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What exactly is the difference between these types of media? I have found that my program, ProShow Gold, is refusing to write to DVD+R (I now have about 20 coasters) but is working fine on DVD+RW.

Does anyone know why this would occur and is there a downside to just burning them to DVD+RW?
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Theresa K said:
What exactly is the difference between these types of media? I
have found that my program, ProShow Gold, is refusing to write to
DVD+R (I now have about 20 coasters) but is working fine on DVD+RW.

Does anyone know why this would occur and is there a downside to
just burning them to DVD+RW
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I have not seen this behavior before. Have you tried any other software to write to the +R discs or tried a different brand? Maybe you gat a bad batch of discs.

Two possible downsides: cost and compatibility. Compatibility with older DVD players not being able to read RW discs might be a problem. Cost is up to you.

good luck,
Max
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If you are using them to back up your photos, the only down side to the +RW is the slower copy speed and the possibility of accidently erasing one, (sigh; it happened to me). One of the benefits to using +RW is from what I have read, they archive much better ( will be readable for more years).

But what ever format you use handle them with care, the surface can be damaged very easily.

I would agree that more than likely, you either have a bad batch of +R or found an incompatible brand with your player.

Mike Smith
maxwell said:
Theresa K said:
What exactly is the difference between these types of media? I
have found that my program, ProShow Gold, is refusing to write to
DVD+R (I now have about 20 coasters) but is working fine on DVD+RW.

Does anyone know why this would occur and is there a downside to
just burning them to DVD+RW
Click to expand...
I have not seen this behavior before. Have you tried any other
software to write to the +R discs or tried a different brand?
Maybe you gat a bad batch of discs.
Two possible downsides: cost and compatibility. Compatibility with
older DVD players not being able to read RW discs might be a
problem. Cost is up to you.

good luck,
Max
--
Max's Pictures and cameras: http://www.thelehmans.net/gallery

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Hi Theresa, I have had varying success using DVD-R blanks on my computer as well as DVD+R blanks. Some of my DVD'S would play on one DVD Player and not on another. I use a Plextor 708A DVD-RW and found that I could play some of my copies on my Harman Kardon DVD Player but not on my Sony and then the reverse of that on another copy.

I decided to do all my copies with blank DVD-R's because when I tried to play copies on various players including a Cheapo Apex brand that DVDS made on blank DVD-R'S worked on more players.

I also found that I had a better success ratio if I burned my DVD's when I used DVD SP in my Format rather than DVD HQ as this would cause the program to create an error message.

Once I was able to create a working DVD I found that the SP quality looked very good on newer Flat TV's and very good on my Sony XBR.
Good Luck, Pops
Theresa K said:
What exactly is the difference between these types of media? I
have found that my program, ProShow Gold, is refusing to write to
DVD+R (I now have about 20 coasters) but is working fine on DVD+RW.

Does anyone know why this would occur and is there a downside to
just burning them to DVD+RW?
--
Theresa
Constructive criticism always welcome! :)
http://www.pbase.com/theresa_k
Panasonic FZ-20, Oly C-5O6O & FL-4O

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I too have had varing degrees of success on playing DVD+ on my various players, but no problems with DVD-R anywhere. DVD-RW only plays on different players if I burn it as a DVD-R. This has been discussed here before with different experiences by posters.

As far at Theresa's problem, I re-read her post. She is saying she is not able to burn to a DVD+. But then she says she has a bunch of coasters, so it sounds like it is burning something. Theresa, I would ask if those coasters where indicated as burned but you tried them in a player and they did not work or if you got an error while burning.
pops said:
Theresa K said:
What exactly is the difference between these types of media? I
have found that my program, ProShow Gold, is refusing to write to
DVD+R (I now have about 20 coasters) but is working fine on DVD+RW.

Does anyone know why this would occur and is there a downside to
just burning them to DVD+RW?
--
Theresa
Constructive criticism always welcome! :)
http://www.pbase.com/theresa_k
Panasonic FZ-20, Oly C-5O6O & FL-4O

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and then the computer said they were full. Totally worthlesss.

As far as the other brand/batch issue goes, I tried two different types that have worked in the past. I think it is a software glitch as it works on the +RW.

As far as the + - thing, I thought I could not burn to a DVD- if my machine was a DVD+?

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Theresa
Constructive criticism always welcome! :)
http://www.pbase.com/theresa_k
Panasonic FZ-20, Oly C-5O6O & FL-4O

 
Theresa, some burners are + some - and some both formats. What brand is yours? Also, what burning software are you using.

If you are getting a message that the DVD is full then it may not be closing it out because you are trying to put more data on the blank than it can hold.
Theresa K said:
and then the computer said they were full. Totally worthlesss.

As far as the other brand/batch issue goes, I tried two different
types that have worked in the past. I think it is a software
glitch as it works on the +RW.

As far as the + - thing, I thought I could not burn to a DVD- if my
machine was a DVD+?

--
Theresa
Constructive criticism always welcome! :)
http://www.pbase.com/theresa_k
Panasonic FZ-20, Oly C-5O6O & FL-4O

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Kansas Ron said:
Theresa, some burners are + some - and some both formats. What
brand is yours? Also, what burning software are you using.
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Mine is an HP. I believe the writer is an HP 200j.
Kansas Ron said:
If you are getting a message that the DVD is full then it may not
be closing it out because you are trying to put more data on the
blank than it can hold.
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Can't be it - the disc holds 4.7G and the slideshow I am burning is about 500mb.

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Theresa
Constructive criticism always welcome! :)
http://www.pbase.com/theresa_k
Panasonic FZ-20, Oly C-5O6O & FL-4O

 
Not sure why would error on +Rs and not +RWs.. unless like others have said you got a bad batch of +Rs... As for Archiving purposes +RW or -RW are the best medias.. for compatibility with standalone players -R is the best choice.

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Theresa K said:
Kansas Ron said:
Theresa, some burners are + some - and some both formats. What
brand is yours? Also, what burning software are you using.
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Mine is an HP. I believe the writer is an HP 200j.
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That does explain the + only. As far as software, the ones I have the best luck with are Nero, EasyMedia Creator, and MyDVD (in no particular order). Unless I am trying to do too much on my computer (usually when burning a DVD I just let that run while I go and do something else) I never get coasters with any of the three (I use each for different purposes, but could use either Nero or Creator for anything). I don't know what comes with the HP as far as buring software but that may be the problem if you have never been able to burn a DVD+R.
Theresa K said:
Theresa K said:
If you are getting a message that the DVD is full then it may not
be closing it out because you are trying to put more data on the
blank than it can hold.
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Can't be it - the disc holds 4.7G and the slideshow I am burning is
about 500mb.
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Just wanted to check.

One more thought at the moment has to do with the medium. If you are telling the software you are burning a CD then I believe it will only hold the amount of a CD or give an error. Same is true if you are tryiing to do a video CD.
Theresa K said:
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Theresa
Constructive criticism always welcome! :)
http://www.pbase.com/theresa_k
Panasonic FZ-20, Oly C-5O6O & FL-4O

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digitaldevo said:
Not sure why would error on +Rs and not +RWs.. unless like others
have said you got a bad batch of +Rs... As for Archiving purposes
+RW or -RW are the best medias.. for compatibility with standalone
players -R is the best choice.
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Since my existing software works with +RW, that's what I will use. I'm burning a slide show to sell to fellow marching band parents with profits going to the band. I guess it will just be slightly less profit. I tried the +RW in my more limited DVD player today, the one that is VERY picky about what it will play and it worked, so that's what I will use. Anybody that can't play it will just get a refund.
--
Theresa
Constructive criticism always welcome! :)
http://www.pbase.com/theresa_k
Panasonic FZ-20, Oly C-5O6O & FL-4O

 
Hi Teresa,

We have Dell PCs at work which are about 2 years old by now and were some of the first to have DVD writers in them. They are of the vintage 2.0 Ghz era with PC800 ram. Anyway, they only write to DVD+RW and not DVD+R. I was working with a Dell person to resolve the matter, but gave up as I could not afford the time to deal with the issue. I eventually did a web search on the particular model (which escapes me right now but I think they were Phillips DVD-writers). It turns out they were only meant to write to DVD+RW.

If your PC is about that old, that may be what your dealing with. If not, then you probably have a defective unit.

Thanks,

Yodog
 
mikesco said:
If you are using them to back up your photos, the only down side to
the +RW is the slower copy speed and the possibility of accidently
erasing one, (sigh; it happened to me). One of the benefits to
using +RW is from what I have read, they archive much better ( will
be readable for more years).
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Mike, Are you sure. Where did you get the information that the DVD+RW have a better longivity than the DVD+R media.
mikesco said:
But what ever format you use handle them with care, the surface can
be damaged very easily.
I would agree that more than likely, you either have a bad batch of
+R or found an incompatible brand with your player.

Mike Smith
maxwell said:
Theresa K said:
What exactly is the difference between these types of media? I
have found that my program, ProShow Gold, is refusing to write to
DVD+R (I now have about 20 coasters) but is working fine on DVD+RW.

Does anyone know why this would occur and is there a downside to
just burning them to DVD+RW
Click to expand...
I have not seen this behavior before. Have you tried any other
software to write to the +R discs or tried a different brand?
Maybe you gat a bad batch of discs.
Two possible downsides: cost and compatibility. Compatibility with
older DVD players not being able to read RW discs might be a
problem. Cost is up to you.

good luck,
Max
--
Max's Pictures and cameras: http://www.thelehmans.net/gallery

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Vernon...
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Theresa K said:
and then the computer said they were full. Totally worthlesss.

As far as the other brand/batch issue goes, I tried two different
types that have worked in the past. I think it is a software
glitch as it works on the +RW.

As far as the + - thing, I thought I could not burn to a DVD- if my
machine was a DVD+?

--
Theresa
Constructive criticism always welcome! :)
http://www.pbase.com/theresa_k
Panasonic FZ-20, Oly C-5O6O & FL-4O

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Theresa, chech the specifications of your DVD (Burner) drive. Some can handle several different types of media and then othets can not.

I would NOT want to use a media such as -R if the Drive should support only the +R media. My burner supports both + and - media but is NOT the fastest that is now available.

I prefer the +R and +RW instead of the -R and -RW. I have read the details that explain where all these different types started and which that are "suppose" to be the most compatible but I am NOT certain as to which is really the better types.
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Vernon...
http://www.pbase.com/vrain
 
Theresa K said:
digitaldevo said:
Not sure why would error on +Rs and not +RWs.. unless like others
have said you got a bad batch of +Rs... As for Archiving purposes
+RW or -RW are the best medias.. for compatibility with standalone
players -R is the best choice.
Click to expand...
Since my existing software works with +RW, that's what I will use.
I'm burning a slide show to sell to fellow marching band parents
with profits going to the band. I guess it will just be slightly
less profit. I tried the +RW in my more limited DVD player today,
the one that is VERY picky about what it will play and it worked,
so that's what I will use. Anybody that can't play it will just
get a refund.
--
Theresa
Constructive criticism always welcome! :)
http://www.pbase.com/theresa_k
Panasonic FZ-20, Oly C-5O6O & FL-4O

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I did a google search for -- HP 200j DVD Drive -- and the very first link was regarding your problem. The link is below, however; I did not read all details.

I suggest you check your manual for specifications and I believe you will find that your drive is not designed to use DVD+R media especially with selected burning software.

The manual might might have the details that will answer your drive specifications. If not, check Google or the HP site.
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/dvdrtools-users/2002-10/msg00006.html
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Vernon...
http://www.pbase.com/vrain
 
Vernon D Rainwater said:
Mike, Are you sure. Where did you get the information that the
DVD+RW have a better longivity than the DVD+R media.
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I had read an article that Phil had referenced, you can find in under the April 2004 news. It gives a link to the article, unfortunately now that it is not current and you have to pay to get it. Anyway, after having looked for it I found that it was called something like "The Myths CD-R reliability", not specifically about DVD's (as I originally thought), so perhaps it does not apply. But what it said was some of the cheaper cdr's were only found to be reliable for as little as 2 years (primarily caused by UV light). It later made a comparison with CD RW's and said that since there coatings were designed to be re-written over thousands of times, that the did not have the problems with deterioration that the CD r's did.

Personally, while DVD's and CD's are cheap and conveniant, If I was a proffesional archiving my work, I sure the heck wouldn't use any of the cd or dvd formats as my only achival method, they are way to easy to damage.

Mike Smith
 
I burned about 10 DVD's at first that worked. I don't get it. I have since burned about 20 DVD+RW's that work fine, too, but I got a lot of coasters in the process! (Not to mention about 80 that are sitting here untouched.)

--
Theresa
Constructive criticism always welcome! :)
http://www.pbase.com/theresa_k
Panasonic FZ-20, Oly C-5O6O & FL-4O

 
If DVD+RW works with the slideshow software burn one as your Master then try using Roxio, Nero or other software to copy the DVD+RW onto +R disks. If this works, then it's a software issue, if it doesn't, you have one more coaster and you pretty well know the hardware is the problem.

HP is pretty good at releasing Firmware for their devices. This may be the frimware for yours:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?product=81685&os=228&lang=en&cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&softwareitem=dv-12685-1
 
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