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I've been using Photoshop LE for some time (since it came with my Epson 1200 Printer. Since the full version of 6.0 is WAY beyond my budget right now, I'm thinking about trying to find someone who is now using version 6.0, still has the full version of 5.5, and would be willing to part with it for appropriate compensation. Later, as I have more discretionary funds, I could upgrade to version 6.0.

Any thoughts on this? If I do find someone, what do you think would be an appropriate price to pay for this older software? Any input would be appreciated. Given the rules of this forum, if someone here does want to part with the older version, drop me a private line at my e-mail address.

Regards, etc.

Stew
 
Stew

the problem with this is that you would have to find somebody who bought a full license 5.5 and a full license 6. I guess this would be rather rare as you would buy an upgrade from 5 to 6. In this case there is no legal 5.5 license anymore.

Mike
Stew said:
I've been using Photoshop LE for some time (since it came with my
Epson 1200 Printer. Since the full version of 6.0 is WAY beyond my
budget right now, I'm thinking about trying to find someone who is
now using version 6.0, still has the full version of 5.5, and would
be willing to part with it for appropriate compensation. Later, as
I have more discretionary funds, I could upgrade to version 6.0.
Any thoughts on this? If I do find someone, what do you think
would be an appropriate price to pay for this older software? Any
input would be appreciated. Given the rules of this forum, if
someone here does want to part with the older version, drop me a
private line at my e-mail address.

Regards, etc.

Stew
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Stew:

What you might investigate is the new software from Adobe called "Photoshop Elements". First of all it is far superior to the LE edition of Photoshop, in terms of amateur useage, and yet extremely powerful. You can but if for $99 or less, and it really is full featured, and extremely powerful. It is NOT in the category of all the other cheap photo touch up software on the market/ I am not a professional photo retoucher, but I have PS 6.0, and rarely use it since I got PS Elements. The reviews on it are sterling, and I know that the majority of us here can use it to do what we need to do...

Tim Kriebel
Stew said:
I've been using Photoshop LE for some time (since it came with my
Epson 1200 Printer. Since the full version of 6.0 is WAY beyond my
budget right now, I'm thinking about trying to find someone who is
now using version 6.0, still has the full version of 5.5, and would
be willing to part with it for appropriate compensation. Later, as
I have more discretionary funds, I could upgrade to version 6.0.
Any thoughts on this? If I do find someone, what do you think
would be an appropriate price to pay for this older software? Any
input would be appreciated. Given the rules of this forum, if
someone here does want to part with the older version, drop me a
private line at my e-mail address.

Regards, etc.

Stew
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Stew,

Tim's right, Elements is a great "in-between" program. It also supports many of the plug-ins such as Test-Strip 3.0. By the way, I saw it in Best Buy yesterday with a $30.00 mail-in rebate!

KRG
Tim Kriebel said:
What you might investigate is the new software from Adobe called
"Photoshop Elements". First of all it is far superior to the LE
edition of Photoshop, in terms of amateur useage, and yet extremely
powerful. You can but if for $99 or less, and it really is full
featured, and extremely powerful. It is NOT in the category of all
the other cheap photo touch up software on the market/ I am not a
professional photo retoucher, but I have PS 6.0, and rarely use it
since I got PS Elements. The reviews on it are sterling, and I
know that the majority of us here can use it to do what we need to
do...

Tim Kriebel
Stew said:
I've been using Photoshop LE for some time (since it came with my
Epson 1200 Printer. Since the full version of 6.0 is WAY beyond my
budget right now, I'm thinking about trying to find someone who is
now using version 6.0, still has the full version of 5.5, and would
be willing to part with it for appropriate compensation. Later, as
I have more discretionary funds, I could upgrade to version 6.0.
Any thoughts on this? If I do find someone, what do you think
would be an appropriate price to pay for this older software? Any
input would be appreciated. Given the rules of this forum, if
someone here does want to part with the older version, drop me a
private line at my e-mail address.

Regards, etc.

Stew
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So what does PS Elements lack that PS 6.0 has? I am tempted to get a copy of Elements, but I am interested in what I would be missing.

-Eric
Tim Kriebel said:
Stew:

What you might investigate is the new software from Adobe called
"Photoshop Elements". First of all it is far superior to the LE
edition of Photoshop, in terms of amateur useage, and yet extremely
powerful. You can but if for $99 or less, and it really is full
featured, and extremely powerful. It is NOT in the category of all
the other cheap photo touch up software on the market/ I am not a
professional photo retoucher, but I have PS 6.0, and rarely use it
since I got PS Elements. The reviews on it are sterling, and I
know that the majority of us here can use it to do what we need to
do...

Tim Kriebel
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I was just wandering around on Adobe's website (www.adobe.com) and found that they are offering a free 30-day trial of Photoshop Elements. I am going to give this a shot to see if it's everything I need without going to PS 6.

-E
Eric Keller said:
So what does PS Elements lack that PS 6.0 has? I am tempted to get
a copy of Elements, but I am interested in what I would be missing.

-Eric
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Eric Keller said:
I was just wandering around on Adobe's website (www.adobe.com) and
found that they are offering a free 30-day trial of Photoshop
Elements. I am going to give this a shot to see if it's everything
I need without going to PS 6.
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I believe that ANY of the Adobe programs are available for 30 day trials, either on the Adobe site, on most product CD-ROMs, or they generally give out a CD-ROM with trial versions of all programs at most shows. But the downloads are rather large. The Photoshop download is 40-50 MB depending on your O/S and the Elements download is 50-60 MB. Fine if you have broadband, but a pain otherwise.

I just received my purchased copy of Elements this morning. I have PS 6.0.1, but it is a LOT of work to use.

Harvey
 
So even after having PS 6 you are going to Elements? Is it that much easier to use that the 'prosumer' person would be better off with Elements regardless of price? Thanks for your input.
Harvey Fishman said:
I believe that ANY of the Adobe programs are available for 30 day
trials, either on the Adobe site, on most product CD-ROMs, or they
generally give out a CD-ROM with trial versions of all programs at
most shows. But the downloads are rather large. The Photoshop
download is 40-50 MB depending on your O/S and the Elements
download is 50-60 MB. Fine if you have broadband, but a pain
otherwise.

I just received my purchased copy of Elements this morning. I have
PS 6.0.1, but it is a LOT of work to use.

Harvey
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Eric,

A lot of PS 6.0 will go to waste unless you are a graphics specialist or you are doing pre-press work. Although I use 6.0, I strongly recommend Elements to my multimedia students. Why? The interface is similar, so using Elements at home will not make it terribly confusing when you encounter 6.0 in another setting, i.e. a classroom. And it's way cheaper - $48.50 at http://www.academicsuperstore.com - if you are eligible for an academic discount. I'm sure some PS purists will disagree with me and that's fine - I'm just relating my experiences.

Joe Hawblitzel
Eric Keller said:
Harvey Fishman said:
I believe that ANY of the Adobe programs are available for 30 day
trials, either on the Adobe site, on most product CD-ROMs, or they
generally give out a CD-ROM with trial versions of all programs at
most shows. But the downloads are rather large. The Photoshop
download is 40-50 MB depending on your O/S and the Elements
download is 50-60 MB. Fine if you have broadband, but a pain
otherwise.

I just received my purchased copy of Elements this morning. I have
PS 6.0.1, but it is a LOT of work to use.

Harvey
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Eric,

I've got to agree with the concensis in this thread. Even though I've used PhotoShop since 2.05, which I got with a scanner in 1993, It was been a bear of a learning curve. I do now use 6.01 because the integrated features in it are far superior to those in 5.5 for the pro work that I do. From every thing that I've heard, Elements is the best game in town for the "home digital dark-room". Be kind to yourself and your pocket book. Have fun with the latest "realized" digital darkroom software.
gordon
Joe Hawblitzel said:
A lot of PS 6.0 will go to waste unless you are a graphics
specialist or you are doing pre-press work. Although I use 6.0, I
strongly recommend Elements to my multimedia students. Why? The
interface is similar, so using Elements at home will not make it
terribly confusing when you encounter 6.0 in another setting, i.e.
a classroom. And it's way cheaper - $48.50 at
http://www.academicsuperstore.com - if you are eligible for an academic
discount. I'm sure some PS purists will disagree with me and
that's fine - I'm just relating my experiences.

Joe Hawblitzel
Eric Keller said:
Harvey Fishman said:
I believe that ANY of the Adobe programs are available for 30 day
trials, either on the Adobe site, on most product CD-ROMs, or they
generally give out a CD-ROM with trial versions of all programs at
most shows. But the downloads are rather large. The Photoshop
download is 40-50 MB depending on your O/S and the Elements
download is 50-60 MB. Fine if you have broadband, but a pain
otherwise.

I just received my purchased copy of Elements this morning. I have
PS 6.0.1, but it is a LOT of work to use.

Harvey
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Hey folks!

Thanks so much for your perspective. I have been really hesitant to look at Photoshop "Elements" for fear it would be another one of those "wanna-be" tools like my old MGI PhotoSuite.

I guess the biggest thing lacking from my Photoshop LE that I wish I could do is .gif animation and an infinite "go-back-to-the-last-change" feature. If elements can do everything LE can do but also has these functions, then my money is on "Elements"

Now...speaking of software and prices. Has anyone figured out why joe schmoe has to shell out $600+ for version 6.0 and with the wave of a student I.D. you can get it for about $250??? Seems like just registering for a class at some public college would be worth getting the student discount! Ain't fair!

Stew
 
email me. I'll give you a copy of 5.5 for nothing.
Stew said:
I've been using Photoshop LE for some time (since it came with my
Epson 1200 Printer. Since the full version of 6.0 is WAY beyond my
budget right now, I'm thinking about trying to find someone who is
now using version 6.0, still has the full version of 5.5, and would
be willing to part with it for appropriate compensation. Later, as
I have more discretionary funds, I could upgrade to version 6.0.
Any thoughts on this? If I do find someone, what do you think
would be an appropriate price to pay for this older software? Any
input would be appreciated. Given the rules of this forum, if
someone here does want to part with the older version, drop me a
private line at my e-mail address.

Regards, etc.

Stew
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Stew

I had to laugh at your Joe schmoe comment.

I registered for a course from New York Institue Of Photography
in digital photography. It cost me $725 and comes with
Photoshop 6.0.

So for $125 more I get a three year course in digital photography.

Go fiqure.

Bill
Stew said:
Hey folks!

Thanks so much for your perspective. I have been really hesitant
to look at Photoshop "Elements" for fear it would be another one of
those "wanna-be" tools like my old MGI PhotoSuite.
I guess the biggest thing lacking from my Photoshop LE that I wish
I could do is .gif animation and an infinite
"go-back-to-the-last-change" feature. If elements can do everything
LE can do but also has these functions, then my money is on
"Elements"
Now...speaking of software and prices. Has anyone figured out why
joe schmoe has to shell out $600+ for version 6.0 and with the wave
of a student I.D. you can get it for about $250??? Seems like just
registering for a class at some public college would be worth
getting the student discount! Ain't fair!

Stew
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All I can figure out is that they either think little of their instructors OR Adobe gave them one whopping promotional deal. Either way... looks like you've got a pretty good deal there IF it's a really good course (not one of those two-hour one-nighters). Makes me wish I were in New York (but only briefly). :> )
William C said:
I had to laugh at your Joe schmoe comment.

I registered for a course from New York Institue Of Photography
in digital photography. It cost me $725 and comes with
Photoshop 6.0.

So for $125 more I get a three year course in digital photography.

Go fiqure.

Bill
Stew said:
Hey folks!

Thanks so much for your perspective. I have been really hesitant
to look at Photoshop "Elements" for fear it would be another one of
those "wanna-be" tools like my old MGI PhotoSuite.
I guess the biggest thing lacking from my Photoshop LE that I wish
I could do is .gif animation and an infinite
"go-back-to-the-last-change" feature. If elements can do everything
LE can do but also has these functions, then my money is on
"Elements"
Now...speaking of software and prices. Has anyone figured out why
joe schmoe has to shell out $600+ for version 6.0 and with the wave
of a student I.D. you can get it for about $250??? Seems like just
registering for a class at some public college would be worth
getting the student discount! Ain't fair!

Stew
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Has anyone figured out why
Stew44949 said:
joe schmoe has to shell out $600+ for version 6.0 and with the wave
of a student I.D. you can get it for about $250??? Seems like just
registering for a class at some public college would be worth
getting the student discount! Ain't fair!

Stew
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Adobe isn't the only one - Microsoft does it, too. Right now their full version of XP Professional is selling for US $579, while the structurally identical academic version is $189.95. That's a whopping difference. Here's my take: Adobe and Microsoft see educational institutions, teachers and students as a part of their distribution system. Employers are demanding skills in these products and if the prospective employees don't have these skills, or have skills in other software, then eventually the corporations (who are the real cash cows) will lessen their demand. So they are making it easier for people to get training in their products knowing full well they'll get the money back down the road. That's just my guess. And yes, I do buy academic versions (Academic Superstore goes through a complex validation system for each transaction.)

Joe Hawblitzel
 
Does Elements have any noise reduction tools like PS 6? I just got LE with my E10 but would like a bit more than it has to offer but I don't have the $600 for the ' real thing' and reading in this form it seems PS 6 has some good tools for noise reduction. I would probably buy Elements if it has these tools.
LB
gordon said:
I've got to agree with the concensis in this thread. Even though
I've used PhotoShop since 2.05, which I got with a scanner in 1993,
It was been a bear of a learning curve. I do now use 6.01 because
the integrated features in it are far superior to those in 5.5 for
the pro work that I do. From every thing that I've heard, Elements
is the best game in town for the "home digital dark-room". Be kind
to yourself and your pocket book. Have fun with the latest
"realized" digital darkroom software.
gordon
Joe Hawblitzel said:
A lot of PS 6.0 will go to waste unless you are a graphics
specialist or you are doing pre-press work. Although I use 6.0, I
strongly recommend Elements to my multimedia students. Why? The
interface is similar, so using Elements at home will not make it
terribly confusing when you encounter 6.0 in another setting, i.e.
a classroom. And it's way cheaper - $48.50 at
http://www.academicsuperstore.com - if you are eligible for an academic
discount. I'm sure some PS purists will disagree with me and
that's fine - I'm just relating my experiences.

Joe Hawblitzel
Eric Keller said:
Harvey Fishman said:
I believe that ANY of the Adobe programs are available for 30 day
trials, either on the Adobe site, on most product CD-ROMs, or they
generally give out a CD-ROM with trial versions of all programs at
most shows. But the downloads are rather large. The Photoshop
download is 40-50 MB depending on your O/S and the Elements
download is 50-60 MB. Fine if you have broadband, but a pain
otherwise.

I just received my purchased copy of Elements this morning. I have
PS 6.0.1, but it is a LOT of work to use.

Harvey
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You can do very sophisticated NR with LE. See:
http://www.netnet.net/~llueck
LMB said:
gordon said:
I've got to agree with the concensis in this thread. Even though
I've used PhotoShop since 2.05, which I got with a scanner in 1993,
It was been a bear of a learning curve. I do now use 6.01 because
the integrated features in it are far superior to those in 5.5 for
the pro work that I do. From every thing that I've heard, Elements
is the best game in town for the "home digital dark-room". Be kind
to yourself and your pocket book. Have fun with the latest
"realized" digital darkroom software.
gordon
Joe Hawblitzel said:
A lot of PS 6.0 will go to waste unless you are a graphics
specialist or you are doing pre-press work. Although I use 6.0, I
strongly recommend Elements to my multimedia students. Why? The
interface is similar, so using Elements at home will not make it
terribly confusing when you encounter 6.0 in another setting, i.e.
a classroom. And it's way cheaper - $48.50 at
http://www.academicsuperstore.com - if you are eligible for an academic
discount. I'm sure some PS purists will disagree with me and
that's fine - I'm just relating my experiences.

Joe Hawblitzel
Eric Keller said:
Harvey Fishman said:
I believe that ANY of the Adobe programs are available for 30 day
trials, either on the Adobe site, on most product CD-ROMs, or they
generally give out a CD-ROM with trial versions of all programs at
most shows. But the downloads are rather large. The Photoshop
download is 40-50 MB depending on your O/S and the Elements
download is 50-60 MB. Fine if you have broadband, but a pain
otherwise.

I just received my purchased copy of Elements this morning. I have
PS 6.0.1, but it is a LOT of work to use.

Harvey
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Larry,

there is a problem with the link. I get a 'page can not be found' window. I typed in http://www.netnet.net and got an ISP's home page.
LB
larry said:
LMB said:
gordon said:
I've got to agree with the concensis in this thread. Even though
I've used PhotoShop since 2.05, which I got with a scanner in 1993,
It was been a bear of a learning curve. I do now use 6.01 because
the integrated features in it are far superior to those in 5.5 for
the pro work that I do. From every thing that I've heard, Elements
is the best game in town for the "home digital dark-room". Be kind
to yourself and your pocket book. Have fun with the latest
"realized" digital darkroom software.
gordon
Joe Hawblitzel said:
A lot of PS 6.0 will go to waste unless you are a graphics
specialist or you are doing pre-press work. Although I use 6.0, I
strongly recommend Elements to my multimedia students. Why? The
interface is similar, so using Elements at home will not make it
terribly confusing when you encounter 6.0 in another setting, i.e.
a classroom. And it's way cheaper - $48.50 at
http://www.academicsuperstore.com - if you are eligible for an academic
discount. I'm sure some PS purists will disagree with me and
that's fine - I'm just relating my experiences.

Joe Hawblitzel
Eric Keller said:
Harvey Fishman said:
I believe that ANY of the Adobe programs are available for 30 day
trials, either on the Adobe site, on most product CD-ROMs, or they
generally give out a CD-ROM with trial versions of all programs at
most shows. But the downloads are rather large. The Photoshop
download is 40-50 MB depending on your O/S and the Elements
download is 50-60 MB. Fine if you have broadband, but a pain
otherwise.

I just received my purchased copy of Elements this morning. I have
PS 6.0.1, but it is a LOT of work to use.

Harvey
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Has anyone taken the NYIP courses, and if so can you comment on their worth? Stew, the deal from adobe is the student discount on Photoshop.

-Eric
Stew said:
All I can figure out is that they either think little of their
instructors OR Adobe gave them one whopping promotional deal.
Either way... looks like you've got a pretty good deal there IF
it's a really good course (not one of those two-hour one-nighters).
Makes me wish I were in New York (but only briefly). :> )
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