monaco or gretagmacbeth ?

thinking of buying some monitor profiling equpment. would u please give your comments on if u used either the monaco optix or monaco optix pro or the gretagmacbeth eye one with the 3software and what u think of them.

Thanks Ron

Ronald Ward said:

thinking of buying some monitor profiling equpment. would u please
give your comments on if u used either the monaco optix or monaco
optix pro or the gretagmacbeth eye one with the 3software and
what u think of them.

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I have both GMB and Monaco. The Statistics are nice in Monaco, yet the quality of calibration is slightly better for GMB with the i1 Display 2. If you are to calibrate both CRT and LCD the i1 is the only solution. If it's just one or the other both are easy to use solutions that will be fine. I do like both, and the hardware is tops for both.
--
Neil Snape photographer Paris http://www.neilsnape.com

colourgeek said:

Ronald Ward said:

thinking of buying some monitor profiling equpment. would u please
give your comments on if u used either the monaco optix or monaco
optix pro or the gretagmacbeth eye one with the 3software and
what u think of them.

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I have both GMB and Monaco. The Statistics are nice in Monaco, yet
the quality of calibration is slightly better for GMB with the i1
Display 2. If you are to calibrate both CRT and LCD the i1 is the
only solution. If it's just one or the other both are easy to use
solutions that will be fine. I do like both, and the hardware is
tops for both.
--
Neil Snape photographer Paris
http://www.neilsnape.com

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Monaco handles both CRT and LCD screens. I use an older version of Monaco and am very happy with it. If price was not an issue, GMB has some high end features that would be nice to have. Alas, price does matter...

Gary

I have used both units, and even used the new imatch 3 software that just came out for the i1. The monaco produces a much more "true" profile for my viewsonic 19" monitors. The monaco is also easier to use if you are running dual montiors as it automatically detects that setup.

Drycreek.com just ran a test on all the popular units, the monaco XR, the i1 version 1 & the new i1 version 2, the spyder 2 pro. The monaco was the overall winner. There are also other comparisons, and the monaco has won every one I have looked at.

I recently also spoke with a guy in the industry and was discussing buying the eye one photo unit and asked his opinion on the best "colorimeter" on the market and he said the monaco was the best and his company sells both the i1 and the monaco. He did state the new i1 version 2 closes the gap, but the monaco is still slightly better.

My personal opinion is the i1 gave me a slight red cast on my icc profiles, whereas the monaco seemed more neutral.

Gary Hummel said:

colourgeek said:

Ronald Ward said:

thinking of buying some monitor profiling equpment. would u please
give your comments on if u used either the monaco optix or monaco
optix pro or the gretagmacbeth eye one with the 3software and
what u think of them.

Click to expand...

I have both GMB and Monaco. The Statistics are nice in Monaco, yet
the quality of calibration is slightly better for GMB with the i1
Display 2. If you are to calibrate both CRT and LCD the i1 is the
only solution. If it's just one or the other both are easy to use
solutions that will be fine. I do like both, and the hardware is
tops for both.
--
Neil Snape photographer Paris
http://www.neilsnape.com

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Monaco handles both CRT and LCD screens. I use an older version of
Monaco and am very happy with it. If price was not an issue, GMB
has some high end features that would be nice to have. Alas, price
does matter...

Gary

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When i said the i1 is the only choice for doing crt and LCD I meant and should have been more explicit; the i1 D2 does a better job on CRT/LCD match.

As far as people's opinions go both are good as I have always said. I have both, have been behind testing of both and appreciate both for what they are.

I1 Match does two or more monitors simply by moving the calibration screen to another window and always has detected dual monitors.

--
Neil Snape photographer Paris http://www.neilsnape.com

colourgeek said:

I have both GMB and Monaco. The Statistics are nice in Monaco, yet
the quality of calibration is slightly better for GMB with the i1
Display 2. If you are to calibrate both CRT and LCD the i1 is the
only solution. If it's just one or the other both are easy to use
solutions that will be fine. I do like both, and the hardware is
tops for both.

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That's my take too...
--
Andrew Rodney
Author of Color Management for Photographers
The Digital Dog
http://www.digitaldog.net

Ronald Ward said:

thinking of buying some monitor profiling equpment. would u please
give your comments on if u used either the monaco optix or monaco
optix pro or the gretagmacbeth eye one with the 3software and
what u think of them.

Click to expand...

Just to be different, and from Australia it was the cheapest solution, I bought Profile Mechanic - Monitor from http://www.dl-c.com

It works for me, it made an older Philips LCD panel useable for casual work, whereas I could not get sense out that panel with Adobe Gamma type programs.

And my Philips 201P 21" CRT is now so nice to use that I need to keep a cloth handy to wipe the occasional drool off the screen.

The Profile Mechanic kit uses the early Monaco sensor, Monaco changed sensors when bought out by X-rite (name?). My sensor has a twist off cap with either suction cups for glass and felt for LCD.

Simple to use and quick and easy to get a result, but I have no idea about how it directly compares to other products.

Regards................ Guy

colourgeek said:

Ronald Ward said:

thinking of buying some monitor profiling equpment. would u please
give your comments on if u used either the monaco optix or monaco
optix pro or the gretagmacbeth eye one with the 3software and
what u think of them.

Click to expand...

I have both GMB and Monaco. The Statistics are nice in Monaco, yet
the quality of calibration is slightly better for GMB with the i1
Display 2. If you are to calibrate both CRT and LCD the i1 is the
only solution. If it's just one or the other both are easy to use
solutions that will be fine. I do like both, and the hardware is
tops for both.?
--
Neil Snape photographer Paris
http://www.neilsnape.com

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which monao system optix or optix pro

Both the XR & XR pro use the samecolorimeter, but the pro has slightly more control in the software. If you are interested in seeing all the differences in the software, check out http://www.monaco.com

I used the Monaco XR, not the pro, as I didn't need some of the more advanced features, such as keeping an office of monitors in sync, and seeing monitor profile drift over time...

Ronald Ward said:

colourgeek said:

Ronald Ward said:

thinking of buying some monitor profiling equpment. would u please
give your comments on if u used either the monaco optix or monaco
optix pro or the gretagmacbeth eye one with the 3software and
what u think of them.

Click to expand...

I have both GMB and Monaco. The Statistics are nice in Monaco, yet
the quality of calibration is slightly better for GMB with the i1
Display 2. If you are to calibrate both CRT and LCD the i1 is the
only solution. If it's just one or the other both are easy to use
solutions that will be fine. I do like both, and the hardware is
tops for both.?
--
Neil Snape photographer Paris
http://www.neilsnape.com

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which monao system optix or optix pro

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If you are doing just your monitor and not paper/printer combinations then both are fine. But, I also profile my printer and the I1 is hands above the other one.

IMHO, just profiling your monitor solves only half the problem. The added expense of being able to accurately profile your monitor and printer/paper combinations is well worth it in my opinion. Also, profiling both accurately eliminates printer frustration/time spent trying to print something that looked like what you saw on your monitor.

BP

Guy Parsons said:

Ronald Ward said:

thinking of buying some monitor profiling equpment. would u please
give your comments on if u used either the monaco optix or monaco
optix pro or the gretagmacbeth eye one with the 3software and
what u think of them.

Click to expand...

Just to be different, and from Australia it was the cheapest
solution, I bought Profile Mechanic - Monitor from http://www.dl-c.com

It works for me, it made an older Philips LCD panel useable for
casual work, whereas I could not get sense out that panel with
Adobe Gamma type programs.

And my Philips 201P 21" CRT is now so nice to use that I need to
keep a cloth handy to wipe the occasional drool off the screen.

The Profile Mechanic kit uses the early Monaco sensor, Monaco
changed sensors when bought out by X-rite (name?). My sensor has a
twist off cap with either suction cups for glass and felt for LCD.

Simple to use and quick and easy to get a result, but I have no
idea about how it directly compares to other products.

Regards................ Guy

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ByronP said:

IMHO, just profiling your monitor solves only half the problem.

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Yes, of course.

Very early I obtained Profile Prism and using an Epson 2450 flatbed scanner made printer profiles that worked for me. And the screen I left to Adobe Gamma type programs to get sort of near the mark.

But, now I wanted to get a bit more serious about print quality and being better able to properly evaluate a file before I put it on paper I then stepped out to get the monitor profile gear. Plus of course an LCD screen came into my life (not used for serious printing) and those things are dogs and need all the help you can get to get somewhere near maybe 90% correct (move your head and lose calibration).

Summary... get printer profiles sorted out first along with software screen calibration, later splash out on proper screen calibration equipment (and use a good CRT screen). For serious home printing there is no other way.

Regards.............. Guy

Damn. I just bought the Gretag Macbeth Eye One 2.

Which is best for LCD? I have an apple 20".

Thanks,
Diane

If you get the Monaco Optix, get the PRO model only.

Right now you can get the "Pro" for the price of the regular Optix.

Check: http://www.xritephoto.com/product/optixxr/

and download the discount coupon whereby you can get the Optix PRO upgrad free.

Bob

Ronald Ward said:

thinking of buying some monitor profiling equpment. would u please
give your comments on if u used either the monaco optix or monaco
optix pro or the gretagmacbeth eye one with the 3software and
what u think of them.

Thanks Ron

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Bob

Here's my choice.

http://www.chromix.com/ColorGear/shop/12037/productdetail.cxsa?toolid=1122&num=36&refcode=cmpgen&-session=txC492C731913131394qQQs566FF0

The DTP94 is the same as the Optix XR.

The ColorEyes Display software gives the user more control and options if your not the push one but and calibrate type.

Free demo can be used 9 times within 6 days.

http://www.integrated-color.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=ICC&Category_Code=DL

Bob,

Why would I want the PRO model only? It seems to me the hardware is the same, but the software adds some features for when I'm working with multiple sets of output devices. Or am I missing something.

I guess my question is: why would I need the PRO model as a home user?

Pascal.

I use Optix XR for profiling my LCD monitor. Perfectly happy with the results. Also a little light for my pocket. normancamera.com for only $180 + shipping.