995 Sharpness

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Funny,alot of people that have recieved the 995 are not
experiencing the sharp image problem. Seems to be just a few. Maybe
some people don't know how to use the camera or maybe this is a
random problem which would be strange
Hi all, i own a CP990 and i am still confused about 995 sharpness. I agree with your version about " ... random problem ...".

I have seem Vincent post on and for me it is pretty evident 995 softness on edges. Furthermore, 990 shot was taken at 1/55 and 995 at 1/86, on both shots the center is well in focus, so, that MUST be the lens !!!

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1007&page=2&message=1162051
 
Thanks Paulo.. But I can't wait to get mine in!! I think it is still the best camera out on the market today. It is my first investment into the high end digital and I think from what I have read I will be more than pleased. I am sure if there is a sharpness problem it may could be addressed with a firmware update. Other than that, the 995 looks great to me!!
Funny,alot of people that have recieved the 995 are not
experiencing the sharp image problem. Seems to be just a few. Maybe
some people don't know how to use the camera or maybe this is a
random problem which would be strange
 
Paul,

Thanks for your response.

Last night I tried again the low light focus situations. I turned down the light to see when the focus got in trouble. I could see that in some very low light conditions it fails to focus even in manual AF but the light levels were very low indeed. I didn't try "auto AF area" yet. I always look for the area with the best contrast and it does a very good job at it.

If I have a chance tonight, I will try "auto AF area" in low light to see if the camera has more difficulties to focus in comparison to "manual AF area" setting.

Jan
Unfortunately, I had to send my second 995 to its owner this
morning, so can no longer try things out.

I took some brick wall test photos yesterday late afternoon (to
compare with the 990) which I may add to the web page this weekend.

Cheers,
Paul
After reading your focus problem, I tried my 995 in extreme low
light last night and could focus all the time without any problem.
The only time I couldn't get a focus lock was when I pointed my
camera to a white wall with very low light and no shadow, any other
condition it worked OK.
Of course if the subject is not visible on your LCD, camera can't
focus also.
I used my camera in manual mode and used the "AF manual area
mode", if you point your camera to the low light subject and select
an area with some contrast, it locks in all the time.

With low light I mean, I barrely could read my newspaper.

Jan
 
Jan, I would be interested to hear your results too. Looking forward to your post tonite.. Jerry
If I have a chance tonight, I will try "auto AF area" in low light
to see if the camera has more difficulties to focus in comparison
to "manual AF area" setting.

Jan
 
Jan, I forgot to mention, Try a closeup in the lowlight too, to see how it performs. Thanks Jerry
Thanks for your response.
Last night I tried again the low light focus situations. I turned
down the light to see when the focus got in trouble. I could see
that in some very low light conditions it fails to focus even in
manual AF but the light levels were very low indeed. I didn't try
"auto AF area" yet. I always look for the area with the best
contrast and it does a very good job at it.
If I have a chance tonight, I will try "auto AF area" in low light
to see if the camera has more difficulties to focus in comparison
to "manual AF area" setting.

Jan
Unfortunately, I had to send my second 995 to its owner this
morning, so can no longer try things out.

I took some brick wall test photos yesterday late afternoon (to
compare with the 990) which I may add to the web page this weekend.

Cheers,
Paul
After reading your focus problem, I tried my 995 in extreme low
light last night and could focus all the time without any problem.
The only time I couldn't get a focus lock was when I pointed my
camera to a white wall with very low light and no shadow, any other
condition it worked OK.
Of course if the subject is not visible on your LCD, camera can't
focus also.
I used my camera in manual mode and used the "AF manual area
mode", if you point your camera to the low light subject and select
an area with some contrast, it locks in all the time.

With low light I mean, I barrely could read my newspaper.

Jan
 
I've added the "brick wall" test to the web page, but more
interestingly, I've also added some 300% crops of 990 vs 995
comparison photos using a range of "none" to "high" sharpening.
That really puts the results under the microscope.

You'll also notice that the 995 won the colour balance test in the
brick wall shots!

http://www.holo-graphic.com/CP995_test/

Cheers,
Paul
Seems to me the 990 looks sharper in these brickshots.

Dh
 
Paul, Thanks for the comparison. After examining them for some time now, I finde I like the colours of the 995 much better than the 990 (except for the firmware bug on the white balance which nikon said was being fixed, in your mostly red shot of the box). I also liked the shot you did in your first comparison of the crane, with the suburban down in the lower left. I could see more resolution of the suburban with the 995 then the 990, yes the 995 did look softer, but seemed to show a little better on resolution. Also on your brick shot I noticed that in the first example the 995 had a lower fstop then the 990 and that the out of focus portion was on the left, not the right. This doesn't sound like any lens problem I have seen before. With the lower fstop, if the camera is no perfectly perpendicular to the wall one side will be more out of focus then the other. If it were a lens problem then you should see it out of focus on all four corners of lower fstop wide angle shots. Any thoughts Paul, besides your the one with the camera. :)

Sherm
I've added the "brick wall" test to the web page, but more
interestingly, I've also added some 300% crops of 990 vs 995
comparison photos using a range of "none" to "high" sharpening.
That really puts the results under the microscope.

You'll also notice that the 995 won the colour balance test in the
brick wall shots!

http://www.holo-graphic.com/CP995_test/

Cheers,
Paul
 
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Good morning!

I'm very new to this digital realm. The problem with "Green Haze' in Flourescent light shots, and Orange (Redish/Yellow) is normal in the "Film" world.

Film sees light differently, or is more sensitive to the color of "Light", than our eyes.

Does anyone make a camera that actually knows what kind of light is being used?

Donn
 
Jerry.

I successfully tried the low light shot with a short distance 2 days ago. It was about 3 feet (1 meter) away from the subject. Again you need to focus on an area with contrast. If you do this, in most cases focus lock is not a problem. The procedure is not different then a far away subject.

Jan
Thanks for your response.
Last night I tried again the low light focus situations. I turned
down the light to see when the focus got in trouble. I could see
that in some very low light conditions it fails to focus even in
manual AF but the light levels were very low indeed. I didn't try
"auto AF area" yet. I always look for the area with the best
contrast and it does a very good job at it.
If I have a chance tonight, I will try "auto AF area" in low light
to see if the camera has more difficulties to focus in comparison
to "manual AF area" setting.

Jan
Unfortunately, I had to send my second 995 to its owner this
morning, so can no longer try things out.

I took some brick wall test photos yesterday late afternoon (to
compare with the 990) which I may add to the web page this weekend.

Cheers,
Paul
After reading your focus problem, I tried my 995 in extreme low
light last night and could focus all the time without any problem.
The only time I couldn't get a focus lock was when I pointed my
camera to a white wall with very low light and no shadow, any other
condition it worked OK.
Of course if the subject is not visible on your LCD, camera can't
focus also.
I used my camera in manual mode and used the "AF manual area
mode", if you point your camera to the low light subject and select
an area with some contrast, it locks in all the time.

With low light I mean, I barrely could read my newspaper.

Jan
 
Sherm,

Thanks for the feedback. I also prefer the colours in the 995. Red bricks are red, blue sky is blue... And skin tones are very nice. I just find the colours a little over-saturated, so ended up sticking with saturation -1.

With the wide angle brick shots (with low f-stop) , the depth-of-field comes into play, so it's difficult for me to make conclusions about the lens using thoses shots. And as you say, the camera wasn't perpendicular (in either plane). But with other 8mm focal length shots I've taken, I don't see any problems with the corners of the image.

The top left crane shot is still a mystery to me. The left side of the image (including the Suburban truck in the bottom left corner) is sharp, but most of the right side of the image looks like it was left unsharpened! The second 995 I got never did anything like that.

http://holo-graphic.com/CP995_test/

Cheers,
Paul
Paul, Thanks for the comparison. After examining them for some time
now, I finde I like the colours of the 995 much better than the 990
(except for the firmware bug on the white balance which nikon said
was being fixed, in your mostly red shot of the box). I also liked
the shot you did in your first comparison of the crane, with the
suburban down in the lower left. I could see more resolution of the
suburban with the 995 then the 990, yes the 995 did look softer,
but seemed to show a little better on resolution. Also on your
brick shot I noticed that in the first example the 995 had a lower
fstop then the 990 and that the out of focus portion was on the
left, not the right. This doesn't sound like any lens problem I
have seen before. With the lower fstop, if the camera is no
perfectly perpendicular to the wall one side will be more out of
focus then the other. If it were a lens problem then you should see
it out of focus on all four corners of lower fstop wide angle
shots. Any thoughts Paul, besides your the one with the camera. :)

Sherm
 
Thanks for the pictures Paul. I agree the 995 Colours were better..
Thanks for the feedback. I also prefer the colours in the 995.
Red bricks are red, blue sky is blue... And skin tones are very
nice. I just find the colours a little over-saturated, so ended up
sticking with saturation -1.

With the wide angle brick shots (with low f-stop) , the
depth-of-field comes into play, so it's difficult for me to make
conclusions about the lens using thoses shots. And as you say, the
camera wasn't perpendicular (in either plane). But with other 8mm
focal length shots I've taken, I don't see any problems with the
corners of the image.

The top left crane shot is still a mystery to me. The left side of
the image (including the Suburban truck in the bottom left corner)
is sharp, but most of the right side of the image looks like it was
left unsharpened! The second 995 I got never did anything like
that.

http://holo-graphic.com/CP995_test/

Cheers,
Paul
Paul, Thanks for the comparison. After examining them for some time
now, I finde I like the colours of the 995 much better than the 990
(except for the firmware bug on the white balance which nikon said
was being fixed, in your mostly red shot of the box). I also liked
the shot you did in your first comparison of the crane, with the
suburban down in the lower left. I could see more resolution of the
suburban with the 995 then the 990, yes the 995 did look softer,
but seemed to show a little better on resolution. Also on your
brick shot I noticed that in the first example the 995 had a lower
fstop then the 990 and that the out of focus portion was on the
left, not the right. This doesn't sound like any lens problem I
have seen before. With the lower fstop, if the camera is no
perfectly perpendicular to the wall one side will be more out of
focus then the other. If it were a lens problem then you should see
it out of focus on all four corners of lower fstop wide angle
shots. Any thoughts Paul, besides your the one with the camera. :)

Sherm
 
Yes lots sharper Deserthawk I blind man could see that. Your G1
would probably be sharper yet
maybe jerry. But i don't think you'd find much difference between the g1 and the 990.

But you're right even someone as blind as i could see the 995 were softer.

dh
 
Nobody said you were blind Deserthawk. I would love to have the GI, 995 and maybe another camera but I don't want to tie up that much money in cameras. I chose the 995 over the G1 mainly because I needed closeups. Jerry
Yes lots sharper Deserthawk I blind man could see that. Your G1
would probably be sharper yet
maybe jerry. But i don't think you'd find much difference between
the g1 and the 990.

But you're right even someone as blind as i could see the 995 were
softer.

dh
 
Just had a look at Phils review of the new Sony S85.
When i saw the pages with image quality where phil compare the S85
to the s75, G1 and CP995. It struck me how unsharp the pictures
from the 995 looked. This new 4x lens seems really to let it down.
Both the G1 and s75 looked much sharper.

Dh
Duh, Good thing you got the G1, then. FJBrad
This must be the lamest comment i've read on this forum. How about joining the discussion instead of flamming brad.

dh
 
Dessethawk!

I see flamming from you more than I see from FJBrad...let's be honest you got not business here, since you are a G1 user.

His replay is a valid one, what about I go to the canon forum and post a similar post like yours?
see what happen........

regards.

Frances.
Just had a look at Phils review of the new Sony S85.
When i saw the pages with image quality where phil compare the S85
to the s75, G1 and CP995. It struck me how unsharp the pictures
from the 995 looked. This new 4x lens seems really to let it down.
Both the G1 and s75 looked much sharper.

Dh
Duh, Good thing you got the G1, then. FJBrad
This must be the lamest comment i've read on this forum. How about
joining the discussion instead of flamming brad.

dh
 
Dessethawk!
I see flamming from you more than I see from FJBrad...let's be
honest you got not business here, since you are a G1 user.
I admit to returning FJ's fire in this case. And i reserve the right to respond to unfair comments like his.

As for my not having any business here....please don't be so defensive...let me just asssure you was not trying to dump on nikon.
His replay is a valid one
I don't see the validity in it. The point i raised about the sharpness was a valid one. I think this has been clearly proved by the active discussion in the thread.

, what about I go to the canon forum and
post a similar post like yours?
see what happen........
I'm sure you'd get some negative and lame comments like the one from FJBRAD. But if your point was legitimate i also think you'd start a discussion about it as indeed happened in this thread.

Let me just say again i don't have any gripe with nikon. Indeed i think nikon is an excellent manufacturer. I almost got the 990 but in the end decided to get the G1 because of price (it was 150 $ less). Had the price been the same i think i'd still be trying to decide. S

Dh
 
Thanks Paul for looking into that at sharing it with us :)

Sherm
Thanks for the feedback. I also prefer the colours in the 995.
Red bricks are red, blue sky is blue... And skin tones are very
nice. I just find the colours a little over-saturated, so ended up
sticking with saturation -1.

With the wide angle brick shots (with low f-stop) , the
depth-of-field comes into play, so it's difficult for me to make
conclusions about the lens using thoses shots. And as you say, the
camera wasn't perpendicular (in either plane). But with other 8mm
focal length shots I've taken, I don't see any problems with the
corners of the image.

The top left crane shot is still a mystery to me. The left side of
the image (including the Suburban truck in the bottom left corner)
is sharp, but most of the right side of the image looks like it was
left unsharpened! The second 995 I got never did anything like
that.

http://holo-graphic.com/CP995_test/

Cheers,
Paul
Paul, Thanks for the comparison. After examining them for some time
now, I finde I like the colours of the 995 much better than the 990
(except for the firmware bug on the white balance which nikon said
was being fixed, in your mostly red shot of the box). I also liked
the shot you did in your first comparison of the crane, with the
suburban down in the lower left. I could see more resolution of the
suburban with the 995 then the 990, yes the 995 did look softer,
but seemed to show a little better on resolution. Also on your
brick shot I noticed that in the first example the 995 had a lower
fstop then the 990 and that the out of focus portion was on the
left, not the right. This doesn't sound like any lens problem I
have seen before. With the lower fstop, if the camera is no
perfectly perpendicular to the wall one side will be more out of
focus then the other. If it were a lens problem then you should see
it out of focus on all four corners of lower fstop wide angle
shots. Any thoughts Paul, besides your the one with the camera. :)

Sherm
 

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