Firmware update woth it ?

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Has anyone tested an updated G1 with non-Canon flash in manual
mode? Many believed that with 1.0.0.0 it used to work fine, but
fact is most G1's with 1.0.0.1 now only works properly with
non-Canon flashes in Av and Tv modes. Did M mode get fixed? or did
Av and Tv go bezerk as well? or no change? Can any one with a
1.0.0.2 G1 and a non-Canon flash check this out? Many thanks.

P.S. I strongly believe there are modifications Canon doesn't tell
us about. In my opinion it doesn't make any sense to issue an
update to the general public with a tiny fix to a non-issue
"problem" that most users don't even notice.

Michael
My G1 has been updated with 1.0.0.1, and I haven't noticed any changes in manual using a Sunpak 383.

Mark
 
I am getting a little tired of the complaints about the G1 not using 3rd party flashes. Canon from day one said that the camera only worked with Canon EX flahses. I have a nice SunPack flash that is now in my closet gathering dust, but I knew it would when I bought the G1.

Ed
Don't you all trust Canon?
Not any more. Not after buying a camera that has an
incomplete/incorrect implementation of E-TTL, that won't work with
3rd party E-TTL compatible flashes. Not after buying a camera
promoted as being good to use with studio lights, only to find that
it's not really very well suited at all for that purpose.

Lisa
what do you think is wrong with the implementation of e-ttl then?

I ahve also tried mine out in a studi with lights (first time for
me, i hasten to add) had lots of fun, and prodcued some reasonabel
pics for first time in studio (used an external meter sekonic for
this - as you really should in a studio)

Mike
The problem with the E-TTL is part of the overall flash shoe
problem. It doesn't work with 3rd party E-TTL or even plain TTL
flash units. Every other Canon body that offers E-TTL, even the
lowly Rebel will work with, say, Metz E-TTL compatible flashes.

The studio lighting problem is the dark viewfinder. At 1/125 and
f8, the modelling lights have to be turned up to full brightness to
see much of anything.

Lisa
didnt ralise that about 3rd part e-ttl, bit of a nightmare! what
have canon said about this?

as for studio i guess ur using modelling lights on flash units? i
myself was not using strobe and found that this was OK, no viewing
probs

Mike
 
Where did Canon say that? My manual says: "Non-Canon brand flashes may not fire. Please check the manual for your flash." My third party flash fires. But the camera doesn't work properly. And the manual doesn't say anything about that.
I am getting a little tired of the complaints about the G1 not
using 3rd party flashes. Canon from day one said that the camera
only worked with Canon EX flahses. I have a nice SunPack flash
that is now in my closet gathering dust, but I knew it would when I
bought the G1.
 
It will fire (or should) at full strength. The (e)-TTL feature will not work. Therefore, you have to set your camera at the recommended settings according to the flash.
I am getting a little tired of the complaints about the G1 not
using 3rd party flashes. Canon from day one said that the camera
only worked with Canon EX flahses. I have a nice SunPack flash
that is now in my closet gathering dust, but I knew it would when I
bought the G1.
 
Let's not waste more keystrokes explaining, Peter. Despite mountains of explanation many people are still clueless.

This update seems to fix only the LCD problem Canon described, other improvements reported by others seem to be just pure perceptions. However, the new firmware now also disable some non-Canon TTL compatible flashes -- so much for undocumented "fixes". What else can surprise me?

Michael
I am getting a little tired of the complaints about the G1 not
using 3rd party flashes. Canon from day one said that the camera
only worked with Canon EX flahses. I have a nice SunPack flash
that is now in my closet gathering dust, but I knew it would when I
bought the G1.
 
Let's not waste more keystrokes explaining, Peter. Despite
mountains of explanation many people are still clueless.
Nah, after all your explanation, many of us simply don't care. Give it a rest, will ya? Or at least learn another song already.
 
I think everybody got their update wrong. When I plug in the 8Mb card I seems to be able to take thousands of photo in raw mode, than I realised that the pictures were transferred to my computer when I switch it on, no need for any connection wired or wireless. I am on my way to sell away my 1Gb MD and save enough money to go on a world tour with the 8mb CF card. Anyone out there joining me for the tour?.
 
It's a neat little program. But I'm still holding my breath, waiting for longer-term feedback from the braver souls out there.
Hello!

Thank you WHY, that's an interesting procedure...

Would you mind in posting your results after the update?...

I think I'll try to do it this evening... (that's in 10 hours or
so)...

Thanks for the link!
 
I love to use the F8 trick for macro photography.
Flash on Tv set at 1/640. When I do this the
speed will drop to 1/250 and apperture to F8.
In shadow areas outdoors the LCD is very dark
hardly able to frame the subject.
After the upgrade the LCD is very much brighter.
It only gets dark when pointed to a very dark
conner(gain up reach its limit?).My imagining
or is this an improvement?Could someone pls
check by pointing to a dark conner note the
brightness and try again after upgrade.
Seems to be very little new in this firmware update. Is it even
worth the hassle and the risk of something going wrong ?

Dh
 
lmao. maybe my firmware update dint work properly after all ;-)
thank heaven there is a sense of humour amongst all this.

mike
Gotta have some humor or this computer stuff will drive us nuts. Anyway today i played with my camera some and yes I think the update is a good one. The lcd colors changing is gone and i had it in all modes. the auto focus is definately faster and so is the manual. Now if only the darn thing would learn to sleep later heh heh.
 
After upgraded the latest firmware, my non-Canon flash can not be triggered reliably any more. Out of the 10 shots, at least 3 or 4 will not fire. Before the firmware upgrade, my flash was triggered reliably almost every shot. So much for the update. I should have skipped it.

Yu-Lin
This update seems to fix only the LCD problem Canon described,
other improvements reported by others seem to be just pure
perceptions. However, the new firmware now also disable some
non-Canon TTL compatible flashes -- so much for undocumented
"fixes". What else can surprise me?

Michael
I am getting a little tired of the complaints about the G1 not
using 3rd party flashes. Canon from day one said that the camera
only worked with Canon EX flahses. I have a nice SunPack flash
that is now in my closet gathering dust, but I knew it would when I
bought the G1.
 
Sorry to hear about that. Lucky for me I held out from upgrading.

You can try to reinstall version 1.0.0.1 firmware and see if the camera will accept it, if you still have a copy. If not, just ask for it on the forum, I'm sure a few people still keep a copy and can help you out.
After upgraded the latest firmware, my non-Canon flash can not be
triggered reliably any more. Out of the 10 shots, at least 3 or 4
will not fire. Before the firmware upgrade, my flash was triggered
reliably almost every shot. So much for the update. I should have
skipped it.

Yu-Lin
 
Let's not waste more keystrokes explaining, Peter. Despite
mountains of explanation many people are still clueless.
I keep telling myself that I won't about this any more. I'll be fine for a few days and then I give in to the dark side. :)
 
I love to use the F8 trick for macro photography.
Flash on Tv set at 1/640. When I do this the
speed will drop to 1/250 and apperture to F8.
In shadow areas outdoors the LCD is very dark
hardly able to frame the subject.
After the upgrade the LCD is very much brighter.
It only gets dark when pointed to a very dark
conner(gain up reach its limit?).My imagining
or is this an improvement?Could someone pls
check by pointing to a dark conner note the
brightness and try again after upgrade.
Isn't this the ONE official improvement of the new firmware ! LOL

Dh
 
I doubt it will work. The update program checks the current version before it does the firmware update (it did tell me what version I had before proceeding with the update). I suspect that the firmware detects a non-Canon flash and randomly disable the triggering on purpose!!! How else could be explained that it only works (or not work) randomly??
You can try to reinstall version 1.0.0.1 firmware and see if the
camera will accept it, if you still have a copy. If not, just ask
for it on the forum, I'm sure a few people still keep a copy and
can help you out.
After upgraded the latest firmware, my non-Canon flash can not be
triggered reliably any more. Out of the 10 shots, at least 3 or 4
will not fire. Before the firmware upgrade, my flash was triggered
reliably almost every shot. So much for the update. I should have
skipped it.

Yu-Lin
 
I doubt it will work. The update program checks the current
version before it does the firmware update (it did tell me what
version I had before proceeding with the update). I suspect that
the firmware detects a non-Canon flash and randomly disable the
triggering on purpose!!! How else could be explained that it only
works (or not work) randomly??
Hey Yu-Lin

what flash do you have? I have a Metz 32MZ-3 it sometimes doesnot fire with the old firmware too! (1 out of ten) I use second curtain on this with improved results picturewise. But this might be the reason for not firing?

After I read that the Canon Flash allways uses aperture wide open, I hesitate buying it. I like the broad DOF on the pictures. So far I could do pretty well with the Metz (Fstop 4 usually), it would be a great loss to lose it!

Regards
Georg
 
It seems that since I made the firmware update, my camera is slowly sprouting everywhere. I think it is morphing into a D30! What will Canon think of next!
Seems to be very little new in this firmware update. Is it even
worth the hassle and the risk of something going wrong ?

Dh
 
Maybe you have a different definition of "day one."

When Canon first showed the camera at Photokina it was shown coupled to a studio system. Phil has photos of it, right here on DPreview. Just look up his shots from Photokina 2000 in Cologne.
I am getting a little tired of the complaints about the G1 not
using 3rd party flashes. Canon from day one said that the camera
only worked with Canon EX flahses. I have a nice SunPack flash
that is now in my closet gathering dust, but I knew it would when I
bought the G1.

Ed
 

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