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Pbase or Smugmug ??
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UG -- I went to my PBase home tonight to post a couple of pictures over in the Canon SLR Lens forum and more missing images! I went through this TWICE in December and January -- what happened this time???
It's really very annoying, and frankly it looks unprofessional to customers. I think I'm moving to Smugmug after this last screw up.
(See profile for equipment I own -- questions welcome.)
It's really very annoying, and frankly it looks unprofessional to customers. I think I'm moving to Smugmug after this last screw up.
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(See profile for equipment I own -- questions welcome.)
We have had a smugmug site set up only since mid-January. But I am been nothing but impressed with their tech support, helpfulness with issues, and quality of service. Only one have I gone to do something and when visiting my site saw my pictures all blanked with a message - server maintenance ongoing - or something to that effect. Five minutes later it was back to normal.
The site is very easy to manage. I have the mid-priced account. So we can create subcategories and get as innovative with the HTML as we have time for. The upload of pics is easy.
You have to ask yourself what are your objectives?
In our case we wanted to make it easy to share shots with our son who is stationed remotely with the US Marines, my parents who live on the Gulf Coast, and our daughter who lives several hours away. They complain about the loss of connectivity - visually - with whats happening at home.
Second we want another off-site storage. With UNLIMITED storage - only a reasonable bandwidth limit - this was a great feature for us. As Toni, one of the owners responded - if you have 500 gigs worth of pics - bring 'em on.
You can block galleries to be private if you like.
Its a family owned business, who are also into photography.
We ordered a few test prints to look at their quality - they were excellent. They also have very reasonable trinkets - coffeemugs, mouse pads, shirts, etc that family and friends might want with those glowing grandbaby pics.
The referral system seems to work nicely. 90+ percent of the people who start with smugmug stay with them. That's incredible reterntion. They had to be doing something right - although granted it can be a pain to mover 300 gig's of pictures - lol.
Again, some of these features were on other sites, but not all. We spent the better part of a month looking into various sites. Some of the sites were less than prompt in responding to email questions. The final thing that pushed us over the edge was that on top of PC Mag's editors choice, they got Maximum PC mag's top award in December. Granted neither mag looked at all sites, or the same sites, but that was the final thing that caused us to select smugmug.
Again - it depends on what your use of the site is for. If you are anticipating more than 66,000 (the mid-priced package band width) views of your pics a month - pbase or others might be a better choise. The highest level package ups that quite a bit for pros - but its $100 a year. With referral credits, you might be able to reduce that.
Hope this helps.
Rich
Happy 20D/10D/300D Owner
http://www.stickfarm.smugmug.com
The site is very easy to manage. I have the mid-priced account. So we can create subcategories and get as innovative with the HTML as we have time for. The upload of pics is easy.
You have to ask yourself what are your objectives?
In our case we wanted to make it easy to share shots with our son who is stationed remotely with the US Marines, my parents who live on the Gulf Coast, and our daughter who lives several hours away. They complain about the loss of connectivity - visually - with whats happening at home.
Second we want another off-site storage. With UNLIMITED storage - only a reasonable bandwidth limit - this was a great feature for us. As Toni, one of the owners responded - if you have 500 gigs worth of pics - bring 'em on.
You can block galleries to be private if you like.
Its a family owned business, who are also into photography.
We ordered a few test prints to look at their quality - they were excellent. They also have very reasonable trinkets - coffeemugs, mouse pads, shirts, etc that family and friends might want with those glowing grandbaby pics.
The referral system seems to work nicely. 90+ percent of the people who start with smugmug stay with them. That's incredible reterntion. They had to be doing something right - although granted it can be a pain to mover 300 gig's of pictures - lol.
Again, some of these features were on other sites, but not all. We spent the better part of a month looking into various sites. Some of the sites were less than prompt in responding to email questions. The final thing that pushed us over the edge was that on top of PC Mag's editors choice, they got Maximum PC mag's top award in December. Granted neither mag looked at all sites, or the same sites, but that was the final thing that caused us to select smugmug.
Again - it depends on what your use of the site is for. If you are anticipating more than 66,000 (the mid-priced package band width) views of your pics a month - pbase or others might be a better choise. The highest level package ups that quite a bit for pros - but its $100 a year. With referral credits, you might be able to reduce that.
Hope this helps.
Rich
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Happy 20D/10D/300D Owner
http://www.stickfarm.smugmug.com
Tom Buerk
Forum Enthusiast
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1dmkII, 20d, 16-35, 24-70, 70-200 2.8 L IS, 100-400, 24 1.4, 85 1.8, 135 f2, 1.4x II, 580EX, 420EX, STE-2, Canon G6, Tokina 24-200 and a bunch of other stuff.
This search was really difficult, I'll admit:
http://www.smugmugexplorer.com/
(See profile for equipment I own -- questions welcome.)
http://www.smugmugexplorer.com/
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(See profile for equipment I own -- questions welcome.)
Chris MacAskill
Well-known member
The thing is the only formats browsers can display is jpeg or gif, and the only formats the web-connected printers can use (without converting) is jpeg.
So.... we do our best to convert other formats such as tiff and bmp to jpeg when we receive them. We aren't always successful and have to generate error messages now and then because there is so much variation in the way you can create them.
The honest answer is we don't currently support RAW and have no near-term plans to do so. It would be quite an undertaking to manage the conversion of so many different file types. We think programs that run on your desktop can do the conversion much better because you can interact with them, etc.
Sorry I don't have a better answer for you.
Thanks,
Chris
elanel
Leading Member
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Luis Curran
http://www.pbase.com/lcurran
The virtue of the camera is not the power it has to transform the photographer into an artist, but the impulse in him to keep looking.
Brooks Atkinson, 'Once Around the Sun'
onethumb
Active member
Thanks for the vote of confidence, and I hate to correct you, but it's more like every week for new features.
You just might not see them all, but they're there....
Don
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http://onethumb.smugmug.com/
http://emphoto.smugmug.com/
Charlie-G
Forum Enthusiast
I don't see the point, the previous post was only a couple of hours before.
Someone following the thread, sees "New" and wastes their time discovering it was nothing.
Against Forum rules: "Bumping - Deliberately 'bumping' your message back to the top of the forum with no new content."
Your history shows you don't habitually do this, so my guess is you want to have it show up in your "My Theads". There has to be a better way, even if it is to take the time to post a useful remark.
Maybe I'll learn something.
No hard feelings
C
Someone following the thread, sees "New" and wastes their time discovering it was nothing.
Against Forum rules: "Bumping - Deliberately 'bumping' your message back to the top of the forum with no new content."
Your history shows you don't habitually do this, so my guess is you want to have it show up in your "My Theads". There has to be a better way, even if it is to take the time to post a useful remark.
Maybe I'll learn something.
No hard feelings
C
I hope in the near future when the Digital Negative (DNG) designed by ADUBE becomes the standard RAW format from all browser and cameras. Then it will be easier for you and others to accept RAW files direct from camera.
Thanks!
Thanks!
This has been a feature in web browsers for a DECADE now. You don't need to make a silly post (hey, like this one) to "TAG" a thread -- just bookmark it in your browser like I do.
(See profile for equipment I own -- questions welcome.)
--Someone following the thread, sees "New" and wastes their time
discovering it was nothing.
Against Forum rules: "Bumping - Deliberately 'bumping' your message
back to the top of the forum with no new content."
Your history shows you don't habitually do this, so my guess is you
want to have it show up in your "My Theads". There has to be a
better way, even if it is to take the time to post a useful remark.
Maybe I'll learn something.
No hard feelings
C
(See profile for equipment I own -- questions welcome.)
jfriend00
Forum Pro
I'm not defneding the useless bump earlier in the thread, but there is a real need for a feature in dpreview that is not solved by a bookmark and is solved with the useless bump and the fact that that feature is missing is why a lot of people do useless bumps.
Bookmarks only let you get back to a thread later. They don't tell you when there's been activity in the thread. Further, bookmarks accumulate and you have to then delete the ones where the thread has died out. The MyThreads view here at dpreview does a great job at telling you when there's been activity in threads that you participated in.
What we need is a new feature in dpreview that lets you add a thread to your mythreads view without actually participating in it. The feature has existed in news reader software for years. It's sometimes called "watch". It lets you keep track of activity in a thread in the same way that you can if you post in the thread, but it doesn't require you to make a useless post in order to get the benefit.
Here's the idea. You are reading a thread that you decide you'd like to follow. You click on "Watch Thread" and that thread gets added to your My Threads view. No more need for useless bumps of bookmark posts just to keep track of the thread.
That said, I also find it a waste of time to read bump and bookmark postings and wish people wouldn't do it. I was just explaining why a browser bookmark doens't solve the problem.
--John
Bookmarks only let you get back to a thread later. They don't tell you when there's been activity in the thread. Further, bookmarks accumulate and you have to then delete the ones where the thread has died out. The MyThreads view here at dpreview does a great job at telling you when there's been activity in threads that you participated in.
What we need is a new feature in dpreview that lets you add a thread to your mythreads view without actually participating in it. The feature has existed in news reader software for years. It's sometimes called "watch". It lets you keep track of activity in a thread in the same way that you can if you post in the thread, but it doesn't require you to make a useless post in order to get the benefit.
Here's the idea. You are reading a thread that you decide you'd like to follow. You click on "Watch Thread" and that thread gets added to your My Threads view. No more need for useless bumps of bookmark posts just to keep track of the thread.
That said, I also find it a waste of time to read bump and bookmark postings and wish people wouldn't do it. I was just explaining why a browser bookmark doens't solve the problem.
--John
--Someone following the thread, sees "New" and wastes their time
discovering it was nothing.
Against Forum rules: "Bumping - Deliberately 'bumping' your message
back to the top of the forum with no new content."
Your history shows you don't habitually do this, so my guess is you
want to have it show up in your "My Theads". There has to be a
better way, even if it is to take the time to post a useful remark.
Maybe I'll learn something.
No hard feelings
C
(See profile for equipment I own -- questions welcome.)
Vancemac
Leading Member
One of the reasons I like going to my own site so often (even when I have no other reason to) is just to see what new feature has been added THIS week!Thanks for the vote of confidence, and I hate to correct you, but
it's more like every week for new features.
Smug rocks.
V
Image Event sells space according to number of images with image size being limited to 10 MB. I currently have 1700 images on my site and 3 GB of data. There is just a one time cost of $25 for additions of 1500 images. Also, you can upgrade to a file size limit of 50 MB.
You can also upload Word Docs, photoshop files, PDF, and many more file formats.
I've had my account for 15 months now and love it.
You can also upload Word Docs, photoshop files, PDF, and many more file formats.
I've had my account for 15 months now and love it.
Lewis Keim
Well-known member
Charlie-G
Forum Enthusiast
Who knows how to reach Phil?
I'd use a "Watch" feature quite a bt.
Thanks for the clear exposition of the problem.
I'd also like a way of saving an entire thread to disk, preferably as a text file that could be editied, including embedded pics. One can do it now, but it is message-by message tediousness. (I know the pics aren't really embedded). I suppose if folks post pics, they know they may be downloaded for personal reference.
Any other use would be unethical.
Think we are going off-topic here - need to start over in Open Talk.
C
I'd use a "Watch" feature quite a bt.
Thanks for the clear exposition of the problem.
I'd also like a way of saving an entire thread to disk, preferably as a text file that could be editied, including embedded pics. One can do it now, but it is message-by message tediousness. (I know the pics aren't really embedded). I suppose if folks post pics, they know they may be downloaded for personal reference.
Any other use would be unethical.
Think we are going off-topic here - need to start over in Open Talk.
C
jfriend00
Forum Pro
I started a new thread in open talk http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1018&message=12727921 . I'm hoping to get lots of replies to that thread supporting the "Watch Thread" idea. If we got that thread into the hot list of active threads, it might even catch Phil's eye.
I also submitted the idea via the Feedback form: http://www.dpreview.com/misc/feedback.asp .
--John
I also submitted the idea via the Feedback form: http://www.dpreview.com/misc/feedback.asp .
--John
Armand Hirt
Leading Member
Well, some people, like myself, care more for the quality of the hosting interface and the ability for linking directly. I think PBase is excellent in these respects. As far as service is concerned, I had one day of access problems, and PBase gave me a month of free hosting. I think it is better than fair.
Does that sound like a reasonable, educated opinion? ANY of them, really? People really made a mountain out of a molehill from the period when PBase has switched servers.
- Armand
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