New TCON-30C for C-7070 and C-5060

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Maybe old news, but I haven´t seen it before: Oly has a new Teleconverter TCON-30 C for the 7070 and 5060, magnification 3.0, so these 2 cameras have a max. focal length of 330mm!

6 lenses in 3 groups, Bayonet mount to be used with the adapter CLA-7, color is black,total length is 108mm, diameter 75 mm, weight is 200 grams.

Available in the middle of February for about 200 € (about260 $) and comes with a lens hood.

Wish they would make that thing with a normal thread mount, too; I would buy it right away and my UZI would have a focal length of 1140mm!!

Wonder if there is (or will be) some kind of adapter so this bayonet mount lens could be used on a camera with normal filter threads? Anybody who knows something about such an adapter?

I found this news (if still news) here: scroll down about the half the page and -sorry- only in German. But there is not more information than what I wrote above.
http://www.digitalkamera.de/
René
 
Maybe old news, but I haven´t seen it before: Oly has a new
Teleconverter TCON-30 C for the 7070 and 5060, magnification 3.0,
so these 2 cameras have a max. focal length of 330mm!
6 lenses in 3 groups, Bayonet mount to be used with the adapter
CLA-7, color is black,total length is 108mm, diameter 75 mm,
weight is 200 grams.
Available in the middle of February for about 200 € (about260 $)
and comes with a lens hood.
Wish they would make that thing with a normal thread mount, too; I
would buy it right away and my UZI would have a focal length of
1140mm!!
Wonder if there is (or will be) some kind of adapter so this
bayonet mount lens could be used on a camera with normal filter
threads? Anybody who knows something about such an adapter?
I found this news (if still news) here: scroll down about the half
the page and -sorry- only in German. But there is not more
information than what I wrote above.
http://www.digitalkamera.de/
René
There was a little bit about them in the press release for the 7070. Hopefully the tcon30 will be avaible soon in Australia because I am dieing to get one. I had a 300mm on a Canon SLR, and I loved that.

Shane
http://members.optusnet.com.au/smbooth
Lots of information here...
http://www.pbase.com/otfchallenge/root
 
If there is any objection to these teleconverters is that they render your camera/lens prime lens only. No zooming is possible once these TELE-converters are attached. In particular for C-5060, filter attachment is not possible when any converters are in use. What an inconvenience!

Other concerns are the rather dim aperture for C5060 (4.8 maximum) could easily make any handheld image blurred.

To say that much merely shows that I am also awaiting reviews of this accessory (and also the C5060 replacement: C7070). My whole system of 5060 are very compact and light weight because of the small glass and small sensor. But I do wish C7070 to be faster in "Raw" department. Let's wait for the production model to come up.
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Maybe old news, but I haven´t seen it before: Oly has a new
Teleconverter TCON-30 C for the 7070 and 5060, magnification 3.0,
so these 2 cameras have a max. focal length of 330mm!
6 lenses in 3 groups, Bayonet mount to be used with the adapter
CLA-7, color is black,total length is 108mm, diameter 75 mm,
weight is 200 grams.
Available in the middle of February for about 200 € (about260 $)
and comes with a lens hood.
Wish they would make that thing with a normal thread mount, too; I
would buy it right away and my UZI would have a focal length of
1140mm!!
Wonder if there is (or will be) some kind of adapter so this
bayonet mount lens could be used on a camera with normal filter
threads? Anybody who knows something about such an adapter?
I found this news (if still news) here: scroll down about the half
the page and -sorry- only in German. But there is not more
information than what I wrote above.
http://www.digitalkamera.de/
René
 
If there is any objection to these teleconverters is that they
render your camera/lens prime lens only. No zooming is possible
once these TELE-converters are attached. In particular for C-5060,
filter attachment is not possible when any converters are in use.
What an inconvenience!
"No zooming is possible"(with an attached teleconverter) : that´s not right.

At least not -and I can only speak for this model- my C-2100 UZ. With the TCON-17 attached I can zoom back from full zoom about a third of the way without vignetting, with the TCON-14B it is even a little more, about half of the zoom range.

"Filter attachment is not possible": that only goes for the widely used TCON-17, as it has no filter threads in the front, but a lot of people manage to get a filter attached to it by kind of cutting their own threads into the plastic front of this TCON.

The TCON-14B (I don´t know about the new TCON-30) has 86mm filter threads in front. I always have a UV filter attached to my UZI´s lens and even leave it on (probably stupid but I´m just to lazy to take it off) when I attach the 17 or 14 B or the old A200. And I don´t want to buy the rather expensive 86mm UV- or polarization filter for my 14B.
Other concerns are the rather dim aperture for C5060 (4.8 maximum)
could easily make any handheld image blurred.
With all TCONs you don´t have to change the exposure settings, time and aperture; the UZI can shoot at full zoom with F 3.5 and that doesn´t change if the TCON is attached. Loss-free somehow, don´t know the right English word for this, sorry.
To say that much merely shows that I am also awaiting reviews of
this accessory (and also the C5060 replacement: C7070). My whole
system of 5060 are very compact and light weight because of the
"light weight" - well, I don´t think 200 grams for the new TCON-30 with its factor 3 magnification is to much of extra weight (compared to the 475 grams of the good and heavy 14B).
René
small glass and small sensor. But I do wish C7070 to be faster in
"Raw" department. Let's wait for the production model to come up.
 
Maybe old news, but I haven´t seen it before: Oly has a new
Teleconverter TCON-30 C for the 7070 and 5060, magnification 3.0,
so these 2 cameras have a max. focal length of 330mm!
6 lenses in 3 groups, Bayonet mount to be used with the adapter
CLA-7, color is black,total length is 108mm, diameter 75 mm,
weight is 200 grams.
Available in the middle of February for about 200 € (about260 $)
and comes with a lens hood.
Wish they would make that thing with a normal thread mount, too; I
would buy it right away and my UZI would have a focal length of
1140mm!!
Wonder if there is (or will be) some kind of adapter so this
bayonet mount lens could be used on a camera with normal filter
threads? Anybody who knows something about such an adapter?
I found this news (if still news) here: scroll down about the half
the page and -sorry- only in German. But there is not more
information than what I wrote above.
http://www.digitalkamera.de/
René
sounds good to me... any pictures? what's the lens thread size?
 
New to site! Is the bayonet on the lens (and CLA-7) a standard bayonet, like 50 or 60? If so, would getting a thread to bayonet 50 (or 60) adaptor be a simple solution?

I'd echo you post on the TCON-17 René. Wonderful lens on a wonderful camera.
sounds good to me... any pictures? what's the lens thread size?
no threads on this lens, it got a bayonet mount. A picture (of the
lens) is on the digitalkamera.de site (link in my first post) and
probably on the Oly site, too.
René
 
New to site! Is the bayonet on the lens (and CLA-7) a standard
bayonet, like 50 or 60? If so, would getting a thread to bayonet
50 (or 60) adaptor be a simple solution?
I'd echo you post on the TCON-17 René. Wonderful lens on a
wonderful camera.
sorry, but I don´t have a good answer for you about the bayonet mount of the new TCON-30C. I only passed on what I read about this new lens.

I know bayonet mounts from my old SLR, but I don´t know how these bayonets compare to the new ones today.

But I´m sure there is someone here on this forum who has an answer for you about this.

You mention a thread to bayonet adapter, wish I knew if there is something like that so I could maybe attach the new TCON-30 C to my UZI!?

All the lenses I have for my UZI have the normal thread mount; the A200 49 mm, the TCON-17 55 mm, the TCON-14 B 62 mm, the MCON-40 55mm.
René
 
If there is any objection to these teleconverters is that they
render your camera/lens prime lens only. No zooming is possible
once these TELE-converters are attached. In particular for C-5060,
filter attachment is not possible when any converters are in use.
What an inconvenience!
"No zooming is possible"(with an attached teleconverter) : that´s
not right.
At least not -and I can only speak for this model- my C-2100 UZ.
With the TCON-17 attached I can zoom back from full zoom about a
third of the way without vignetting, with the TCON-14B it is even a
little more, about half of the zoom range.
Yup... the whole point in the 1st place is to get more reach & for the most part, when I'm trying to get out there... I've very rarely ever even tried to back off.... Which is One of the reasons I spit the $40 for the vignette monger C210...
"Filter attachment is not possible": that only goes for the widely
used TCON-17, as it has no filter threads in the front, but a lot
of people manage to get a filter attached to it by kind of cutting
their own threads into the plastic front of this TCON.
The TCON-14B (I don´t know about the new TCON-30) has 86mm filter
threads in front. I always have a UV filter attached to my UZI´s
lens and even leave it on (probably stupid but I´m just to lazy to
take it off) when I attach the 17 or 14 B or the old A200. And I
don´t want to buy the rather expensive 86mm UV- or polarization
filter for my 14B.
Actually Rene', replace that UV with a polorizer & take care to always support the converter & you can use filters. I had a CPL blow out under the weight of the B300... Luckily there's enough room in the zoom to still get vignetteless shots even with the converter farther away from the camera. However, there will be some loss of usable zoom as a result, as well there'd be a tiny bit more without any filter & the narrowest of step rings....

FWIW, a 55mm filter {with glass removed} is almost a perfect fit in the front of the C210 & is easily glued there permenently, requiring the slightest bit of filing of the filterring threads & I think it adds nothing to the vignetting since I think it vignettes due to the tiny rear lens on the C210....
Other concerns are the rather dim aperture for C5060 (4.8 maximum)
could easily make any handheld image blurred.
With all TCONs you don´t have to change the exposure settings, time
and aperture; the UZI can shoot at full zoom with F 3.5 and that
doesn´t change if the TCON is attached. Loss-free somehow, don´t
know the right English word for this, sorry.
The Tcons, unlike the C210, robs very little light & when you back off just a touch with the Uzi zoom, you can still get the F/2.8.. It changes real close to the tightest end & well within the area before vignetting occurs...
To say that much merely shows that I am also awaiting reviews of
this accessory (and also the C5060 replacement: C7070). My whole
system of 5060 are very compact and light weight because of the
"light weight" - well, I don´t think 200 grams for the new TCON-30
with its factor 3 magnification is to much of extra weight
(compared to the 475 grams of the good and heavy 14B).
René
small glass and small sensor. But I do wish C7070 to be faster in
"Raw" department. Let's wait for the production model to come up.
As for my overall take on this new Tcon30.... Olympus is forever the complete idiots.... After the whole B300/Tcon situation of the past 4 or 5 years.Three years ago, prior to the introduction of the Tcon17... People were paying upto & some even more than $300 to hang it on several different brands.. You'd think they'd have put normal threads on it to open it up to a more wide possibility for it to be used on more than just the 7070.... I bet it would work on a lot of non-Olys but not too many of those people will be willing to jump through the bayonet hoops to get it to fit.... I'm not too enthuzed about it working on the Uzi/Ezi either.... I'm guessing it might vignette like the C210 & the added space it'll take between the camera & the lens with a bayonet to thread adapter aint going to help that situation..

I've lost all respect/hope for Oly since they abandoned the Uzi/Ezi & there not too good support for the few glitches related to the 8080 you'd think could be addressed with a decent firmware upgrade.I still might get one if they liquidate them like they did the Uzi & Ezi for half price. They're literally forcing me to look towards a cordless drill manuafacturer for a camera upgrade.... LOL... Not that the Uzi will ever be removed from my bag... It'll always have a place as My 'IR' cam at the very least....

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Yup... the whole point in the 1st place is to get more reach & for
the most part, when I'm trying to get out there... I've very rarely
ever even tried to back off.... Which is One of the reasons I spit
the $40 for the vignette monger C210...
You are right, Ross; you put that TCON on for more reach, so you are going tu use the camera in full zoom, too, most the time. I only remember about 4 or 5 occasions, when I was just to lazy to take it off and therefore tried to zoom back a little (or "out", guess that is what you call it).
Actually Rene', replace that UV with a polorizer & take care to
always support the converter & you can use filters. I had a CPL
blow out under the weight of the B300...
That´s what I did, too, probably with the TCON-17. And not my cheap LPL but the more expensive CPL. Almost impossible to move the front part of it at all now. But I don´t like the idea of a PL on the UZI all the time, I think it is a special filter for special occasions. The UV is a good protection for the UZI lens, the PL maybe just for blue sky shots or to eliminate reflections sometimes.
Luckily there's enough
room in the zoom to still get vignetteless shots even with the
converter farther away from the camera. However, there will be
some loss of usable zoom as a result, as well there'd be a tiny bit
more without any filter & the narrowest of step rings....
FWIW, a 55mm filter {with glass removed} is almost a perfect fit in
the front of the C210 & is easily glued there permenently,
requiring the slightest bit of filing of the filterring threads & I
think it adds nothing to the vignetting since I think it vignettes
due to the tiny rear lens on the C210....
I never bought that C-210, was about to some months ago but then I read about vignetting and decided not to buy.
The Tcons, unlike the C210, robs very little light & when you back
off just a touch with the Uzi zoom, you can still get the F/2.8..
It changes real close to the tightest end & well within the area
before vignetting occurs...
That is very interesting, Ross, I kind of got used to full zoom and only 3.5, never tried to find that point where it changes back to 2.8. But I will try this, sounds good what you say!.
As for my overall take on this new Tcon30.... Olympus is forever
the complete idiots.... After the whole B300/Tcon situation of the
past 4 or 5 years.Three years ago, prior to the introduction of the
Tcon17... People were paying upto & some even more than $300 to
hang it on several different brands.. You'd think they'd have put
normal threads on it to open it up to a more wide possibility for
it to be used on more than just the 7070....
Ross, I don´t think Oly has any interest in people using this new 30 on some old cameras; they probably think: If you want to use this new 3x TCON with the bayonet mount, then please buy one of our bayonet mount cameras.
I bet it would work on
a lot of non-Olys but not too many of those people will be willing
to jump through the bayonet hoops to get it to fit.... I'm not too
enthuzed about it working on the Uzi/Ezi either.... I'm guessing it
might vignette like the C210 & the added space it'll take between
the camera & the lens with a bayonet to thread adapter aint going
to help that situation..
I don´t really know but I don´t think it will vignette like the C-210, unless these bayonet to thread adapters are real thick, never seen one.
I've lost all respect/hope for Oly since they abandoned the Uzi/Ezi
& there not too good support for the few glitches related to the
8080 you'd think could be addressed with a decent firmware
upgrade.I still might get one if they liquidate them like they did
the Uzi & Ezi for half price.
Even then I probably would not, Zoom and IS!
They're literally forcing me to look
towards a cordless drill manuafacturer for a camera upgrade....
Lol, but I don´t know which company sells or produces cordless drills in the US, is it something with P? And c in the end?
LOL... Not that the Uzi will ever be removed from my bag... It'll
always have a place as My 'IR' cam at the very least....
IR - don´t know nothing about that game so far; maybe some day, who knows.
Thanks for the long reply, Ross!
René

PS: Liked your very close dear shots, have to show them to my boss tomorrow, a hunter.
 
Thanks for the reply René!

per Oly, the C-5060 also uses the CLA-7! The C-7070 is to use the CLA-7 to adapt the TC0N-30C.

https://emporium.olympus.com/innards/empproddetails.asp?sku=200897-410

And they do sell adaptors:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=60504&is=REG

At worst, I suppose one could fabricate an adaptor, or pay to have it machined. You's likely still be ahead of a TCON-300, which you'd also have to fabricate parts to fit the UZI.

Sounds like you've got a lot invested in your UZI. Certainly is a sweet camera.
New to site! Is the bayonet on the lens (and CLA-7) a standard
bayonet, like 50 or 60? If so, would getting a thread to bayonet
50 (or 60) adaptor be a simple solution?
I'd echo you post on the TCON-17 René. Wonderful lens on a
wonderful camera.
sorry, but I don´t have a good answer for you about the bayonet
mount of the new TCON-30C. I only passed on what I read about this
new lens.
I know bayonet mounts from my old SLR, but I don´t know how these
bayonets compare to the new ones today.
But I´m sure there is someone here on this forum who has an answer
for you about this.
You mention a thread to bayonet adapter, wish I knew if there is
something like that so I could maybe attach the new TCON-30 C to my
UZI!?

All the lenses I have for my UZI have the normal thread mount; the
A200 49 mm, the TCON-17 55 mm, the TCON-14 B 62 mm, the MCON-40
55mm.
René
 
Thanks for the reply René!
per Oly, the C-5060 also uses the CLA-7! The C-7070 is to use the
CLA-7 to adapt the TC0N-30C.
https://emporium.olympus.com/innards/empproddetails.asp?sku=200897- > 41
And they do sell adaptors:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home? > O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=60504&is=REG
thanks for the link, never seen such an adapter thing before. (Well, never cared for such adapters, cause the UZI has normal 49mm threads. But this new 3 x Oly lens seems to be a good reason to try to find out more about these bayonet - thread adapters).
At worst, I suppose one could fabricate an adaptor, or pay to have
it machined. You's likely still be ahead of a TCON-300, which
you'd also have to fabricate parts to fit the UZI.
Never cared for that TCON-300, too expensive!
Sounds like you've got a lot invested in your UZI.
Not really, most I got used from ebay except the 14B.
Certainly is a sweet camera.
You are absolutely right with this last sentence!
René
 
Well I posted to try and find out if these were standard bayonet sizes. So far no answers. These lenses are not released in US yet, perhaps you'd have better luck auf Deustchland finding one to look at.

Hey, what's an A200? Is it the camera or a lens not heard of?
Thanks for the reply René!
per Oly, the C-5060 also uses the CLA-7! The C-7070 is to use the
CLA-7 to adapt the TC0N-30C.
https://emporium.olympus.com/innards/empproddetails.asp?sku=200897- > 41
And they do sell adaptors:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home? > O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=60504&is=REG
thanks for the link, never seen such an adapter thing before.
(Well, never cared for such adapters, cause the UZI has normal 49mm
threads. But this new 3 x Oly lens seems to be a good reason to try
to find out more about these bayonet - thread adapters).
At worst, I suppose one could fabricate an adaptor, or pay to have
it machined. You's likely still be ahead of a TCON-300, which
you'd also have to fabricate parts to fit the UZI.
Never cared for that TCON-300, too expensive!
Sounds like you've got a lot invested in your UZI.
Not really, most I got used from ebay except the 14B.
Certainly is a sweet camera.
You are absolutely right with this last sentence!
René
 
Hey, what's an A200? Is it the camera or a lens not heard of?
Thanks for the reply René!
per Oly, the C-5060 also uses the CLA-7! The C-7070 is to use the
CLA-7 to adapt the TC0N-30C.
https://emporium.olympus.com/innards/empproddetails.asp?sku=200897- > 41
And they do sell adaptors:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home? > O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=60504&is=REG
thanks for the link, never seen such an adapter thing before.
(Well, never cared for such adapters, cause the UZI has normal 49mm
threads. But this new 3 x Oly lens seems to be a good reason to try
to find out more about these bayonet - thread adapters).
At worst, I suppose one could fabricate an adaptor, or pay to have
it machined. You's likely still be ahead of a TCON-300, which
you'd also have to fabricate parts to fit the UZI.
Never cared for that TCON-300, too expensive!
Sounds like you've got a lot invested in your UZI.
Not really, most I got used from ebay except the 14B.
Certainly is a sweet camera.
You are absolutely right with this last sentence!
René
The mounting is of a Oly standard, not baynet 50 just some stupid thing oly did.
Shane
http://members.optusnet.com.au/smbooth
Lots of information here...
http://www.pbase.com/otfchallenge/root
 
old, discontinued 1.4x or 1.5x tele adapter... Sort of a poormans smaller, lighter Tcon14b..
Hey, what's an A200? Is it the camera or a lens not heard of?
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old, discontinued 1.4x or 1.5x tele adapter... Sort of a poormans
smaller, lighter Tcon14b..
Thanks for answering Tedserv´s question, Ross! Didn´t see it last night before I turned off the computer.

You are right, poorman´s TCON. I only bought it because I got it real cheap on ebay and it has 49 mm filter threads like the UZI.
Very light lens, much shorter than the TCON-17.

BTW, that A-Life-size macro : To much work here yesterday morning, so I forgot about and missed the end of this auction, it was sold for 51 €, about $66. I would have bought it even for € 80, that really made my day!! :-(
René
 
Maybe old news, but I haven´t seen it before: Oly has a new
Teleconverter TCON-30 C for the 7070 and 5060, magnification 3.0,
so these 2 cameras have a max. focal length of 330mm!
6 lenses in 3 groups, Bayonet mount to be used with the adapter
CLA-7, color is black,total length is 108mm, diameter 75 mm,
weight is 200 grams.
Available in the middle of February for about 200 € (about260 $)
and comes with a lens hood.
Wish they would make that thing with a normal thread mount, too; I
would buy it right away and my UZI would have a focal length of
1140mm!!
Wonder if there is (or will be) some kind of adapter so this
bayonet mount lens could be used on a camera with normal filter
threads? Anybody who knows something about such an adapter?
I found this news (if still news) here: scroll down about the half
the page and -sorry- only in German. But there is not more
information than what I wrote above.
http://www.digitalkamera.de/
René
Please check this:

http://warthog.fi/askartelut/sovitteet/kolmenolla.html

chapter 3.a,

there is instructions for "self made" bayonet mount adapter (CLA-7)

Ari
 
I have a 5060 and the one single one thing missing to make it the perfect camera for my needs is more zoom range, but looking at this (TCON-30C at about $260) with no zoom capability, I have to ask if getting a panasonic FZ-5 (36-420mm range with IS) as a second smaller camera wouldn't simply make more sense.

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DIGITAL: Oly C-5060, Minolta S404
SLR: Minolta HTsi plus, Minolta Maxxum 5.
 

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