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Baumann Reto
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Sorry for this simple question in this wonderful forum...
But is the handgrip (BG-ED3) for the D30 worth buying?--Reto
But is the handgrip (BG-ED3) for the D30 worth buying?--Reto
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Anthony
Senior Member
simple answer:
Yes!
Yes!
Billy32241
Active member
Very depends, Reto
the battery grip can give you a better control when you taking vertical shoot; also it holds up to 2 batteries. so the life is even longer
However, the balance is another issue if you using the lens lighter in weight.
So far, I use it for more than 4 months now, it's very suit to me
Billy
ycloh
Well-known member
You bet! the vertical grip work well for vertical shot. If you shoot lots of vertical shot this grip will ease you alot.
YC
YC
Jon Stewart
Senior Member
Good Question....I'd like to know as well, cos my hand is getting tired holding it up ;-) in the P position ???
Jonathan
Jonathan
If you have the money to spare, then YES!
Provides P orientation shooting.
Holds two batteries, double the fun.
Very easy to quick to change batteries with it's design.
You can also run on a single battery if needed.
Provides better balance with the giant lenses you may be purchasing later!
Has a large tripod mounting plate.
A little extra protection to the base of the camera.
Provides P orientation shooting.
Holds two batteries, double the fun.
Very easy to quick to change batteries with it's design.
You can also run on a single battery if needed.
Provides better balance with the giant lenses you may be purchasing later!
Has a large tripod mounting plate.
A little extra protection to the base of the camera.
Chunin Martinez
Leading Member
If you are doing a lot of fashion or portrait, then yes. If you want it for the extra battery capacity, no. It adds a lot of weight and bulk to the camera. I used to have a vertical grip for my Minolta 650SI but sold it because I was not using it. And did no buy it for my D30 until recently that I started doing fashion and portrait. It does help a lot.
if you need to save mony and have longer battery life - just put extra battery in your pocket and replace after the first one is dead 
Makes a lot of sense to me. I don't have any use for a big and bulky grip.
Rich
Rich
if you need to save mony and have longer battery life - just put
extra battery in your pocket and replace after the first one is
dead
Bryan29453
Senior Member
Hi Baumann, (hope that is your forename)
Like many things in life this is down to personal preference. Have you got a friend who already has this fitted? Will your friendly dealer let you try it on in the shop?
Negatives:
Another load out of the wallet.
It adds a load to carrying weight
It adds bulk
It appears to attract many looks from passers-by. (or is it me)
Postives:
My little finger was always looking for somewhere to fit, dropping beneath the camera body - It now helps hold the body.
Having used a CP990 before the D30 I had a horror of batteries running out and I used to carry 5 x sets of AA for a days shooting. Yes I did run out and you charge 5 sets each night!!!
With the BP I have 2 batteries OK for over 1000 images per day and the 2 batteries will fully charge in about 2.5 hours.
I find it provides better balance with my 28-135IS and 75-300IS lens attached. Extra weight also helps avoid shake.
It works well for portrait shots.
It feels right.
Some of those who look are quite nice
Bryan
finally - personal preference matters so try first if you can.
Like many things in life this is down to personal preference. Have you got a friend who already has this fitted? Will your friendly dealer let you try it on in the shop?
Negatives:
Another load out of the wallet.
It adds a load to carrying weight
It adds bulk
It appears to attract many looks from passers-by. (or is it me
)Postives:
My little finger was always looking for somewhere to fit, dropping beneath the camera body - It now helps hold the body.
Having used a CP990 before the D30 I had a horror of batteries running out and I used to carry 5 x sets of AA for a days shooting. Yes I did run out and you charge 5 sets each night!!!
With the BP I have 2 batteries OK for over 1000 images per day and the 2 batteries will fully charge in about 2.5 hours.
I find it provides better balance with my 28-135IS and 75-300IS lens attached. Extra weight also helps avoid shake.
It works well for portrait shots.
It feels right.
Some of those who look are quite nice
Bryan
finally - personal preference matters so try first if you can.
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Daniel Lauring
Guest
I have two other EOS cameras, a Elan IIE and a Rebel 2000. Both have vertical grips installed. But, I find the grip less of a benefit on the D30. First, on the non-digitals, the grip allows me to replace the expensive camera batteries with inexpensive, available AA's. Secondly, especially on the Rebel, the grip balance the body and gives more real estate to hold on to. But, the D30 is already heavier than the Elan IIE with the grip, I don't want it any heavier. Also, I find the D30 fits my hands very nicely. I also, don't care for how the D30 utilizes the two batteries in it's grip. Instead of draining one, than the other...it drains them in parallel, meaning you have to put them both through a life shortening battery charge cycle everytime. Instead, I keep an extra battery or two in my pocket and only rotate them when one goes empty. One factor in LiIon battery life is charge cycling. You can increase the life of the cell if you put it through less cycles. By running each battery individually down, you will get more life out of them.
Lastly, the grip for the Rebel 2000 cost all of $20 bucks. The cost of the vertical grip for the D30 to be ridiculous. There is no reason the grip should be more expensive just because the camera is.
Danny
Lastly, the grip for the Rebel 2000 cost all of $20 bucks. The cost of the vertical grip for the D30 to be ridiculous. There is no reason the grip should be more expensive just because the camera is.
Danny
Bryan29453
Senior Member
Hi Danny,
I thought that the D30 actually did use one battery fully then switched over to the other, like oposite to the charger which will charge one before charging the other. Or have other posts on this subject, plus Canon, all been wrong?
I did emphasise "personal choice" I always have the extra bit on the bottom as I find it more readily assists me in holding the camera. Only balance problem bit is, as you say, for a bit of weight on the front you lose a large wedge out the wallet! too large - agreed 100%.
Bryan
I thought that the D30 actually did use one battery fully then switched over to the other, like oposite to the charger which will charge one before charging the other. Or have other posts on this subject, plus Canon, all been wrong?
I did emphasise "personal choice" I always have the extra bit on the bottom as I find it more readily assists me in holding the camera. Only balance problem bit is, as you say, for a bit of weight on the front you lose a large wedge out the wallet! too large - agreed 100%.
Bryan
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Daniel Lauring
Guest
Since I don't have a grip I am going by recollection of what others posted here regarding battery usage with the grip. Here is a sample posting.
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=702735&query=battery+charge+grip
Another issue, I recall, was interference between the grip and some flash brackets...possibly regarding Stroboframes.
Danny
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=702735&query=battery+charge+grip
Another issue, I recall, was interference between the grip and some flash brackets...possibly regarding Stroboframes.
Danny
Andrew Grant
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I had heard that the grip drained on battery first and then the other. I don't think it matters really. Lion batteries are supposed to work better with top up charges as I understand it.
I agree that the D30 grip is overpriced. However, it is probably more substantial than the Rebel's grip. Does the Rebel's grip duplicate all the controls that the D30's does?
I bought the grip to make the camera easier to hold both in landsape and portrait modes. In portrait mode, the duplicate controls are very useful. When I am traveling light, I remove the grip and put my 28/2.8 lens on the camera. I find the camera more awkward to use but very easy to carry.
I agree that the D30 grip is overpriced. However, it is probably more substantial than the Rebel's grip. Does the Rebel's grip duplicate all the controls that the D30's does?
I bought the grip to make the camera easier to hold both in landsape and portrait modes. In portrait mode, the duplicate controls are very useful. When I am traveling light, I remove the grip and put my 28/2.8 lens on the camera. I find the camera more awkward to use but very easy to carry.
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WRONG oh wise one. The D30's battery usage goes as follows. It will use the battery installed on the right hand side (where when you open the flap to put the batteries in it indicates the icon for ONE battery) until it reaches it's warning stage and then Switch over to the second battery installed on the left side which has the icon for 2 batteries in front of it. It NEVER even touches the juice of the second battery until the first is exhausted PERIOD. This was also confirmed by the pro dealer I purchased this camera from, and they not only sell a ton of D30's but rent a bunch as well, so have to know this info. Not to worry. Also, with LiIon batteries it makes NO difference if or when you top them up as far as their life span. NmHi is quite another story.
Jim C.
Senior Member
Baumann,
I would suggest you try it out in person, if at all possible. I have it and love it. The camera has a better balance to me. If you have large hands (as I do) then it's really a no brainer. Besides it looks "cool". Hehe
Jim C.
I would suggest you try it out in person, if at all possible. I have it and love it. The camera has a better balance to me. If you have large hands (as I do) then it's really a no brainer. Besides it looks "cool". Hehe
Jim C.
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Jim Dawson
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When I first got the D30 in November last year I decided that I HAD to have the grip for the second battery. I now find that I certainly don't need it for that, as the battery life is very good and it takes about 5 seconds to change. I also find the extra weight and size with the grip on makes me carry a larger case when I want to carry only the camera and one lens. I find myself leaving it off most of the time and will probably sell it.
The D30 alone fits my hands just fine. It may balance a bit better with my 100-400 IS lens attached, but not much.
I also have the hand strap which I do like when the grip is attached, but it is a pain to remove when you remove the grip.
Jim
The D30 alone fits my hands just fine. It may balance a bit better with my 100-400 IS lens attached, but not much.
I also have the hand strap which I do like when the grip is attached, but it is a pain to remove when you remove the grip.
Jim
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Jim Dawson
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Daniel Lauring
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Apparently not wise enough.
That's what you get when you believe everything that people post here...and that counts double for what I post.Unless the technology has changed, charge cycles are a factor in LiIon life. Basically, two half discharges/recharges, are more destructive then one full discharge/recharge. One suggestion to extend LiIon battery life is to keep a second battery to swap with the first after it is exhausted. That reduces the cycles on the battery. This information came with at least one LiIon battery powered product I purchased and I ran into the same info during web research. Hopefully this information is more accurate than my knowledge of how the D30 grip works.
Jon Stewart
Senior Member
I seem to remember reading that it does actually uses one and then switches to the other, purpose (apart from prolonging battery life) is that you can swap the dead battery out.
I seem to remember reading this on Canons US site!
Anybody else read this?
I dont have one, but I want one cos the hand is getting tired quickly in the portait position!
Best regards
Jonathan
Daniel Lauring wrote:
Instead of draining one, than the
I seem to remember reading this on Canons US site!
Anybody else read this?
I dont have one, but I want one cos the hand is getting tired quickly in the portait position!
Best regards
Jonathan
Daniel Lauring wrote:
Instead of draining one, than the
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