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Last winter, I signed up for the local high schools' Continuing Education course "Beginning Photoshop," paying the $42. registration fee. I already had Photoshop CS; I was quite surprised to find out at the first class that it included an "Academic Version" CD of PS 7 complete w/registration number, and it is completely upgradeable. Not bad for $42.
 
Roy van der Woning said:
Roy van der Woning said:
What slime-balls.. I'm curious on adobe response to me.
Thanks for the insight.

My son is in high-school, so I'm ordering the acdemic version.
Which I've been led to believe is a full version. The site
is also on adobe'w website.
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Not wanting to sound moralizing or anything (I'm certainly no saint
myself) but calling people slime-balls and then ordering an
academic version on your son's name with the intention to use it
yourself isn't ethical either...

Roy.
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My son is taking a photography course next month, and loves doing things on the computer. Has he's own webpage, etc. Also, photoshop, might be useful when he does school projects, and for his webpage. Plus, I'm hoping it can be a father-son thing will can do together.
Besides that, if you had a person in your family, that qualified for a
discount, and you refused it because it was mostly useful for you.
I commend you, you are alot more ethical than me, and probably 99.9%
of the population.
 
hockeynut said:
The best way around the $650 Adobe retail price is to buy an older
full version of PS on Ebay for $30 to $50, then buy the PS CS
upgrade at B&H for $150. Safe, effective, legal, and you don't
have to worry about being swindled.
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But if buying someone's old PS version, you would not be able to register it as it has already been registered by the prior owner. Doesn't CS upgrade need to install on top of a REGISTERED version?

--
David

 
Be aware that CS requires online validation from Adobe, so bootlegs and copies will likely end up as $99 CD ornaments on the Christmas tree.

As with all the other "too good to be true" deals seen here on dpreview, they are.
 
tom_mac said:
Roy van der Woning said:
tom_mac said:
What slime-balls.. I'm curious on adobe response to me.
Thanks for the insight.

My son is in high-school, so I'm ordering the acdemic version.
Which I've been led to believe is a full version. The site
is also on adobe'w website.
Click to expand...
Not wanting to sound moralizing or anything (I'm certainly no saint
myself) but calling people slime-balls and then ordering an
academic version on your son's name with the intention to use it
yourself isn't ethical either...

Roy.
Click to expand...
My son is taking a photography course next month, and loves doing
things on the computer. Has he's own webpage, etc. Also, photoshop,
might be useful when he does school projects, and for his webpage.
Plus, I'm hoping it can be a father-son thing will can do together.
Besides that, if you had a person in your family, that qualified for a
discount, and you refused it because it was mostly useful for you.
I commend you, you are alot more ethical than me, and probably 99.9%
of the population.
Click to expand...
I did some research at adobe and the academic sites that they recommend. The qualification for the discount, starts at (K-12).

Meaning, a 5 yr qualifies. Hmm.

Why would adobe do that???

It may start with the parents, but kids love to tinker, love to be creative, more so than adults.
They are also, are the future customers of adobe.

I'm not a professional, in fact, that photography course my son is taken.

I'm taking it also. Yes, I'm a newBie, and old one, but new just the same. The photography course, came with the 20D I bought from Ritz.
 
tom_mac said:
My son is taking a photography course next month, and loves doing
things on the computer. Has he's own webpage, etc. Also, photoshop,
might be useful when he does school projects, and for his webpage.
Plus, I'm hoping it can be a father-son thing will can do together.
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The point is that the academic license will only apply to your son. If you also want to use that same copy, you'd have to purchase a full license.
tom_mac said:
Besides that, if you had a person in your family, that qualified for a
discount, and you refused it because it was mostly useful for you.
I commend you, you are alot more ethical than me, and probably 99.9%
of the population.
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I'll refer to the "disclaimer" in my previous post, I'm certainly not that politically correct. In fact, I like the father-son thought behind your plan. Basically I just responded because you were so judgemental about copyright infringements and then suggested you'd tag along on your son's academic license in the same post.

FWIW: I genuinely hope you and your son will have fun sharing your hobby!

Roy.
 
Member said:
But if buying someone's old PS version, you would not be able to
register it as it has already been registered by the prior owner.
Doesn't CS upgrade need to install on top of a REGISTERED version?
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Presumably, one would have to contact Adobe to transfer the license to the new owner. That would also prevent the previous owner from continuing to use his registered copy as if he never sold it.

Roy.
 
I suspect that they expect parents to use the student's version if they share a computer. If your son has his own, then you are breaking the law if you install it in 2 computers. If fact, I think Adobe prevents this by keying the s/w to a single computer. Keeping us honest.
Mel
tom_mac said:
tom_mac said:
Roy van der Woning said:
tom_mac said:
What slime-balls.. I'm curious on adobe response to me.
Thanks for the insight.

My son is in high-school, so I'm ordering the acdemic version.
Which I've been led to believe is a full version. The site
is also on adobe'w website.
Click to expand...
Not wanting to sound moralizing or anything (I'm certainly no saint
myself) but calling people slime-balls and then ordering an
academic version on your son's name with the intention to use it
yourself isn't ethical either...

Roy.
Click to expand...
My son is taking a photography course next month, and loves doing
things on the computer. Has he's own webpage, etc. Also, photoshop,
might be useful when he does school projects, and for his webpage.
Plus, I'm hoping it can be a father-son thing will can do together.
Besides that, if you had a person in your family, that qualified for a
discount, and you refused it because it was mostly useful for you.
I commend you, you are alot more ethical than me, and probably 99.9%
of the population.
Click to expand...
I did some research at adobe and the academic sites that they
recommend. The qualification for the discount, starts at (K-12).

Meaning, a 5 yr qualifies. Hmm.

Why would adobe do that???
It may start with the parents, but kids love to tinker, love to be
creative, more so than adults.
They are also, are the future customers of adobe.

I'm not a professional, in fact, that photography course my son is
taken.
I'm taking it also. Yes, I'm a newBie, and old one, but new just
the same. The photography course, came with the 20D I bought from
Ritz.
Click to expand...
--
Mel
http://mslammers.smugmug.com/gallery/304279

 
Roy van der Woning said:
Roy van der Woning said:
My son is taking a photography course next month, and loves doing
things on the computer. Has he's own webpage, etc. Also, photoshop,
might be useful when he does school projects, and for his webpage.
Plus, I'm hoping it can be a father-son thing will can do together.
Click to expand...
The point is that the academic license will only apply to your son.
If you also want to use that same copy, you'd have to purchase a
full license.
Roy van der Woning said:
Besides that, if you had a person in your family, that qualified for a
discount, and you refused it because it was mostly useful for you.
I commend you, you are alot more ethical than me, and probably 99.9%
of the population.
Click to expand...
I'll refer to the "disclaimer" in my previous post, I'm certainly
not that politically correct. In fact, I like the father-son
thought behind your plan. Basically I just responded because you
were so judgemental about copyright infringements and then
suggested you'd tag along on your son's academic license in the
same post.

FWIW: I genuinely hope you and your son will have fun sharing your
hobby!

Roy.
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Thanks for your thoughts,

IN actually, it's my hobby to be, I'm a newBie.
We're both taking that course.

I would like to hear your comments, On the other reply to you.
Where I mentioned that adobe considers, any student in K-12.
I feel, that they already have the professionals buying there product.
Are they are marketing The Dads/Moms who like me, buy a 20D,
way too much camera, and now looking at photoshop CS, way too much

post processing. Also knowing, that kids love to tinker, and who love to be creative. The kids are the future customers for Adobe, and they are using the parents to get to the kids. How can a 1st grader be a qualifier for photoshop CS.
 
tom_mac said:
I would like to hear your comments, On the other reply to you.
Where I mentioned that adobe considers, any student in K-12.
I feel, that they already have the professionals buying there product.
Are they are marketing The Dads/Moms who like me, buy a 20D,
way too much camera, and now looking at photoshop CS, way too much
post processing. Also knowing, that kids love to tinker, and who
love to be creative. The kids are the future customers for Adobe,
and they are using the parents to get to the kids. How can a 1st
grader be a qualifier for photoshop CS.
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That almost odd at the surface. Like they're almost expecting people to purchase an academic license for their kids, full well knowing that a 1st grader will never use the software to its full potential. I wager that 95% (if not more) of digital camera buyers are quite happy with the software that comes bundled with it and never even consider to plunk down the amount of cash that PS CS sets you back for, let alone if the customer (albeit through its parents) is a 5 year old.

On the other hand, this may be a tactic to gain market share. Once you've sniffed at the prowess of PS CS, it's hard to go back. I wouldn't be surprised if there were an entire Adobe staff dedicated to leaving just enough feature out of PS Elements to seduce you into purchasing its mighty sibling once you've come into contact with it.

Maybe someone with a degree in marketing would care to chime in?

Roy.
 
I'm surprised at that! I bought Adobe Elements (I later bought CS), but my software is a legal, registered copy, and I installed it on all FIVE of my computers, and I didn't need Adobe to help me do it. My children and I use them all. I bought the software. It's mine, so why would it be illegal for me to install it on any computers I own?

No disrespect meant in my response, I'm just a bit taken back by this information. Also, what happens if a person buys a new computer and wants to install the software he paid a small fortune for on the new one? Yikes!

;)
Willa



Left-eyed and Canonized!
'If I could find my way back there, I'd NEVER leave!'
See my attempts at photography at:
http://www.pbase.com/willa
 
To avoid issues I have always purchased Photosho p direct from Adobe. That way ther can be no doubts of legitimacy.

The current version CS I purchased via upgrade. When you install it it is either necessary to have a working copy of a previous version already installed - or - you can place the disc into the drive so the install can check that you have a previous copy.

After installation you have 30 days in which to activate the program. Note this is NOT the same as registering it and is similar to what Microsoft is doing with XP and Office. You can activate automatically via the internet or by telephone.

I installed on copy on my laptop and one on the desktop machine. Then I had to reformat my main raid hardrive. When I reinstalled CS the internet activation failed. So I had to call Adobe and explain that I was not trying to install a THIRD copy. They acknowledged that the liscense allowed 2 copies to be installed on two of the users machines. They also said they were feeling their way into this activation scheme as they did not want to make this difficult for their legitimate users.

However the activation scheme provides no value to the end user but costs the end user time and money. And it can be a real nightmare, ie installing Windows XP, then changing the date on the calendar only to find when you reboot the machine will lock you out because it has not been activated and then even resetting the date will not release it.

I sure hope the software companies can find a less obtrusive method to protect their legitmate interests without infringing on mine

Bill
 
Willa said:
I'm surprised at that! I bought Adobe Elements (I later bought
CS), but my software is a legal, registered copy, and I installed
it on all FIVE of my computers, and I didn't need Adobe to help me
do it. My children and I use them all. I bought the software.
It's mine, so why would it be illegal for me to install it on any
computers I own?
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This is the same for most software. You are buying a licencse to install it on one machine at a time.

If you want to move it onto a different machine, that is OK so long as you delete it on the first.

This is all part of the licence agreement you clicked on "I accept" (or similar) when you installed the software)

Yours however is a common misunderstanding - and still far better than what many do of just using pirated completely unpaid for software.
Willa said:
No disrespect meant in my response, I'm just a bit taken back by
this information. Also, what happens if a person buys a new
computer and wants to install the software he paid a small fortune
for on the new one? Yikes!

;)
Willa



Left-eyed and Canonized!
'If I could find my way back there, I'd NEVER leave!'
See my attempts at photography at:
http://www.pbase.com/willa
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--
Tony Collins
[email protected]
 
I may be mistaken, but I don't think that it is legal to buy someone else's legal copy of PS and then, then buy an upgrade and reregister under your name. Are the rights transferrable? If so, you have provided an excellent way to own a legal copy of PS CS. I would like to hear from someone who knows the answer, for sure.
 
I didn't realize I'd agreed to all that, lol, but it seems you are right. Oh well.

Thanks for your input.

;)
Regards,
Willa



Left-eyed and Canonized!
'If I could find my way back there, I'd NEVER leave!'
See my attempts at photography at:
http://www.pbase.com/willa
 
Dave1234 said:
I may be mistaken, but I don't think that it is legal to buy
someone else's legal copy of PS and then, then buy an upgrade and
reregister under your name. Are the rights transferrable? If so,
you have provided an excellent way to own a legal copy of PS CS. I
would like to hear from someone who knows the answer, for sure.
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I can answer this sort-of from a microsoft experienece.
I love XP, and had the standard version.
I then bought XP professional- and registered it to microsoft,

I then gave the standard XP to my brother, told him to register it (you had to, to make it work), and if he can, give me a few bucks for it.
Microsoft saw that I now have the professional XP, and had no problems.

They got paid for both.
 
It says one CD only, factory sealed and requires online adobe authorization. Thats not bootleg, pirate or whatever you want to call it. Its probably academic without any extras hence the one CD, unless that website is lying about being able to authorize it.
 
tom_mac said:
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Adobe.This is the Windows version only, sorry not for Mac.

To good to be true??

Anyone use them before?

Happy post processing...
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