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There's no question that they're fine shots, but I think more credit is due the photographer than the camera. I thought that many of them were a bit overprocessed/over sharpened, but that just might be the preference of the photographer. I see shots every day on this forum that are the equal of those...not mine, for sure, but many other Panasonic shooters can equal or surpass that work.
mikeyw said:
Much as I love my Pani FZ3 I think these stunning results achieved
on the Oly 770 will take some beating !!

http://www.pbase.com/wayne_n/c770_favourites

Any FZ20 results out there to match these ?
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  • Larry
'To the complaint, 'There are no people in these photographs,' I respond, 'There are always two people: the photographer and the viewer.' - Ansel Adams



http://www.pbase.com/snargle/
 
mikeyw said:
Much as I love my Pani FZ3 I think these stunning results achieved
on the Oly 770 will take some beating !!

http://www.pbase.com/wayne_n/c770_favourites

Any FZ20 results out there to match these ?
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I have seen many amazing shots that he has taken posted on the Oly forum. I am absolutely certain that he could get equal or better shots with the fz20. He is an exceptionally gifted photographer.
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Theresa
Constructive criticism always welcome! :)
http://www.pbase.com/theresa_k
http://theresak.smugmug.com/
Panasonic FZ-2O, Oly C-5O6O & FL-4O, PSP Nine

 
He's pretty amazing - I'd love to see what he could do with an FZ20 :-)
Theresa K said:
mikeyw said:
Much as I love my Pani FZ3 I think these stunning results achieved
on the Oly 770 will take some beating !!

http://www.pbase.com/wayne_n/c770_favourites

Any FZ20 results out there to match these ?
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I have seen many amazing shots that he has taken posted on the Oly
forum. I am absolutely certain that he could get equal or better
shots with the fz20. He is an exceptionally gifted photographer.
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Theresa
Constructive criticism always welcome! :)
http://www.pbase.com/theresa_k
http://theresak.smugmug.com/
Panasonic FZ-2O, Oly C-5O6O & FL-4O, PSP Nine

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beauty is in the eye of the beholder.....and I love Wayne's shots.

If you study the exif data and check the comments he has placed you will see that he has done very little PP to the majority of the shots. They come out of the camera that way.
wj
Snargle said:
mikeyw said:
Much as I love my Pani FZ3 I think these stunning results achieved
on the Oly 770 will take some beating !!

http://www.pbase.com/wayne_n/c770_favourites

Any FZ20 results out there to match these ?
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  • Larry
'To the complaint, 'There are no people in these photographs,' I
respond, 'There are always two people: the photographer and the
viewer.' - Ansel Adams



http://www.pbase.com/snargle/
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Oly C-770, Pano FZ20, MinoltaXg
 
Yep, Phil is a master at telling a story with a simple image. He does tend to downplay the importance of the hardware, though. I think he could produce fantastic photos with a Kodak Instamatic. It's the man (or woman) behind the lens that makes a great photograph.
tylerken said:
You may want to sit down, fasten your seat belt and make sure your
seatback table is in the upright position before clicking this
link...

http://www.pbase.com/pnd1

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Ken
Panasonic DMC FZ20, Wired Remote, Sunpak 383
Raynox DCR-6600, DCR-1540, Oly C-210, TCON 14B
http://ken.smugmug.com/
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  • Larry
'To the complaint, 'There are no people in these photographs,' I respond, 'There are always two people: the photographer and the viewer.' - Ansel Adams



http://www.pbase.com/snargle/
 
I discovered Wayne's work several months ago after he had left a comment on my pbase site. I too came back here to start a thread on the quality of the Oly 770 he was using.

I have since realized it is not so much the camera but this singular photographer that is able to achieve these results.
He visits this forum occasionally and comments on various shots as WayneN.
I just noticed that he left a comment on my Dawn On the Rio Grande shots.

Getting praise from someone of this caliber is much more satisfying then winning any of the multiple potd's that abound on the internet.
Harlan
mikeyw said:
Much as I love my Pani FZ3 I think these stunning results achieved
on the Oly 770 will take some beating !!

http://www.pbase.com/wayne_n/c770_favourites

Any FZ20 results out there to match these ?
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http://www.pbase.com/harlanjs
 
I agree that it's the ability of the photographer, much more than the hardware, but I do wonder if either camera is "more in his way" or does more to facilitate his getting the shots he wants.

I've never used a C770, so I can't say. I do have a friend who has a C765, and one advantage he has is the gain up of his LCD in low-light situations. I hate it when I want to take a shot, and can't even focus or frame the shot, even though I have a great external flash (the 383).

But I imagine he could find things he prefers about my FZ10, I just haven't let him use it yet.
 
Not the camera. On a technical basis, any camera could have taken those. They are great because of the photographer.

Don't believe me? Those are less than 0.3 MP images you are viewing on that site. You can't tell the quality of a 4MP and up camera by looking at 0.3 MP comparisions. A FZ1 could have take those pictures and you would 't know the difference - my 2100 Uzi could have easily have take those pictures. Don't worry about the equipment, go out and take pictures!
 
tko said:
Not the camera. On a technical basis, any camera could have taken
those. They are great because of the photographer.

Don't believe me? Those are less than 0.3 MP images you are viewing
on that site. You can't tell the quality of a 4MP and up camera by
looking at 0.3 MP comparisions. A FZ1 could have take those
pictures and you would 't know the difference - my 2100 Uzi could
have easily have take those pictures. Don't worry about the
equipment, go out and take pictures!
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Best Wishes Billy
FZs 1v2 10 and a folly 20

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Copyright Rory Martin 2004.
 
A little birdie told me about this thread. I'm a bit embarassed by it to be honest, but I'm thankful and inspired by all of the kind words! Thanks!

I do love the c770 and think it's an awesome camera. I'm rather positive that the FZ20 is awesome as well. Unfortunately there is no perfect camera, but I think that both of these are getting closer. Which one is better depends on one's specific needs I suppose. But I do know that the the FZ20 is capable of delivering stunning results. I see them here in this forum all of the time. And there are characters like Phil Douglas. Or this guy that I pointed out a while back: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1033&message=12465187

As far as my images are concerned, they are mainly just a product of me being COMPLETELY ADDICTED to this hobby (but it's a good addiction, right?); having my camera handy as often as possible; and taking LOTS of shots. You've got to love digital!

Thanks again. And enjoy your Panasonic cameras - they're good ones!

Cheers,

Wayne
http://www.pbase.com/wayne_n

 
Hi Snargle,

As far as processing is concerned, I leave my incamera contrast at -5 and then I might tinker with levels or curves in photoshop. But that would be about it for processing on about 95% of the images. On the other 5%, I might go nuts trying different effects etc.

Although offhand I can't see it, you might be right about the over sharpening. I leave my camera's incamera sharpening at zero, but when I upload my images to pbase, I use a program called Breezebrowser which resizes them and applies some unsharp mask if desired. I'm too lazy to spend much time altering the unsharp mask on a image by image basis, so I just have it set to Radius 1, Amount 150% for all images.

If you don't mind and you have the time, please provide links to some of the images which you feel are overprocessed or oversharpened. I'd prefer to not be overdoing it on either of those two fronts.

As far as everything else you say is concerned, I agree completely!

Thanks,

Wayne
http://www.pbase.com/wayne_n

 
Hey Wayne...the more I look at your shots, the more I think it might be just a pBase thing. Either that or my ancient, out-of-calibration monitor :)

I'll take a look tomorrow with my office computer (assuming the boss isn't around too much...) and let you know if I see anything that looks too far out of whack. I hope you don't take my comments as being too critical..you've got many, many outstanding photos posted there and I'd be thrilled to even do half as well!
Wayne N. said:
Hi Snargle,

As far as processing is concerned, I leave my incamera contrast at
-5 and then I might tinker with levels or curves in photoshop. But
that would be about it for processing on about 95% of the images.
On the other 5%, I might go nuts trying different effects etc.

Although offhand I can't see it, you might be right about the over
sharpening. I leave my camera's incamera sharpening at zero, but
when I upload my images to pbase, I use a program called
Breezebrowser which resizes them and applies some unsharp mask if
desired. I'm too lazy to spend much time altering the unsharp mask
on a image by image basis, so I just have it set to Radius 1,
Amount 150% for all images.

If you don't mind and you have the time, please provide links to
some of the images which you feel are overprocessed or
oversharpened. I'd prefer to not be overdoing it on either of
those two fronts.

As far as everything else you say is concerned, I agree completely!

Thanks,

Wayne
http://www.pbase.com/wayne_n

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  • Larry
'To the complaint, 'There are no people in these photographs,' I respond, 'There are always two people: the photographer and the viewer.' - Ansel Adams



http://www.pbase.com/snargle/
 
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