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Tried to buy a D70 today from Buydig and they won't accept a UK credit card even though I live in the US and the camera would be shipped to a US mainland address. And it doesn't seem like they're alone either.

I really don't see the point of that - if I walked into a store they'd accept the card so why not with a phone order ? B&H accept UK credit cards but their prices are too high.

Basically I'm a tad peeved at the idea of having to pay another $150 just to be able to buy a D70 because some retailers won't accept non-US credit cards.

Highly unimpressed and not happy at the moment....
 
Ethel said:
Tried to buy a D70 today from Buydig and they won't accept a UK
credit card even though I live in the US and the camera would be
shipped to a US mainland address. And it doesn't seem like they're
alone either.

I really don't see the point of that - if I walked into a store
they'd accept the card so why not with a phone order ? B&H accept
UK credit cards but their prices are too high.

Basically I'm a tad peeved at the idea of having to pay another
$150 just to be able to buy a D70 because some retailers won't
accept non-US credit cards.
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B&H's service is so reliable and hassle-free I feel it is worth paying the extra money to buy through them. The only time I don't is when they don't have what I want and I can't wait. Why do you think they are so successful even though their prices might be higher? Service! I've dealt with them for over 20 years and have bought tens of thousands of dollars worth of stuff with never a hassle and they've been extremely helpful when I needed technical help and have even suggested cheaper ways to go than what I thought was the way to go if they knew I was straying from the correct path for what I wanted to achieve. Pay the extra $150 and have peace of mind.
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Ethel said:
I really don't see the point of that - if I walked into a store
they'd accept the card so why not with a phone order ?
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Because ultimately, if a store has a signature on a piece of paper, the chances are that they'll get paid for the goods they've provided.

If a store has not got a signature on a piece of paper, and the transaction is disputed internationally, they might as well kiss the money good bye.

Visa and MasterCard rules are horrendously stacked against international cardholder present transactions if you're a retailer.

The company you're trying to buy from has been burned, and has had enough.

There will be other ways to pay: wire transfer, etc.

Don't blame the merchants. If you want someone to blame, look at Visa and MasterCard.

Cheers,
Nick.
 
Ethel said:
Tried to buy a D70 today from Buydig and they won't accept a UK
credit card even though I live in the US and the camera would be
shipped to a US mainland address. And it doesn't seem like they're
alone either.
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Since you live in the US, wouldn't it make sense to get a US credit card? It shouldn't be a problem, and the credit card people will issue one to anyone who's moderately warm and breathing, and in some cases they'll waive both of those requirements :-).

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Uncle Frank said:
Since you live in the US, wouldn't it make sense to
get a US credit card?
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If you're a foreigner with no credit history, it is very
hard (if not impossible) to get a US credit card.

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Living in the UK and no rebates - THATS DISCRIMINATION!
Ethel said:
Tried to buy a D70 today from Buydig and they won't accept a UK
credit card even though I live in the US and the camera would be
shipped to a US mainland address. And it doesn't seem like they're
alone either.

I really don't see the point of that - if I walked into a store
they'd accept the card so why not with a phone order ? B&H accept
UK credit cards but their prices are too high.

Basically I'm a tad peeved at the idea of having to pay another
$150 just to be able to buy a D70 because some retailers won't
accept non-US credit cards.

Highly unimpressed and not happy at the moment....
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Paolo Pizzi said:
Paolo Pizzi said:
Since you live in the US, wouldn't it make sense to
get a US credit card?
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If you're a foreigner with no credit history, it is very
hard (if not impossible) to get a US credit card.
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Ding - not worth the hassle for something which is nothing more than a pre-paid card, i.e. they don't actually give you any credit for ages, just a card which behaves like a credit card but which relies on you putting funds on it in advance.
 
I know it is not cool or fair, but most of the weird internet fraud, credit card scams, etc. tend to involve bouncing through multiple countries,

therefore many credit card processing firms may be pretty sensitive to that and not allow some merchants to accept them,

also some merchants may be hesitant with shipping things, even though the addresses match, jsut it being in the US with a UK card, know what I mean?

I can also tell you that if I accept an intl credit card my bank tends to charge an extra 5% fee, which may not be trivial to some merchants.
Ethel said:
Tried to buy a D70 today from Buydig and they won't accept a UK
credit card even though I live in the US and the camera would be
shipped to a US mainland address. And it doesn't seem like they're
alone either.

I really don't see the point of that - if I walked into a store
they'd accept the card so why not with a phone order ? B&H accept
UK credit cards but their prices are too high.

Basically I'm a tad peeved at the idea of having to pay another
$150 just to be able to buy a D70 because some retailers won't
accept non-US credit cards.

Highly unimpressed and not happy at the moment....
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I'm an American living in the UK, with UK credit card, and I have and will continue to buy from B&H because the service is so consistently good. Plus, comparing their prices to UK prices, even with customs, etc., it's a good deal. For what it's worth.

Larry
fjp said:
Ethel said:
Tried to buy a D70 today from Buydig and they won't accept a UK
credit card even though I live in the US and the camera would be
shipped to a US mainland address. And it doesn't seem like they're
alone either.

I really don't see the point of that - if I walked into a store
they'd accept the card so why not with a phone order ? B&H accept
UK credit cards but their prices are too high.

Basically I'm a tad peeved at the idea of having to pay another
$150 just to be able to buy a D70 because some retailers won't
accept non-US credit cards.
Click to expand...
B&H's service is so reliable and hassle-free I feel it is worth
paying the extra money to buy through them. The only time I don't
is when they don't have what I want and I can't wait. Why do you
think they are so successful even though their prices might be
higher? Service! I've dealt with them for over 20 years and have
bought tens of thousands of dollars worth of stuff with never a
hassle and they've been extremely helpful when I needed technical
help and have even suggested cheaper ways to go than what I thought
was the way to go if they knew I was straying from the correct path
for what I wanted to achieve. Pay the extra $150 and have peace of
mind.
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Can't say much about the CC issue, but B&H is selling the lens for $1599 and Buydig is $1569 (each has it for $20 less go figure same company) so the price difference isn't but $30.

Did I miss something? (always possible)

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RecalcitrantRon said:
Can't say much about the CC issue, but B&H is selling the lens for
$1599 and Buydig is $1569 (each has it for $20 less go figure same
company) so the price difference isn't but $30.

Did I miss something? (always possible)
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Errrrr, yes......

I was trying to buy a D70, as in the camera.... B&H = $1,299. Buydig = $1,149. So $150 difference...
 
Watch out for the old scam....

Many online retailers advertise the D70 at a real low price, but when you call, oops! We're out of stock temporarily (read: Permanently) But we'll happily sell you memory cards, spare batteries, cables, filters (at super inflated prices BTW)

Or perhaps in your case -- we can't take foreign cards on the D70!

I've learned my lessons the hard way -- trying to save a few bucks is not worth the hassles.

Get it from B&H -- they'll do ya right.

Joe
 
Joe E Baker said:
Many online retailers advertise the D70 at a real low price, but
when you call, oops! We're out of stock temporarily (read:
Permanently) But we'll happily sell you memory cards, spare
batteries, cables, filters (at super inflated prices BTW)
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Buydig.com is legit, Joe. I've bought from the several times. Check their merchant rating:

http://www.pricegrabber.com/rating_getreview.php/retid=26

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Uncle Frank said:
Uncle Frank said:
Many online retailers advertise the D70 at a real low price, but
when you call, oops! We're out of stock temporarily (read:
Permanently) But we'll happily sell you memory cards, spare
batteries, cables, filters (at super inflated prices BTW)
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Buydig.com is legit, Joe. I've bought from the several times.
Check their merchant rating:

http://www.pricegrabber.com/rating_getreview.php/retid=26

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FCAS Charter Member, Hummingbird Hunter, Egret Stalker
Dilettante Appassionato
Gallery at http://www.pbase.com/unclefrank/nikon
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Another thing some companies will do is advertise at prices way too good to be true, only they are if you don't care about a warranty or any type of software. Pay up for those and you're even with the rest. I was going to order from a company like that and then was informed that the price was for imported models that didn't have warranty/software and if I wanted that it would be $$$$$ more. The person I talked with when I called to place my order didn't even tell me this, they just quoted a different price than advertised and when I questioned them they either hung up or we got disconnected somehow. I only found out when I called the next day and spoke with someone else. Good deals are around if you shop but really great deals, ones too good to be true, probably need to be avoided. Sure you could return the purchase within a specified amount of time but then you have to pay restocking. They still make money and you lose money and wind up buying it from where you should have in the first place.
Jerry

p.s. Just got my D70 from Best Buy a few days ago and have been clicking away. Sure is fun and hope to post some pics soon if I can learn how to do it. I have searched the forum but can't find out how. Anyone willing to help out there? Thanks alot.
 
Uncle Frank said:
Buydig.com is legit, Joe. I've bought from the several times.
Check their merchant rating:

http://www.pricegrabber.com/rating_getreview.php/retid=26
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Didn't mean to impugn buydig.com, my advice was more general in nature. If the price is too good to be true, it usually is.

Some of these stores are very clever and even program bots to inflate their online merchant rating.

I'll just say that I went through the ringer trying to get my D70 for a bargain price, and I ended up having to wait weeks longer and eventually had to cancel three orders before getting it through B&H.

It consumed far more time than I should have wasted. If the deal is too good too be true -- watch out! That's the lesson I learned.

Joe
 
Joe E Baker said:
Watch out for the old scam....

Many online retailers advertise the D70 at a real low price, but
when you call, oops! We're out of stock temporarily (read:
Permanently) But we'll happily sell you memory cards, spare
batteries, cables, filters (at super inflated prices BTW)

Or perhaps in your case -- we can't take foreign cards on the D70!

I've learned my lessons the hard way -- trying to save a few bucks
is not worth the hassles.

Get it from B&H -- they'll do ya right.
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Thanks Joe.

I've spent a lot of time checking out different retailers and I've used B&H plenty of times in the past for medium format stuff when I had my Mamiya. They're just a tad "conservative" on camera prices but make up for it with the prices on filters and memory cards.

Buydig.com were the best of the online retailers I could find, based on reseller ratings and comments on this forum. But they wouldn't sell me one.

I've resigned myself to not getting the best deal on the camera itself now and I may just as well go to my local Best Buy or Ritz and buy one there. But B&H will still be getting my order for the other items such as a spare battery, memory cards, filters, etc.
 
... government run benefits? Don't you guys get free hospital stays and certain other benefits? We have to pay for it here, and many of us don't even know we'll actually get our social security benefits when we retire many years down the road even though we're required to pay 7% of our income into that potential black hole.

Let's face it. You don't just live in a different geographical location. You live in a different country w/ different economics, etc. etc. You can't expect everything to be equal w/ the USA. What will you say to people living in 3rd world countries who can't even afford to buy their next meal? And it's not because they don't want to work hard either.

Man
Ethel said:
steve johnson said:
Living in the UK and no rebates - THATS DISCRIMINATION!
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LOL !

Good point, well made....
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If you live around NYC area or in NJ, maybe it's worth a visit to Beach Camera to buy it in person, if they will give you the ~$1150 price (and NJ tax is lower). If you can visit them, call them first to make sure they'll give you the buydig.com price -- some will not give same price in person. And yes, buydig.com is an online site (the original one?) for Beach Camera.

Man
Ethel said:
Joe E Baker said:
Watch out for the old scam....

Many online retailers advertise the D70 at a real low price, but
when you call, oops! We're out of stock temporarily (read:
Permanently) But we'll happily sell you memory cards, spare
batteries, cables, filters (at super inflated prices BTW)

Or perhaps in your case -- we can't take foreign cards on the D70!

I've learned my lessons the hard way -- trying to save a few bucks
is not worth the hassles.

Get it from B&H -- they'll do ya right.
Click to expand...
Thanks Joe.

I've spent a lot of time checking out different retailers and I've
used B&H plenty of times in the past for medium format stuff when I
had my Mamiya. They're just a tad "conservative" on camera prices
but make up for it with the prices on filters and memory cards.

Buydig.com were the best of the online retailers I could find,
based on reseller ratings and comments on this forum. But they
wouldn't sell me one.

I've resigned myself to not getting the best deal on the camera
itself now and I may just as well go to my local Best Buy or Ritz
and buy one there. But B&H will still be getting my order for the
other items such as a spare battery, memory cards, filters, etc.
Click to expand...
--



Just another amateur learning to paint w/ 'the light of the world.' (John 8:12)
Motto for the season: 'Cameras are for making photos, not war...'
See my profile for more + some basic photog resources.
As usual, YMMV + caveat emptor.
Contact me at [email protected]
Indulge my fancies at http://www.pbase.com/mandnwong
 
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