026&message=12194977
rainer viertlboeck
Senior Member
slutterhouse reported his experienced in rgalbraight forum with the 1ds2 and the ultima. i would forget to think in it.......
better you buy a schneider 28pc. its the same lense than the 28 digitar, which is the widest you can mount in the ultima.
better you buy a schneider 28pc. its the same lense than the 28 digitar, which is the widest you can mount in the ultima.
Shutterlouse
Leading Member
Yes, I have tried it with the Kodak SLR/c and the Canon 1DsII. Both work quite well...
The problem is indeed with WA lenses. The Schneider 28 is the only wide angle option without stitching. I took that back to the shop as I found its distortion unacceptable. So from now on I will only use this with a max of 35mm wide lens (Mamiya 645 35mm lens or possibly the forthcoming schneider 35mm XL).
I found that its possible to get reasonable but not extreme movements with this camera. Certainly its capable of equal if not better movement than say a TS lens. I would say that its most suited to still life/ studio work and for my kind of work it is much better tethered. I am going to have a go at using it for portraits with extreme low DOF, using front swing and tilt.
I did use it on an architectural shoot, but actually I've pretty much decided that I would stick with the 1DsII, TS lens for exteriors plus the Sigma 20mm and 12-24 for interiors.
The tilt is much more controllable than with a TS lens where there isn't enough flexibility for the narrow DOF work.
For now I am going to put its use for architectural work on the back burner, except where I don't need WA usage. Or for special situations. I am also using the 5x4 standards for my landscape work because it is a nice heavy camera for some of the windier landscapes I am shooting in.
The problem is indeed with WA lenses. The Schneider 28 is the only wide angle option without stitching. I took that back to the shop as I found its distortion unacceptable. So from now on I will only use this with a max of 35mm wide lens (Mamiya 645 35mm lens or possibly the forthcoming schneider 35mm XL).
I found that its possible to get reasonable but not extreme movements with this camera. Certainly its capable of equal if not better movement than say a TS lens. I would say that its most suited to still life/ studio work and for my kind of work it is much better tethered. I am going to have a go at using it for portraits with extreme low DOF, using front swing and tilt.
I did use it on an architectural shoot, but actually I've pretty much decided that I would stick with the 1DsII, TS lens for exteriors plus the Sigma 20mm and 12-24 for interiors.
The tilt is much more controllable than with a TS lens where there isn't enough flexibility for the narrow DOF work.
For now I am going to put its use for architectural work on the back burner, except where I don't need WA usage. Or for special situations. I am also using the 5x4 standards for my landscape work because it is a nice heavy camera for some of the windier landscapes I am shooting in.
Abe Weiss
Well-known member
I am thinking of this system in the future with a Kodak DSLR and later upgrade to a Digital back or a Betterlight scanning back. Because I intend to use it for still life shots in studio, and what did you mention the forthcoming Schneider 35mm XL, what will it do better explain it please, and when do you know that is will be available?
Abe
--The problem is indeed with WA lenses. The Schneider 28 is the only
wide angle option without stitching. I took that back to the shop
as I found its distortion unacceptable. So from now on I will only
use this with a max of 35mm wide lens (Mamiya 645 35mm lens or
possibly the forthcoming schneider 35mm XL).
I found that its possible to get reasonable but not extreme
movements with this camera. Certainly its capable of equal if not
better movement than say a TS lens. I would say that its most
suited to still life/ studio work and for my kind of work it is
much better tethered. I am going to have a go at using it for
portraits with extreme low DOF, using front swing and tilt.
I did use it on an architectural shoot, but actually I've pretty
much decided that I would stick with the 1DsII, TS lens for
exteriors plus the Sigma 20mm and 12-24 for interiors.
The tilt is much more controllable than with a TS lens where there
isn't enough flexibility for the narrow DOF work.
For now I am going to put its use for architectural work on the
back burner, except where I don't need WA usage. Or for special
situations. I am also using the 5x4 standards for my landscape work
because it is a nice heavy camera for some of the windier
landscapes I am shooting in.
Abe
Shutterlouse
Leading Member
I have been told that it is a very high quality piece of equipment suitable for architectural work. (The previous version was not so good)
It is listed on sites like http://www.robertwhite.co.uk already. I dont know about availability but it is supposed to be soon.
Abe Weiss
Well-known member
Thanks Shutterlose, why can't I find more poeple using this system?
Are they afraid to let their views be seen?
Abe
Are they afraid to let their views be seen?
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Abe
Hi Abe,
While the Cambo Ultima 35 is hands down the best view camera convertor for Canon or Kodak D-SLRs, with the most comprehensive range of Scheimplug movements, you might like to know that Horseman also manufacture a more modest way of enabling view camera movements for 35mm cameras.
For more info, go to http://www.horseman.com and look for the link to Digital photography, you find the VCC (View Camera convertor) module for 35mm and 6 x 4.5 cameras as well. The price is quite a bit lower than the $4,500 asking price of the Cambo Ultima rig.
The only caveat is that the Horseman VCC is a fixed purpose module that enables Scheimplug optical movements for 35mm cameras, while the Cambo Ultima allows for an upgrade path to full large format usage as you mentioned with scanbacks at a later stage.
Kev
While the Cambo Ultima 35 is hands down the best view camera convertor for Canon or Kodak D-SLRs, with the most comprehensive range of Scheimplug movements, you might like to know that Horseman also manufacture a more modest way of enabling view camera movements for 35mm cameras.
For more info, go to http://www.horseman.com and look for the link to Digital photography, you find the VCC (View Camera convertor) module for 35mm and 6 x 4.5 cameras as well. The price is quite a bit lower than the $4,500 asking price of the Cambo Ultima rig.
The only caveat is that the Horseman VCC is a fixed purpose module that enables Scheimplug optical movements for 35mm cameras, while the Cambo Ultima allows for an upgrade path to full large format usage as you mentioned with scanbacks at a later stage.
Kev
Abe Weiss
Well-known member
I still think that the Cambo Ultima 35 is better, becuase you can upgrade to a 4x5 and to the ultima 23 for digital backs.
It still hard to find poeple who are using it and talk about it, maybe its a secret who knows..
Regards, Abe
Abe
It still hard to find poeple who are using it and talk about it, maybe its a secret who knows..
Regards, Abe
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Abe
Hi,
I have been struggling with all these options for a long time. I wanted something like the Horseman, small, lightweight and with sufficient movement, both for portrait and product, but it had to fit my SLR and my MF, and at the same time it had to take my Hasselblad backs to allow wideangle work on location. With all these options, no manufacturer fit the bill at that time. With Horseman you had to buy different models for SLR and MF, although the basic units were the same. That put me off.
So I build one myself. I used a Mamiya tiltshift convertor. These were designed to do TS macro work with a 645. I took off the front bayonet and glued a Linhof plate in front that accepts the 6x9 lensplates. On the back I switched the Mamiya bayonet for a Nikon one for my SLR. I also made a mount for a Linhof Hassy back adapter and I can fit a Hasselblad 200/2000 series body for MF portraits with selective focus. It cost me around 1500 euros, but I still have a ball every time I use it. With a Zork adapter it also works on my Canon DSLR right now, with a 80 mm Rodenstock enlarger lens, and the product shots are brilliant.
Jepe
I have been struggling with all these options for a long time. I wanted something like the Horseman, small, lightweight and with sufficient movement, both for portrait and product, but it had to fit my SLR and my MF, and at the same time it had to take my Hasselblad backs to allow wideangle work on location. With all these options, no manufacturer fit the bill at that time. With Horseman you had to buy different models for SLR and MF, although the basic units were the same. That put me off.
So I build one myself. I used a Mamiya tiltshift convertor. These were designed to do TS macro work with a 645. I took off the front bayonet and glued a Linhof plate in front that accepts the 6x9 lensplates. On the back I switched the Mamiya bayonet for a Nikon one for my SLR. I also made a mount for a Linhof Hassy back adapter and I can fit a Hasselblad 200/2000 series body for MF portraits with selective focus. It cost me around 1500 euros, but I still have a ball every time I use it. With a Zork adapter it also works on my Canon DSLR right now, with a 80 mm Rodenstock enlarger lens, and the product shots are brilliant.
Jepe
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Ranjan
Guest
I too am thinking of DIY route, do you have any sample image of thye setup & the shots taken of product with it, can you share some?
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http://www.photosig.com/go/users/view?id=11993
Abe Weiss
Well-known member
Do you have samples of your own build view Camera? And some sample images of what you have taken with it.
Thanks
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James Bemus117738
Active member
I doubt the Cambo or Horseman setups are a good idea with the Kodak 14MP imager cameras.
The people I have talked to that have tried them (that' s 2 people) have not been able to get the lens optimizaion sorted out. The camera cannot read the lenses, and once you tilt the lens it would really mess with the lens optimizaion.
The people I have talked to that have tried them (that' s 2 people) have not been able to get the lens optimizaion sorted out. The camera cannot read the lenses, and once you tilt the lens it would really mess with the lens optimizaion.
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