Monopod vs. tripod

I have a Bogen monopod that I used to use with my Nikon SLR. It works quite well with my G1. I have a tripod too - but as you say, the monopod is a lot less cumbersome. I like using it.

Dave Sparks
Anyone out there used a monopod with the G1? Seems like it could
be less cumbersome than a tripod...
 
Also, here is a tip I found elsewhere in the forum:

"Second is a 1/4 by 20 screw and 5 feet of light chain. Put the screw through the chain and then into the tripod socket. Drop the chain to the floor lower you camera and inch or so step on the chain then pull up on the camera. The tension that is created will act as a reversed monopod. I have taken shots up to 2 second with this method that were razor sharp. The nice thing of this one is that if you pick your chain wisely you can store it in a small pocket."
 
Also, here is a tip I found elsewhere in the forum:

"Second is a 1/4 by 20 screw and 5 feet of light chain. Put the
screw through the chain and then into the tripod socket. Drop the
chain to the floor lower you camera and inch or so step on the
chain then pull up on the camera. The tension that is created will
act as a reversed monopod. I have taken shots up to 2 second with
this method that were razor sharp. The nice thing of this one is
that if you pick your chain wisely you can store it in a small
pocket."
I have used a system as above except instead of a light chain I've used a length of thin woven nylon window blind cord. I works well and is very easy to store. There is a small amount of stretch to the cord so it is important to exert enough upward pressure to make it stable.
 
Yes, this is a good old-fashioned idea going back many years into old film days and which I had entirely forgotten until now reminded - but it DOES work very well, and don't forget that it 'bends' however you want it , so for instance you can put your foot on the 'floor end' , kneel down and let it'wrap' round your knee or get a firm tight control in many ways. Small link chain is easy to get and adequate for this, no big chunky links needed, and it will go into a pocket-corner when not in use. I've used a monopod for many years and some can be very useful but even folded to minimum , most are still 12 inches or so long, to be carried. Against that I much prefer such as (by example) a SLIK Pro MINI-POD which is small and excellent to use and can be used as a chest-pod too - often with helpful results. Folded , they are generally a bit less than a monopod but comparable.

EJN
Also, here is a tip I found elsewhere in the forum:

"Second is a 1/4 by 20 screw and 5 feet of light chain. Put the
screw through the chain and then into the tripod socket. Drop the
chain to the floor lower you camera and inch or so step on the
chain then pull up on the camera. The tension that is created will
act as a reversed monopod. I have taken shots up to 2 second with
this method that were razor sharp. The nice thing of this one is
that if you pick your chain wisely you can store it in a small
pocket."
 
I don't get it. You connect the chain to the place the camera is connected on top of the monopod?... just don't get wht you do and how it gets so stable. Can you shote yourself with the monopod and the chain in front of a mirror so it will be easier to figure it out?

Also, would this work also on panoraama shots where pivot point hould be maintained through out the shooting process?

Thanks

Ruvy
Also, here is a tip I found elsewhere in the forum:

"Second is a 1/4 by 20 screw and 5 feet of light chain. Put the
screw through the chain and then into the tripod socket. Drop the
chain to the floor lower you camera and inch or so step on the
chain then pull up on the camera. The tension that is created will
act as a reversed monopod. I have taken shots up to 2 second with
this method that were razor sharp. The nice thing of this one is
that if you pick your chain wisely you can store it in a small
pocket."
 
Ruvy -

I can understand your difficulty as it IS an old do-it-yourself system which really does work but it is often a problem in buying the bits to do it. I can't show you as although I know well enough what it is I don't have or use one myself to show.

Basically your best bet is to start by going to a decent camera shop where many good ones will have for sale just the round knurnled knob , same as you often get on a good old hard-case for 35mm and it's usually already in the base of such case. You screw that knob into the tripod hole at base of camera to secure the case and the knob has a 1/4 inch threaded hole on the underside into which you can screw the tripod - follow so far ?

Now if you can find a shop which sells those screw-in knobs, short thread one side to screw into camera base, 1/4 inch hole bottom side, that's most of it. You just then attach a light chain to that underside knob and long enough to dangle to the floor when you're standing. Just put your foot on the chain end on the ground, pull upwards to 'tighten' the camera hold and it is a remarkable stabilizer instead of a free hold. As I mentioned in my message, with your foot on it on the ground you can let it wrap around your knee for example in a stoop position for low shots and the chain tightens from floor , via you knee or wherever suitable and still acts as a stabilizer to the camera as it removes a lot of the free hand-held movement.

As to panos - well, I doubt if it might be 'fixed position' enough to be good enough for that. Some Pano programs don't mind a fair bit of movement , others need more strict control on the level horizontal - you could but try, but for just ordinary shots it could well be worthwhile anyway - and so easy to carry in your pocket when not in use. A small cheap pouch of sorts could carry it and protect your pockets from the metal chain rubbing against anything in your pocket. Getting the knob and something to fasten the chain on might be a little problem but I'm sure the knob should be easy to get from a good photo dealer as I know they are one of those little bits of accessories , like lens-cap-keepers, that many sell. Worth the effort instead of a more cumbersome pod of some sort.

EJN
I don't get it. You connect the chain to the place the camera is
connected on top of the monopod?... just don't get wht you do and
how it gets so stable. Can you shote yourself with the monopod and
the chain in front of a mirror so it will be easier to figure it
out?

Also, would this work also on panoraama shots where pivot point
hould be maintained through out the shooting process?

Thanks

Ruvy
 
EJN

Thank so much. Very exciting concept - that is if I understood it. Here is what I got. You use a screw that has a threaded hole in bottom side and treaded short rod on the other (excuse my English). you place one end of a chain over the srew of the monopod place the threaded hole of the screw over it to tighten the chain to the monopod, place the camera on top of the other side of this screa and use the chain like a tent string but instead of a stake you place your foot over it.

If I got it right than the question is why can't I put the chain between the head of the monopod and the camera itself? in other word what is the function of the srea with the threaded hole - is it to protect the camera from the uneven surface of the chain?

Thank you very nuch for the thorough description. The idea of the chains is very intriguing. I am thinking now why not to creat a bracket with three holes one will connect to the monopod and from each of the other holes to use a chain or string each to a different foot or stake and get three point stability as in tripod

any thoughts?

Thanks

Ruvy
I can understand your difficulty as it IS an old do-it-yourself
system which really does work but it is often a problem in buying
the bits to do it. I can't show you as although I know well enough
what it is I don't have or use one myself to show.
Basically your best bet is to start by going to a decent camera
shop where many good ones will have for sale just the round
knurnled knob , same as you often get on a good old hard-case for
35mm and it's usually already in the base of such case. You screw
that knob into the tripod hole at base of camera to secure the case
and the knob has a 1/4 inch threaded hole on the underside into
which you can screw the tripod - follow so far ?
Now if you can find a shop which sells those screw-in knobs, short
thread one side to screw into camera base, 1/4 inch hole bottom
side, that's most of it. You just then attach a light chain to that
underside knob and long enough to dangle to the floor when you're
standing. Just put your foot on the chain end on the ground, pull
upwards to 'tighten' the camera hold and it is a remarkable
stabilizer instead of a free hold. As I mentioned in my message,
with your foot on it on the ground you can let it wrap around your
knee for example in a stoop position for low shots and the chain
tightens from floor , via you knee or wherever suitable and still
acts as a stabilizer to the camera as it removes a lot of the free
hand-held movement.
As to panos - well, I doubt if it might be 'fixed position' enough
to be good enough for that. Some Pano programs don't mind a fair
bit of movement , others need more strict control on the level
horizontal - you could but try, but for just ordinary shots it
could well be worthwhile anyway - and so easy to carry in your
pocket when not in use. A small cheap pouch of sorts could carry it
and protect your pockets from the metal chain rubbing against
anything in your pocket. Getting the knob and something to fasten
the chain on might be a little problem but I'm sure the knob should
be easy to get from a good photo dealer as I know they are one of
those little bits of accessories , like lens-cap-keepers, that many
sell. Worth the effort instead of a more cumbersome pod of some
sort.

EJN
I don't get it. You connect the chain to the place the camera is
connected on top of the monopod?... just don't get wht you do and
how it gets so stable. Can you shote yourself with the monopod and
the chain in front of a mirror so it will be easier to figure it
out?

Also, would this work also on panoraama shots where pivot point
hould be maintained through out the shooting process?

Thanks

Ruvy
 
I don't get it. You connect the chain to the place the camera is
connected on top of the monopod?... just don't get wht you do and

~*******~
~*******~~~~~~
CAMERA
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SCREW \ 8
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FOOT** ~ 8
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Screw holds chain to tripod mount on camera. Foot holds chain to floor. You hold the camera and pull up, creating tension on the chain and stablity.
 
Ruvy,

Your idea is to use the monopod as one leg, and two lengths of chain as additional "legs" to give three-point stability; this is a good idea, but not what EJN was saying.

In his example, there is no monopod involved. The chain essentially hangs from the underside of the camera; by placing your foot on the end of the chain and pulling up to make the chain taut you provide the tension that would have been provided by the monopod.

This is an old "poor man's monopod" that was (is?) commonly used by hikers, backpackers, and other concerned about bulk and weight. The chain fits in your pocket and weighs a few ounces. The Monopod, when not used as a hiking or walking sick, is a bulky thing to drag around.

Get a knurled thumbscrew with 1/4" diameter to go into the hole in the bottom of the camera where the tripod would normally be mounted. This is solely to protect the bottom of the camera from scratches caused by the chain. In the bottom of the knurled thumbscrew should be another 1/4' diameter threaded hole, just like the one on the bottom of the camera. in this hole you will screw in an eye-bolt with a short threaded shank. If you cannot find an eye-bolt with a shank short enough, put a hex-head nut on the bolt's shank before you screw it into the knurled thumbscrew, and tighten the hex nut againt the thumbscrew to act as a lock-nut. Attached one end of the chain to the eye of the eye-bolt, and stand on the other end, pulling up on the camera to create tension and stability. This works very well-- just don't drop the camera!

Hope this helps...

--rhb
Thank so much. Very exciting concept - that is if I understood it.
Here is what I got. You use a screw that has a threaded hole in
bottom side and treaded short rod on the other (excuse my English).
you place one end of a chain over the srew of the monopod place the
threaded hole of the screw over it to tighten the chain to the
monopod, place the camera on top of the other side of this screa
and use the chain like a tent string but instead of a stake you
place your foot over it.

If I got it right than the question is why can't I put the chain
between the head of the monopod and the camera itself? in other
word what is the function of the srea with the threaded hole - is
it to protect the camera from the uneven surface of the chain?

Thank you very nuch for the thorough description. The idea of the
chains is very intriguing. I am thinking now why not to creat a
bracket with three holes one will connect to the monopod and from
each of the other holes to use a chain or string each to a
different foot or stake and get three point stability as in tripod

any thoughts?

Thanks

Ruvy
I can understand your difficulty as it IS an old do-it-yourself
system which really does work but it is often a problem in buying
the bits to do it. I can't show you as although I know well enough
what it is I don't have or use one myself to show.
Basically your best bet is to start by going to a decent camera
shop where many good ones will have for sale just the round
knurnled knob , same as you often get on a good old hard-case for
35mm and it's usually already in the base of such case. You screw
that knob into the tripod hole at base of camera to secure the case
and the knob has a 1/4 inch threaded hole on the underside into
which you can screw the tripod - follow so far ?
Now if you can find a shop which sells those screw-in knobs, short
thread one side to screw into camera base, 1/4 inch hole bottom
side, that's most of it. You just then attach a light chain to that
underside knob and long enough to dangle to the floor when you're
standing. Just put your foot on the chain end on the ground, pull
upwards to 'tighten' the camera hold and it is a remarkable
stabilizer instead of a free hold. As I mentioned in my message,
with your foot on it on the ground you can let it wrap around your
knee for example in a stoop position for low shots and the chain
tightens from floor , via you knee or wherever suitable and still
acts as a stabilizer to the camera as it removes a lot of the free
hand-held movement.
As to panos - well, I doubt if it might be 'fixed position' enough
to be good enough for that. Some Pano programs don't mind a fair
bit of movement , others need more strict control on the level
horizontal - you could but try, but for just ordinary shots it
could well be worthwhile anyway - and so easy to carry in your
pocket when not in use. A small cheap pouch of sorts could carry it
and protect your pockets from the metal chain rubbing against
anything in your pocket. Getting the knob and something to fasten
the chain on might be a little problem but I'm sure the knob should
be easy to get from a good photo dealer as I know they are one of
those little bits of accessories , like lens-cap-keepers, that many
sell. Worth the effort instead of a more cumbersome pod of some
sort.

EJN
I don't get it. You connect the chain to the place the camera is
connected on top of the monopod?... just don't get wht you do and
how it gets so stable. Can you shote yourself with the monopod and
the chain in front of a mirror so it will be easier to figure it
out?

Also, would this work also on panoraama shots where pivot point
hould be maintained through out the shooting process?

Thanks

Ruvy
 
Ruvy -

No, No, you don't use a monopod at all. This chain idea REPLACES the monopod because it does a similar job but you can carry a chain anywhere. You get one of the round metal knobs that usually fit a camera hard-case to the tripod bush on underside of camera - so at that point you have a round knurled-edge knob screwed into the camera tripod hole. Then you find a way of suitably attaching a light chain TO THE KNOB, dangle that to the ground, put your foot on it to stabilize and it's like a monopod but a chain instead of a solid rod. Works just as well and the chain can be carried anywhere , ready to screw into camera base when you want. Believe me, it is a good substitute without having to carry a stiff monopod, at least 12 inch long when collapsed.

EJN
Thank so much. Very exciting concept - that is if I understood it.
Here is what I got. You use a screw that has a threaded hole in
bottom side and treaded short rod on the other (excuse my English).
you place one end of a chain over the srew of the monopod place the
threaded hole of the screw over it to tighten the chain to the
monopod, place the camera on top of the other side of this screa
and use the chain like a tent string but instead of a stake you
place your foot over it.

If I got it right than the question is why can't I put the chain
between the head of the monopod and the camera itself? in other
word what is the function of the srea with the threaded hole - is
it to protect the camera from the uneven surface of the chain?

Thank you very nuch for the thorough description. The idea of the
chains is very intriguing. I am thinking now why not to creat a
bracket with three holes one will connect to the monopod and from
each of the other holes to use a chain or string each to a
different foot or stake and get three point stability as in tripod

any thoughts?

Thanks

Ruvy
I can understand your difficulty as it IS an old do-it-yourself
system which really does work but it is often a problem in buying
the bits to do it. I can't show you as although I know well enough
what it is I don't have or use one myself to show.
Basically your best bet is to start by going to a decent camera
shop where many good ones will have for sale just the round
knurnled knob , same as you often get on a good old hard-case for
35mm and it's usually already in the base of such case. You screw
that knob into the tripod hole at base of camera to secure the case
and the knob has a 1/4 inch threaded hole on the underside into
which you can screw the tripod - follow so far ?
Now if you can find a shop which sells those screw-in knobs, short
thread one side to screw into camera base, 1/4 inch hole bottom
side, that's most of it. You just then attach a light chain to that
underside knob and long enough to dangle to the floor when you're
standing. Just put your foot on the chain end on the ground, pull
upwards to 'tighten' the camera hold and it is a remarkable
stabilizer instead of a free hold. As I mentioned in my message,
with your foot on it on the ground you can let it wrap around your
knee for example in a stoop position for low shots and the chain
tightens from floor , via you knee or wherever suitable and still
acts as a stabilizer to the camera as it removes a lot of the free
hand-held movement.
As to panos - well, I doubt if it might be 'fixed position' enough
to be good enough for that. Some Pano programs don't mind a fair
bit of movement , others need more strict control on the level
horizontal - you could but try, but for just ordinary shots it
could well be worthwhile anyway - and so easy to carry in your
pocket when not in use. A small cheap pouch of sorts could carry it
and protect your pockets from the metal chain rubbing against
anything in your pocket. Getting the knob and something to fasten
the chain on might be a little problem but I'm sure the knob should
be easy to get from a good photo dealer as I know they are one of
those little bits of accessories , like lens-cap-keepers, that many
sell. Worth the effort instead of a more cumbersome pod of some
sort.

EJN
I don't get it. You connect the chain to the place the camera is
connected on top of the monopod?... just don't get wht you do and
how it gets so stable. Can you shote yourself with the monopod and
the chain in front of a mirror so it will be easier to figure it
out?

Also, would this work also on panoraama shots where pivot point
hould be maintained through out the shooting process?

Thanks

Ruvy
 
Richard and EJN

Some time it is amazing to find how slow I can be but now I got it. Am glad that I have provided a creative interpertation that helped you realize how far off I have been. Thank you very much for the time you took to explain it - will try it soon though it seems like it will suffer from the same wicknesses of the monopod i.e. stable in the vertical plain and non stable in the horizontal plain.

Thank so much for this simple and great idea

Ruvy
No, No, you don't use a monopod at all. This chain idea REPLACES
the monopod because it does a similar job but you can carry a chain
anywhere. You get one of the round metal knobs that usually fit a
camera hard-case to the tripod bush on underside of camera - so at
that point you have a round knurled-edge knob screwed into the
camera tripod hole. Then you find a way of suitably attaching a
light chain TO THE KNOB, dangle that to the ground, put your foot
on it to stabilize and it's like a monopod but a chain instead of a
solid rod. Works just as well and the chain can be carried
anywhere , ready to screw into camera base when you want. Believe
me, it is a good substitute without having to carry a stiff
monopod, at least 12 inch long when collapsed.

EJN
Thank so much. Very exciting concept - that is if I understood it.
Here is what I got. You use a screw that has a threaded hole in
bottom side and treaded short rod on the other (excuse my English).
you place one end of a chain over the srew of the monopod place the
threaded hole of the screw over it to tighten the chain to the
monopod, place the camera on top of the other side of this screa
and use the chain like a tent string but instead of a stake you
place your foot over it.

If I got it right than the question is why can't I put the chain
between the head of the monopod and the camera itself? in other
word what is the function of the srea with the threaded hole - is
it to protect the camera from the uneven surface of the chain?

Thank you very nuch for the thorough description. The idea of the
chains is very intriguing. I am thinking now why not to creat a
bracket with three holes one will connect to the monopod and from
each of the other holes to use a chain or string each to a
different foot or stake and get three point stability as in tripod

any thoughts?

Thanks

Ruvy
I can understand your difficulty as it IS an old do-it-yourself
system which really does work but it is often a problem in buying
the bits to do it. I can't show you as although I know well enough
what it is I don't have or use one myself to show.
Basically your best bet is to start by going to a decent camera
shop where many good ones will have for sale just the round
knurnled knob , same as you often get on a good old hard-case for
35mm and it's usually already in the base of such case. You screw
that knob into the tripod hole at base of camera to secure the case
and the knob has a 1/4 inch threaded hole on the underside into
which you can screw the tripod - follow so far ?
Now if you can find a shop which sells those screw-in knobs, short
thread one side to screw into camera base, 1/4 inch hole bottom
side, that's most of it. You just then attach a light chain to that
underside knob and long enough to dangle to the floor when you're
standing. Just put your foot on the chain end on the ground, pull
upwards to 'tighten' the camera hold and it is a remarkable
stabilizer instead of a free hold. As I mentioned in my message,
with your foot on it on the ground you can let it wrap around your
knee for example in a stoop position for low shots and the chain
tightens from floor , via you knee or wherever suitable and still
acts as a stabilizer to the camera as it removes a lot of the free
hand-held movement.
As to panos - well, I doubt if it might be 'fixed position' enough
to be good enough for that. Some Pano programs don't mind a fair
bit of movement , others need more strict control on the level
horizontal - you could but try, but for just ordinary shots it
could well be worthwhile anyway - and so easy to carry in your
pocket when not in use. A small cheap pouch of sorts could carry it
and protect your pockets from the metal chain rubbing against
anything in your pocket. Getting the knob and something to fasten
the chain on might be a little problem but I'm sure the knob should
be easy to get from a good photo dealer as I know they are one of
those little bits of accessories , like lens-cap-keepers, that many
sell. Worth the effort instead of a more cumbersome pod of some
sort.

EJN
I don't get it. You connect the chain to the place the camera is
connected on top of the monopod?... just don't get wht you do and
how it gets so stable. Can you shote yourself with the monopod and
the chain in front of a mirror so it will be easier to figure it
out?

Also, would this work also on panoraama shots where pivot point
hould be maintained through out the shooting process?

Thanks

Ruvy
 

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