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Purchased an S75 last week (and an Epson 890 Photoprinter).

I really was excited to get a nice zoom camera with so many manual functions. I got the S75 after a lot of reading & research. I got all the accessories available for it (2 128 MB sticks, lens adapter, lens kit, 2 extra batts, external charger, Sony case, etc etc). In other words, I was convinced this would work out !

The acid test came today when I did side by side tests with my older FujiFilm camera (in fact, it's just an MX-2700 !!). I did this because the color of the pictures was bothering me (even before seeing the comments on this board).

Sure, there is somewhat higher resolution with the Sony (as opposed to the 2.3 MP Fuji)..... but the Fuji color conversion is so much better. There is entirely too much RED tone with the Sony (at least on my unit).

I have uploaded a couple of pictures (right from the camera). I printed these on the Epson 890 in 8x10 at 2880 DPI (razor sharp quality), and the Sony just looks too red right from the camera, without any post processing. The bricks around this pool are brown, not reddish !

Also note the skin tone in the picture. Any comments?

My plan is to 'HOLD' until they get it right. Man I need a good dig camera. How is the Epson 3000Z ?

Of course, your mileage may vary.

PS Darn, I wanted this to work out !! Got one of my 128M sticks mail order (not even used), and not sure I can even return it without a steep restocking fee !!!

Files too big to post, so here are the URLs. I will keep them up there for a couple days.

Sony Picture (untouched): http://home1.gte.net/res0ak9f/1TempDsc00129.jpg

FujiFilm comparison shot: http://home1.gte.net/res0ak9f/1TempDscf1344.jpg
 
Greg Shutterbug said:
Purchased an S75 last week (and an Epson 890 Photoprinter).

I really was excited to get a nice zoom camera with so many manual
functions. I got the S75 after a lot of reading & research. I got
all the accessories available for it (2 128 MB sticks, lens
adapter, lens kit, 2 extra batts, external charger, Sony case, etc
etc). In other words, I was convinced this would work out !

The acid test came today when I did side by side tests with my
older FujiFilm camera (in fact, it's just an MX-2700 !!). I did
this because the color of the pictures was bothering me (even
before seeing the comments on this board).

Sure, there is somewhat higher resolution with the Sony (as opposed
to the 2.3 MP Fuji)..... but the Fuji color conversion is so much
better. There is entirely too much RED tone with the Sony (at least
on my unit).
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Greg Shutterbug said:
I have uploaded a couple of pictures (right from the camera). I
printed these on the Epson 890 in 8x10 at 2880 DPI (razor sharp
quality), and the Sony just looks too red right from the camera,
without any post processing. The bricks around this pool are brown,
not reddish !

Also note the skin tone in the picture. Any comments?
My plan is to 'HOLD' until they get it right. Man I need a good dig
camera. How is the Epson 3000Z ?

Of course, your mileage may vary.

PS Darn, I wanted this to work out !! Got one of my 128M sticks
mail order (not even used), and not sure I can even return it
without a steep restocking fee !!!

Files too big to post, so here are the URLs. I will keep them up
there for a couple days.

Sony Picture (untouched):
http://home1.gte.net/res0ak9f/1TempDsc00129.jpg

FujiFilm comparison shot:
http://home1.gte.net/res0ak9f/1TempDscf1344.jpg

Out of curiosity, why did you select the Sony over others....ie., G1, 995, 3040 etc.????
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Sounds like you made a large financial commitment, I assume you researched before leaping. I am digitalless at this juncture, but posted here several days ago seeking feedback on either the S-75 or G1. Had some good input, which I very much appreciated. Looking to buy this week....though which unit is still on the table.....

(BTW, unable to view your Sony sample)

Yellowdogy
 
what white balance set up do u use?
Greg Shutterbug said:
Purchased an S75 last week (and an Epson 890 Photoprinter).

I really was excited to get a nice zoom camera with so many manual
functions. I got the S75 after a lot of reading & research. I got
all the accessories available for it (2 128 MB sticks, lens
adapter, lens kit, 2 extra batts, external charger, Sony case, etc
etc). In other words, I was convinced this would work out !

The acid test came today when I did side by side tests with my
older FujiFilm camera (in fact, it's just an MX-2700 !!). I did
this because the color of the pictures was bothering me (even
before seeing the comments on this board).

Sure, there is somewhat higher resolution with the Sony (as opposed
to the 2.3 MP Fuji)..... but the Fuji color conversion is so much
better. There is entirely too much RED tone with the Sony (at least
on my unit).

I have uploaded a couple of pictures (right from the camera). I
printed these on the Epson 890 in 8x10 at 2880 DPI (razor sharp
quality), and the Sony just looks too red right from the camera,
without any post processing. The bricks around this pool are brown,
not reddish !

Also note the skin tone in the picture. Any comments?
My plan is to 'HOLD' until they get it right. Man I need a good dig
camera. How is the Epson 3000Z ?

Of course, your mileage may vary.

PS Darn, I wanted this to work out !! Got one of my 128M sticks
mail order (not even used), and not sure I can even return it
without a steep restocking fee !!!

Files too big to post, so here are the URLs. I will keep them up
there for a couple days.

Sony Picture (untouched):
http://home1.gte.net/res0ak9f/1TempDsc00129.jpg

FujiFilm comparison shot:
http://home1.gte.net/res0ak9f/1TempDscf1344.jpg
Click to expand...
 
Please give us the information about your camera set up. Without it, it's almost impossible to draw any conclusions about the S75 based on your pics. For instance, how did you handle white balance?

Your Sony image is definitely NOT out of camera, as I was unable to read the EXIF header information out of the file. In fact, you have the image posted as a JPG but it's really a BMP file.

I don't think you'll have any trouble selling off your 128MB memory stick (perhaps at a small discount).
 
1. My original Sony upload was corrupted, I reuploaded the Sony picture.

2. The pictures were directly from the cameras, I only added "1temp" to the front of the filename to keep track of them in my server account.
3. Camera settings= Automatic in both cases. No manual preset.

Does anyone have comments about the skintone or colors in general? I thought the Sony was kindof washed out and the brown bricks around the pool appear to have a red tint, as does the subject's face (the subject actually has a nice tan, not a sunburn!). Thanks.
 
Greg Shutterbug said:
Does anyone have comments about the skintone or colors in general?
I thought the Sony was kindof washed out and the brown bricks
around the pool appear to have a red tint, as does the subject's
face (the subject actually has a nice tan, not a sunburn!). Thanks.
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What I notice is that the fugi shot gives the girl a greenish forehead.

I find your Sony shot to be really sharp, well exposed...and the reddish highlights can be easily one steped out in a photo program, although they do not bother me.
 
I agree with Lance. The S75 gives a much sharper image. I found the Fuji gives the picture higher contrast, but to me it looks like it's out of focus. The colors on the S75 still looks realistic (for someone who haven't seen the subject in real-life). The only color that bugs me it's the tiles in the water which looks like purple.

Overall I find it harder to get the right colors with the S75 on a outdoor shot on a sunny day. But colors can be adjusted with apps such as Photoshop, but if it bugs you that much you might want to consider the S85 instead.
Lance said:
What I notice is that the fugi shot gives the girl a greenish
forehead.

I find your Sony shot to be really sharp, well exposed...and the
reddish highlights can be easily one steped out in a photo program,
although they do not bother me.
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I think the Sony has a slightly higher exposure level than the Fuji (more light coming in), therefore lighter skin tones on the very photogenic child. Like others have said a white balance adjustiment may render more accurate colors, but if you're unsatisfied with the intensity or brightness of the image all you can do is select -1 EV in your exposure compensation or alter the photo with your photo editing software.
Steve C.
 
The picture looks great to me. The slightly warm tone from the afternoon sun sets the mood well. That sun may have fooled your while balance setting a little, but I like the effect. If you don't like that effect, then try one of the manual while balance settings, or adjust it in post processing. I let Photoshop Elements do an automatic color level adjustment on your photo and the warm glow went away, but so did the picture's sunny character.

Nevertheless, this does not appear to be the infamous red/green intensity issue that is so often discussed (but I don't believe). This is just a white level issue.

Have you adjusted your monitor's gamma. That can have a large effect on how colors appear.

-- Doug --
Greg Shutterbug said:
1. My original Sony upload was corrupted, I reuploaded the Sony
picture.
2. The pictures were directly from the cameras, I only added
"1temp" to the front of the filename to keep track of them in my
server account.
3. Camera settings= Automatic in both cases. No manual preset.

Does anyone have comments about the skintone or colors in general?
I thought the Sony was kindof washed out and the brown bricks
around the pool appear to have a red tint, as does the subject's
face (the subject actually has a nice tan, not a sunburn!). Thanks.
Click to expand...
 
Greg Shutterbug said:
Purchased an S75 last week (and an Epson 890 Photoprinter).

I really was excited to get a nice zoom camera with so many manual
functions. I got the S75 after a lot of reading & research. I got
all the accessories available for it (2 128 MB sticks, lens
adapter, lens kit, 2 extra batts, external charger, Sony case, etc
etc). In other words, I was convinced this would work out !

The acid test came today when I did side by side tests with my
older FujiFilm camera (in fact, it's just an MX-2700 !!). I did
this because the color of the pictures was bothering me (even
before seeing the comments on this board).

Sure, there is somewhat higher resolution with the Sony (as opposed
to the 2.3 MP Fuji)..... but the Fuji color conversion is so much
better. There is entirely too much RED tone with the Sony (at least
on my unit).

I have uploaded a couple of pictures (right from the camera). I
printed these on the Epson 890 in 8x10 at 2880 DPI (razor sharp
quality), and the Sony just looks too red right from the camera,
without any post processing. The bricks around this pool are brown,
not reddish !

Also note the skin tone in the picture. Any comments?
My plan is to 'HOLD' until they get it right. Man I need a good dig
camera. How is the Epson 3000Z ?

Of course, your mileage may vary.

PS Darn, I wanted this to work out !! Got one of my 128M sticks
mail order (not even used), and not sure I can even return it
without a steep restocking fee !!!

Files too big to post, so here are the URLs. I will keep them up
there for a couple days.

Sony Picture (untouched):
http://home1.gte.net/res0ak9f/1TempDsc00129.jpg

FujiFilm comparison shot:
http://home1.gte.net/res0ak9f/1TempDscf1344.jpg

I personally like the Sony picture. The other picture appears to be out of focus and is not nearly as sharp.
Click to expand...
 
Greg, I thought the pictures looked OK. My view didn't show a significant difference in the "brown/red" tile. The beautiful subject was a bit lighter skin tone. I think setting the exposure -1 or so might help allow more color on your subject in that particular scene.

Don
Greg Shutterbug said:
Purchased an S75 last week (and an Epson 890 Photoprinter).

I really was excited to get a nice zoom camera with so many manual
functions. I got the S75 after a lot of reading & research. I got
all the accessories available for it (2 128 MB sticks, lens
adapter, lens kit, 2 extra batts, external charger, Sony case, etc
etc). In other words, I was convinced this would work out !

The acid test came today when I did side by side tests with my
older FujiFilm camera (in fact, it's just an MX-2700 !!). I did
this because the color of the pictures was bothering me (even
before seeing the comments on this board).

Sure, there is somewhat higher resolution with the Sony (as opposed
to the 2.3 MP Fuji)..... but the Fuji color conversion is so much
better. There is entirely too much RED tone with the Sony (at least
on my unit).

I have uploaded a couple of pictures (right from the camera). I
printed these on the Epson 890 in 8x10 at 2880 DPI (razor sharp
quality), and the Sony just looks too red right from the camera,
without any post processing. The bricks around this pool are brown,
not reddish !

Also note the skin tone in the picture. Any comments?
My plan is to 'HOLD' until they get it right. Man I need a good dig
camera. How is the Epson 3000Z ?

Of course, your mileage may vary.

PS Darn, I wanted this to work out !! Got one of my 128M sticks
mail order (not even used), and not sure I can even return it
without a steep restocking fee !!!

Files too big to post, so here are the URLs. I will keep them up
there for a couple days.

Sony Picture (untouched):
http://home1.gte.net/res0ak9f/1TempDsc00129.jpg

FujiFilm comparison shot:
http://home1.gte.net/res0ak9f/1TempDscf1344.jpg
Click to expand...
 
Hi Greg,

As you I purchased an S75 2 weeks ago and I was very disapointed by the oversturated red and I prefer far away my old S70. I returned the S75 and got a G1 which give me all satisfaction (but NOT to use the Auto mode).

@+, Bernie from France

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Greg Shutterbug said:
Purchased an S75 last week (and an Epson 890 Photoprinter).

I really was excited to get a nice zoom camera with so many manual
functions. I got the S75 after a lot of reading & research. I got
all the accessories available for it (2 128 MB sticks, lens
adapter, lens kit, 2 extra batts, external charger, Sony case, etc
etc). In other words, I was convinced this would work out !

The acid test came today when I did side by side tests with my
older FujiFilm camera (in fact, it's just an MX-2700 !!). I did
this because the color of the pictures was bothering me (even
before seeing the comments on this board).

Sure, there is somewhat higher resolution with the Sony (as opposed
to the 2.3 MP Fuji)..... but the Fuji color conversion is so much
better. There is entirely too much RED tone with the Sony (at least
on my unit).

I have uploaded a couple of pictures (right from the camera). I
printed these on the Epson 890 in 8x10 at 2880 DPI (razor sharp
quality), and the Sony just looks too red right from the camera,
without any post processing. The bricks around this pool are brown,
not reddish !

Also note the skin tone in the picture. Any comments?
My plan is to 'HOLD' until they get it right. Man I need a good dig
camera. How is the Epson 3000Z ?

Of course, your mileage may vary.

PS Darn, I wanted this to work out !! Got one of my 128M sticks
mail order (not even used), and not sure I can even return it
without a steep restocking fee !!!

Files too big to post, so here are the URLs. I will keep them up
there for a couple days.

Sony Picture (untouched):
http://home1.gte.net/res0ak9f/1TempDsc00129.jpg

FujiFilm comparison shot:
http://home1.gte.net/res0ak9f/1TempDscf1344.jpg
Click to expand...
 
Hi Greg,
Can I ask you a question?
Why on earth would you want to print straight from the camera?

Even the Pro's don't do that, they always post process, I still don't own a digital camera at this point in time, but I tell you what, with all the SLR 35mm pictures I have, after scanning them into the computer, I still alter them in a photo editing program.

I doubt very much that you will find a PERFECT camera, no matter what price range you look in, there will always be short comings no matter what you choose.
Skippy
Greg Shutterbug said:
Purchased an S75 last week (and an Epson 890 Photoprinter).

I really was excited to get a nice zoom camera with so many manual
functions. I got the S75 after a lot of reading & research. I got
all the accessories available for it (2 128 MB sticks, lens
adapter, lens kit, 2 extra batts, external charger, Sony case, etc
etc). In other words, I was convinced this would work out !

The acid test came today when I did side by side tests with my
older FujiFilm camera (in fact, it's just an MX-2700 !!). I did
this because the color of the pictures was bothering me (even
before seeing the comments on this board).

Sure, there is somewhat higher resolution with the Sony (as opposed
to the 2.3 MP Fuji)..... but the Fuji color conversion is so much
better. There is entirely too much RED tone with the Sony (at least
on my unit).

I have uploaded a couple of pictures (right from the camera). I
printed these on the Epson 890 in 8x10 at 2880 DPI (razor sharp
quality), and the Sony just looks too red right from the camera,
without any post processing. The bricks around this pool are brown,
not reddish !

Also note the skin tone in the picture. Any comments?
My plan is to 'HOLD' until they get it right. Man I need a good dig
camera. How is the Epson 3000Z ?

Of course, your mileage may vary.

PS Darn, I wanted this to work out !! Got one of my 128M sticks
mail order (not even used), and not sure I can even return it
without a steep restocking fee !!!

Files too big to post, so here are the URLs. I will keep them up
there for a couple days.

Sony Picture (untouched):
http://home1.gte.net/res0ak9f/1TempDsc00129.jpg

FujiFilm comparison shot:
http://home1.gte.net/res0ak9f/1TempDscf1344.jpg
Click to expand...
 
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