D2H or D2Hs for nature and landscape photography; comments? NEED SOME HELP, PLEASE!

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I guess I'll preface my post by saying that I've zero interest in buying a D2X, and I'm not asking for any info on any other camera but the D2H or D2Hs other than to provide context. I'm not trying to be rude, just that after spending 18 hours using the search function to no avail, I would just like the questions below answered by those who would know. Again, no offense meant.

I am a "pro amateur, measurebator scale #5." I have 2 Mamiya 35mm 32B's with over 10K rolls thru them, a Mamiya 645 Pro TL, a Nikon F5, and a Nikon F100. The F100 is, in my opinion only, the premiere 35mm camera ever sold under a thousand bucks. (US$)

I like my equipment to be built like a brick s* thouse. This means no plastic bodies. I admit that the D70 is a great digital camera, probably the best bang for the $, and if it was in the magnesium alloy body of my F100, I would not be asking the questions below. But the first time it falls 30 feet while hanging off the side of a cliff face, it will be junk. I dropped my F100 70 feet once. Works great and the finish didn't even get knackered. Broke the 17-35 lens, tho'. That body is a quality piece of equipment.

Here goes:

1. I'm not into megapixel envy. I take a lot of photos of birds, desert, etc., as well as black and whites. Will my photos be razor-sharp at up to-say- 11X14 and pretty doggone good at 20 X 30? Or will they be soft? I'm concerned about how they will print, not how they will look on a web page. This is my biggest concern. Please help me with this one. This one is the biggie.

2. How is the matrix metering when compared to the D70 or the D2X?

3. TTL flash metering? Any problems? How about when used with a non-digital flash like the MB-29s macro ring flash?

4. How is the camera built? Solid? Awkward? Menus and displays logical?

5. Veiwfinder performance? Clear? Accurate framing?

6. Imaging algoritm performance? Moire? Noise? Artifacts?

7. Overall non-sports resolution and quality?

8. If you have it and like it, please tell me why. If you despise it, again, why?

Thanks. All comments accepted. No flames from me.

Kev
 
BTW, the reason I don't want the D2X is because it costs too #$!!& ^ much.

Kev
 
I don't know anyone who has seen any images from the D2hs, so there is no way to compare the two cameras. I am currently waiting to see samples from the D2hs for comparison aginst the D2h so that I can make the same decision as to which one is correct for me.. I am not a pro but want a pro body to shoot images of my children participating in sports.

Pete
I guess I'll preface my post by saying that I've zero interest in
buying a D2X, and I'm not asking for any info on any other camera
but the D2H or D2Hs other than to provide context. I'm not trying
to be rude, just that after spending 18 hours using the search
function to no avail, I would just like the questions below
answered by those who would know. Again, no offense meant.

I am a "pro amateur, measurebator scale #5." I have 2 Mamiya 35mm
32B's with over 10K rolls thru them, a Mamiya 645 Pro TL, a Nikon
F5, and a Nikon F100. The F100 is, in my opinion only, the
premiere 35mm camera ever sold under a thousand bucks. (US$)

I like my equipment to be built like a brick s* thouse. This means
no plastic bodies. I admit that the D70 is a great digital camera,
probably the best bang for the $, and if it was in the magnesium
alloy body of my F100, I would not be asking the questions below.
But the first time it falls 30 feet while hanging off the side of a
cliff face, it will be junk. I dropped my F100 70 feet once. Works
great and the finish didn't even get knackered. Broke the 17-35
lens, tho'. That body is a quality piece of equipment.


Here goes:

1. I'm not into megapixel envy. I take a lot of photos of birds,
desert, etc., as well as black and whites. Will my photos be
razor-sharp at up to-say- 11X14 and pretty doggone good at 20 X 30?
Or will they be soft? I'm concerned about how they will print, not
how they will look on a web page. This is my biggest concern.
Please help me with this one. This one is the biggie.

2. How is the matrix metering when compared to the D70 or the D2X?

3. TTL flash metering? Any problems? How about when used with a
non-digital flash like the MB-29s macro ring flash?

4. How is the camera built? Solid? Awkward? Menus and displays
logical?

5. Veiwfinder performance? Clear? Accurate framing?

6. Imaging algoritm performance? Moire? Noise? Artifacts?

7. Overall non-sports resolution and quality?

8. If you have it and like it, please tell me why. If you despise
it, again, why?

Thanks. All comments accepted. No flames from me.

Kev
 
May be you should read this review:

http://www.naturfotograf.com/D2H_rev00.html
I guess I'll preface my post by saying that I've zero interest in
buying a D2X, and I'm not asking for any info on any other camera
but the D2H or D2Hs other than to provide context. I'm not trying
to be rude, just that after spending 18 hours using the search
function to no avail, I would just like the questions below
answered by those who would know. Again, no offense meant.

I am a "pro amateur, measurebator scale #5." I have 2 Mamiya 35mm
32B's with over 10K rolls thru them, a Mamiya 645 Pro TL, a Nikon
F5, and a Nikon F100. The F100 is, in my opinion only, the
premiere 35mm camera ever sold under a thousand bucks. (US$)

I like my equipment to be built like a brick s* thouse. This means
no plastic bodies. I admit that the D70 is a great digital camera,
probably the best bang for the $, and if it was in the magnesium
alloy body of my F100, I would not be asking the questions below.
But the first time it falls 30 feet while hanging off the side of a
cliff face, it will be junk. I dropped my F100 70 feet once. Works
great and the finish didn't even get knackered. Broke the 17-35
lens, tho'. That body is a quality piece of equipment.


Here goes:

1. I'm not into megapixel envy. I take a lot of photos of birds,
desert, etc., as well as black and whites. Will my photos be
razor-sharp at up to-say- 11X14 and pretty doggone good at 20 X 30?
Or will they be soft? I'm concerned about how they will print, not
how they will look on a web page. This is my biggest concern.
Please help me with this one. This one is the biggie.

2. How is the matrix metering when compared to the D70 or the D2X?

3. TTL flash metering? Any problems? How about when used with a
non-digital flash like the MB-29s macro ring flash?

4. How is the camera built? Solid? Awkward? Menus and displays
logical?

5. Veiwfinder performance? Clear? Accurate framing?

6. Imaging algoritm performance? Moire? Noise? Artifacts?

7. Overall non-sports resolution and quality?

8. If you have it and like it, please tell me why. If you despise
it, again, why?

Thanks. All comments accepted. No flames from me.

Kev
 
1. I'm not into megapixel envy. I take a lot of photos of birds,
desert, etc., as well as black and whites. Will my photos be
razor-sharp at up to-say- 11X14 and pretty doggone good at 20 X 30?
Or will they be soft? I'm concerned about how they will print, not
how they will look on a web page. This is my biggest concern.
Please help me with this one. This one is the biggie.
The D2H is razor sharp for 4mp making it look similar to 6mp, but detail-wise once you start going above 11x17 and higher, you're going to hit some limitations compared to higher MP cameras. This camera's forte is speed.

But I'll tell you this...Myself and a couple of other photographers were debating on who got this particular photo printed in a magazine. I couldn't remember if I took the photo or not. The other photographers were commenting that it couldn't be their shot, because the colors and exposure were dead-on and the sharpness was perfect. Later on I found out it was my photo from the D2H! The other photographers I was talking to were Canon shooters who both shot with a 1DmarkII and 1DS. So I think that is saying a lot.
2. How is the matrix metering when compared to the D70 or the D2X?
It's a bit better than than the D70, which is saying a lot because the D70 is actually really good. And I think the D2X/D2Hs uses a newer version.
3. TTL flash metering? Any problems? How about when used with a
non-digital flash like the MB-29s macro ring flash?
No comment on the MB-29 rig, but with the SB-800 it is near bliss perfect.
4. How is the camera built? Solid? Awkward? Menus and displays
logical?
The D2 series body in my opinion is a near perfect photographic machine. Built like a no-holds bar Japanese performance vehicle.
5. Veiwfinder performance? Clear? Accurate framing?
Viewfinder is great, the only think that could make it better is if it was a FF viewfinder.
6. Imaging algoritm performance? Moire? Noise? Artifacts?
This is a touchy subject with D2H users. At first I found the noise qualities unacceptable, but the more I learned the camera and adjusted my post processing techniques to the limitations of the image quality, the better I was able to control it. Still though, I find the D70 high ISO images to be slightly cleaner, but the D2H churns out sharper images. I don't think it is known if the D2Hs improves on noise characteristics, but I would presume so. There is no moire with the D2H.
7. Overall non-sports resolution and quality?
I do PJ work so I think the camera is great in that respect. But I shoot events and parties, and I feel 6mp is more of the sweet spot for that kind of work since you have more cropping room and the ability to print bigger.
8. If you have it and like it, please tell me why. If you despise
it, again, why?
I love my D2H. It is the first camera that I have ever used that erased the limitations of the hardware. When you shoot with the D2H, you are allowed pure expressive freedom. If there is an error in your photos, it is the user that is at fault, not the camera. Unless the D2Hs is $1000 dollars better in overall quality (which I doubt) go buy a D2H for $2000.
Thanks. All comments accepted. No flames from me.
Good luck!

--

http://www.inhousephoto.com
 
This will be to the best of my knowledge since I don't have either body, but I'll answer from an average of what has been said here:

1 - No problem at 11x14, 20x30 has been reported good, but never seen it personally

2 - Same as D70, but as many points as D2x for spot metering

3 - iTTL rules ! Seems there's a ring flash available from Sigma for iTTL shooting

4 - A rock, and ergonomics are A-1

5 - Very bright, 100% image shown

6 - I've seen some noise, most people will just say it's not bad, I tend to agree. D2Hs should have even better performance though. Artifacts will appear at BASIC JPEG setting, otherwise... this is a pro body man !

7 - It was intended for journalism and sports. Can it shoot other stuff ? sure ! you will be able to shoot anything at all. is 4 megapixels enough to make counterfeit money ? nope. Will it be enough for portraits !? BIG TIME. Will it be good for landscapes ? Well, if it's a landscape of buildings, not bad at all, for counting leaves in a tree, no. It will however be sharp enough to count feathers on a well framed birds, for any example, consult just about anyone on this forum :)

8 - Like I said at first, this is an average of the forums opinions, combined with some knowledge from pictures I've seen and technical specs available on any Nikon website. I do own the new DSLR Flagship though. And my guess is these cameras (D2H and D2Hs) do operate the same as the D2x. Therefore, this one I can answer by my own. One word: WOW. Why ? cause it just works, and it works the way YOU want it to work. These are babies and you should never let them leave your sight. Cause you'll probably never be able to replace them if you lose them ! Check out my thread: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=12468561
8. If you have it and like it, please tell me why. If you despise
it, again, why?
 
I have a D70 and D2H so I'll try...
I guess I'll preface my post by saying that I've zero interest in
buying a D2X, and I'm not asking for any info on any other camera
but the D2H or D2Hs other than to provide context. I'm not trying
to be rude, just that after spending 18 hours using the search
function to no avail, I would just like the questions below
answered by those who would know. Again, no offense meant.

I am a "pro amateur, measurebator scale #5." I have 2 Mamiya 35mm
32B's with over 10K rolls thru them, a Mamiya 645 Pro TL, a Nikon
F5, and a Nikon F100. The F100 is, in my opinion only, the
premiere 35mm camera ever sold under a thousand bucks. (US$)

I like my equipment to be built like a brick s* thouse. This means
no plastic bodies. I admit that the D70 is a great digital camera,
probably the best bang for the $, and if it was in the magnesium
alloy body of my F100, I would not be asking the questions below.
But the first time it falls 30 feet while hanging off the side of a
cliff face, it will be junk. I dropped my F100 70 feet once. Works
great and the finish didn't even get knackered. Broke the 17-35
lens, tho'. That body is a quality piece of equipment.
I have not drop tested mine, nor will I for you :-))
Here goes:

1. I'm not into megapixel envy. I take a lot of photos of birds,
desert, etc., as well as black and whites. Will my photos be
razor-sharp at up to-say- 11X14 and pretty doggone good at 20 X 30?
Or will they be soft? I'm concerned about how they will print, not
how they will look on a web page. This is my biggest concern.
Please help me with this one. This one is the biggie.
You need to get some NEF samples and print them out. What is sharp to one guy may not be sharp enough for you.

Email me at nrothschild add @comcast then throw in .com
2. How is the matrix metering when compared to the D70 or the D2X?
As good or better than D70, I think. It is the 1005 segment metering from the F5, I think?
3. TTL flash metering? Any problems? How about when used with a
non-digital flash like the MB-29s macro ring flash?
I have only used it with the SB-800 and it is great.
4. How is the camera built? Solid? Awkward? Menus and displays
logical?
The build quality and control layout, ergos in general are it's strong suit. If you don't like this camera's ergos, nothing will please you.
5. Veiwfinder performance? Clear? Accurate framing?
MUCH better than D70, can't compare to F5 or F100, but probably not quite there due to the smaller sensor.
6. Imaging algoritm performance? Moire? Noise? Artifacts?
I am very happy with the imaging; noise is fine at ISO 400 and below. At 800 you get a little and above that it depends on your taste and pickiness. I mostly shoot ISO 400 and below.
7. Overall non-sports resolution and quality?
Great
8. If you have it and like it, please tell me why. If you despise
it, again, why?
I am very happy with it. I have been shooting a long time but doubt I've run 10K rolls through my film cameras. I am also new to Pro bodies where you have used the F5/F100. Take that into consideration.

If money matters to you (it does or you'd just get a D2X) the D2H is the steal of the century. No one knows what the D2HS will be like.

The "concensus" here is that the D2HS is not worth $3200 or so. I personally think there will be some surprised people but that is just a hunch. I think they might have worked on the noise.... I'm usually wrong on these things!

There are some features that look interesting like the separate RGB histogram readings. I think that will be very useful if you know how to use it. You shoot birds- If you are shooting a red Cardinal, you would want to monitor the red Histo display because it is VERY tough to get red right. Most people blow out the reds because they don't understand the problem. I understand the problem, but it is still a cr@p shoot for me- I'm still learning. Technically the same issue with deep blue, but you don't hear people complaining about it although I occassionally see blown blues in the posts here.

The LCD preview will also be better on the D2HS. DO a search here on rreznick and D2HS; he did a post today or yesterday discussing the diffs.

By the time they are out you may have trouble getting a D2H new; there is a little risk there.

Your biggest issues will be megapixels and noise. Everything else is pretty much a slam dunk. Not saying those are issues, but I don't know you.
Thanks. All comments accepted. No flames from me.

Kev
--
Regards,
Neil
 
I guess I'll preface my post by saying that I've zero interest in
buying a D2X, and I'm not asking for any info on any other camera
but the D2H or D2Hs other than to provide context. I'm not trying
to be rude, just that after spending 18 hours using the search
function to no avail, I would just like the questions below
answered by those who would know. Again, no offense meant.

I am a "pro amateur, measurebator scale #5." I have 2 Mamiya 35mm
32B's with over 10K rolls thru them, a Mamiya 645 Pro TL, a Nikon
F5, and a Nikon F100. The F100 is, in my opinion only, the
premiere 35mm camera ever sold under a thousand bucks. (US$)

I like my equipment to be built like a brick s* thouse. This means
no plastic bodies. I admit that the D70 is a great digital camera,
probably the best bang for the $, and if it was in the magnesium
alloy body of my F100, I would not be asking the questions below.
But the first time it falls 30 feet while hanging off the side of a
cliff face, it will be junk. I dropped my F100 70 feet once. Works
great and the finish didn't even get knackered. Broke the 17-35
lens, tho'. That body is a quality piece of equipment.


Here goes:

1. I'm not into megapixel envy. I take a lot of photos of birds,
desert, etc., as well as black and whites. Will my photos be
razor-sharp at up to-say- 11X14 and pretty doggone good at 20 X 30?
Or will they be soft? I'm concerned about how they will print, not
how they will look on a web page. This is my biggest concern.
Please help me with this one. This one is the biggie.

2. How is the matrix metering when compared to the D70 or the D2X?

3. TTL flash metering? Any problems? How about when used with a
non-digital flash like the MB-29s macro ring flash?

4. How is the camera built? Solid? Awkward? Menus and displays
logical?

5. Veiwfinder performance? Clear? Accurate framing?

6. Imaging algoritm performance? Moire? Noise? Artifacts?

7. Overall non-sports resolution and quality?

8. If you have it and like it, please tell me why. If you despise
it, again, why?

Thanks. All comments accepted. No flames from me.

Kev
 
Marco:

I read your thread you linked to your response. Thanks! I think you like it!

Kev
 
Thanks, Neil. Don't drop test it...

I appreciate the offer of some NEF files, but I've no way to process them. I don't think I can do them in Photochop CS...

Cheers
Kev
 
Hammer...

Check out this thread which I just posted with D2H shots.....
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=12477955
I guess I'll preface my post by saying that I've zero interest in
buying a D2X, and I'm not asking for any info on any other camera
but the D2H or D2Hs other than to provide context. I'm not trying
to be rude, just that after spending 18 hours using the search
function to no avail, I would just like the questions below
answered by those who would know. Again, no offense meant.

I am a "pro amateur, measurebator scale #5." I have 2 Mamiya 35mm
32B's with over 10K rolls thru them, a Mamiya 645 Pro TL, a Nikon
F5, and a Nikon F100. The F100 is, in my opinion only, the
premiere 35mm camera ever sold under a thousand bucks. (US$)

I like my equipment to be built like a brick s* thouse. This means
no plastic bodies. I admit that the D70 is a great digital camera,
probably the best bang for the $, and if it was in the magnesium
alloy body of my F100, I would not be asking the questions below.
But the first time it falls 30 feet while hanging off the side of a
cliff face, it will be junk. I dropped my F100 70 feet once. Works
great and the finish didn't even get knackered. Broke the 17-35
lens, tho'. That body is a quality piece of equipment.


Here goes:

1. I'm not into megapixel envy. I take a lot of photos of birds,
desert, etc., as well as black and whites. Will my photos be
razor-sharp at up to-say- 11X14 and pretty doggone good at 20 X 30?
Or will they be soft? I'm concerned about how they will print, not
how they will look on a web page. This is my biggest concern.
Please help me with this one. This one is the biggie.

2. How is the matrix metering when compared to the D70 or the D2X?

3. TTL flash metering? Any problems? How about when used with a
non-digital flash like the MB-29s macro ring flash?

4. How is the camera built? Solid? Awkward? Menus and displays
logical?

5. Veiwfinder performance? Clear? Accurate framing?

6. Imaging algoritm performance? Moire? Noise? Artifacts?

7. Overall non-sports resolution and quality?

8. If you have it and like it, please tell me why. If you despise
it, again, why?

Thanks. All comments accepted. No flames from me.

Kev
--
Jim Fenton

http://www.pbase.com/soonipi1957
 
You can download ACR from the adobe site and process them. I can also send you highest quality jpgs, but I thought you would rather play with the NEFS.

You can also download a trial of Nikon Capture and play with it for 30 days.

Regards,
Neil
Thanks, Neil. Don't drop test it...

I appreciate the offer of some NEF files, but I've no way to
process them. I don't think I can do them in Photochop CS...

Cheers
Kev
--
Regards,
Neil
 
I think you've heard it from the others, but I should point this out:

Using this body (once you know it) is so easy in the field that it really does become an extension of your mind. Everything is laid out perfectly. The camera disappears. I can't think of a better way to put it.

The metering is totally predictable in nearly all situations, except for those where the subject is many stops brighter or darker than the foreground/background, and is moving. Then, you need to either take a test shot or evaluate the scene carefully, then use EV. The D2Hs has an improved version of the Matrix metering which may help with this, but I have not used it yet so I do not know.

Up to 11x14 is no problem assuming you hit the shot and don't crop much. If you need to crop heavily or print larger, you have to have a very clean shot and upsample. I've done 20x30s, but that is with a very sharp and detailed image and careful upsampling (obviously, if you're printing to canvas or watercolor, it's easier to work with the 4MP image at 20x30).

Don't drop the camera 70 feet. You'll be very annoyed. Anything over 62.375 feet and it's toast.

The viewfinder is large, bright and accurate. The flash system works very well (iTTL is quite predictable).

I'd say that at $2000 or less, this camera is a steal. I bought two at $3000 and felt just fine about that price (although I was a bit annoyed when they dropped it $1200 the day I was going to sell one to partially finance the D2x -- that got a friend a spectacular deal when I dropped my price for a body with a brand new shutter and aperture lever and a complete going-over by Nikon Service by $800).

I kept one for backup and situations where I really don't need large files. The D2 body will keep you smiling, Kev. I promise.

Ron
I guess I'll preface my post by saying that I've zero interest in
buying a D2X, and I'm not asking for any info on any other camera
but the D2H or D2Hs other than to provide context. I'm not trying
to be rude, just that after spending 18 hours using the search
function to no avail, I would just like the questions below
answered by those who would know. Again, no offense meant.

I am a "pro amateur, measurebator scale #5." I have 2 Mamiya 35mm
32B's with over 10K rolls thru them, a Mamiya 645 Pro TL, a Nikon
F5, and a Nikon F100. The F100 is, in my opinion only, the
premiere 35mm camera ever sold under a thousand bucks. (US$)

I like my equipment to be built like a brick s* thouse. This means
no plastic bodies. I admit that the D70 is a great digital camera,
probably the best bang for the $, and if it was in the magnesium
alloy body of my F100, I would not be asking the questions below.
But the first time it falls 30 feet while hanging off the side of a
cliff face, it will be junk. I dropped my F100 70 feet once. Works
great and the finish didn't even get knackered. Broke the 17-35
lens, tho'. That body is a quality piece of equipment.


Here goes:

1. I'm not into megapixel envy. I take a lot of photos of birds,
desert, etc., as well as black and whites. Will my photos be
razor-sharp at up to-say- 11X14 and pretty doggone good at 20 X 30?
Or will they be soft? I'm concerned about how they will print, not
how they will look on a web page. This is my biggest concern.
Please help me with this one. This one is the biggie.

2. How is the matrix metering when compared to the D70 or the D2X?

3. TTL flash metering? Any problems? How about when used with a
non-digital flash like the MB-29s macro ring flash?

4. How is the camera built? Solid? Awkward? Menus and displays
logical?

5. Veiwfinder performance? Clear? Accurate framing?

6. Imaging algoritm performance? Moire? Noise? Artifacts?

7. Overall non-sports resolution and quality?

8. If you have it and like it, please tell me why. If you despise
it, again, why?

Thanks. All comments accepted. No flames from me.

Kev
--
Ron Reznick
http://digital-images.net
http://trapagon.com
 
Hammer...

Check out this thread which I just posted with D2H shots.....
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=12477955
Hey, Jim:

Nice web site! Checked out all of your pics with the D2H on your site. Nicely executed.

Images look great, nice and sharp. One problem that I have is that on my screen, I'm using a 19" BenQ LCD Monitor. It's pretty good, but there is a "texture" that sometimes i can't tell whether it's the image or my monitor. My wife says i'm nucking futz...

Thanks!
Kev
 
Thanks, Ron. When will you review the D2Hs?

BTW, I'm careful to keep gravity-induced accidents to less than 4 feet as a rule... ; )

When you say upscale, is this a software function or program you're using?

Thanks!
Kev
 
At low ISO, the D2h is fantastic-it's usable right up to 800, but at 200, it produces wonderful 12x18 prints-far better than you can get from 35mm film. Since I'm working on my portfolio right now, I've been making prints from a range of cameras (old Canon D30, Nikon D70, D2h, scanned 120 film (Hasselblad) and scanned 4x5). The D2h blows away the D30 by MUCH more than you would expect from the resolution, easily holds its own against the higher-resolution D70 (I can't tell on resolution and I prefer D2h color, not to mention the shots I can only get because I'm using a pro body with weathersealing and fantastic AF), and is not bad by comparison to the film cameras. The two film cameras DO beat the D2h by something pretty significant, but the D2h images are not by any means laughable even in that company. Of course, I can enlarge the 4x5 and the 'blad by MUCH more than I'd ever dare to enlarge a D2h image (I've gone to 16x24 from the D2h, and that's manageable but pretty darned big for the camera.) I'm doing a mixture of nature subjects (from landscape to macro to wildlife), and the D2h is my primary small-format camera. Save the extra $1000 and buy a 12-24 DX or an 80-400 VR (at least those are the two lenses I'm lusting after right now).

-dan
 
Neil:

Go ahead and ship the NEFs to my email at kahuna*nospam*ameritech.net. I'll trial the NikonCapture software. Kinda tired of PhotoChop. Remove the nospam from my email for it to work.

Thanks!
Kev
You can also download a trial of Nikon Capture and play with it for
30 days.

Regards,
Neil
Thanks, Neil. Don't drop test it...

I appreciate the offer of some NEF files, but I've no way to
process them. I don't think I can do them in Photochop CS...

Cheers
Kev
--
Regards,
Neil
 

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