Wow!! My 2100 hopelessly outdated :-((

webdog · May 23, 2001

The new Minolta Dimage 7 was sooo much better than expected.

It adresses ALL my complaints on the 2100. The only drawback (for me that is) is the 200 mm full zoom and no IS. Mechanical control of zoom and focus, not the fly-by-wire!

If this is for real I will start save for a new x-mas gift to myself righ now!

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D7/D70A.HTM

I guess the engineers at Oly an Nikon having a lot of overtime to come! ;-)

WD

cdreid · May 23, 2001

The low zoom is a pretty big drawback. No IS is a HUGE drawback. But

FIVE MEGAPIXEL. Wow. The idiots should have made it an slr w interchangeable lenses. Looks like a great addition to the c2100 actually.

2100 for ultra zooming. Dimage for everything else. Hopefully it will drop to 6 or 700 within the next year or two

WebDog said:
The new Minolta Dimage 7 was sooo much better than expected.
It adresses ALL my complaints on the 2100. The only drawback (for
me that is) is the 200 mm full zoom and no IS. Mechanical control
of zoom and focus, not the fly-by-wire!

If this is for real I will start save for a new x-mas gift to
myself righ now!

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D7/D70A.HTM

I guess the engineers at Oly an Nikon having a lot of overtime to
come! ;-)

WD

webdog · May 23, 2001

Did you notice that the filter threads are 49 mm? Guess it is compatible with the B300.

The ferromagnetic LCD view finder seem like a real killer too.

I guess the reason for not producing a SLR/interchangeable lens system is the very same as for the E-10. Dust amost others! Apparently the lens is of really outstanding quality and really outshines the E-10 in resolution. Guess we have to wait to see how the finalized product will perform. I bet the will sell like hotcakes.
WD

Charles Reid said:
The low zoom is a pretty big drawback. No IS is a HUGE drawback. But
FIVE MEGAPIXEL. Wow. The idiots should have made it an slr w
interchangeable lenses. Looks like a great addition to the c2100
actually.
2100 for ultra zooming. Dimage for everything else. Hopefully it
will drop to 6 or 700 within the next year or two

Gary43618 · May 23, 2001

What will happen, is that you'll wait and save up for the Minolta, then you'll buy it, then by that time some other fancy camera will come out and wow you. And that one will be sooo much better. A vicious cycle.

WebDog said:
The new Minolta Dimage 7 was sooo much better than expected.
It adresses ALL my complaints on the 2100. The only drawback (for
me that is) is the 200 mm full zoom and no IS. Mechanical control
of zoom and focus, not the fly-by-wire!

If this is for real I will start save for a new x-mas gift to
myself righ now!

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D7/D70A.HTM

I guess the engineers at Oly an Nikon having a lot of overtime to
come! ;-)

WD

cdreid · May 23, 2001

And its a vicious cycle we'll keep repeating til we have enough money.. and know we're doing it hehe

Gary said:
WebDog said:

The new Minolta Dimage 7 was sooo much better than expected.
It adresses ALL my complaints on the 2100. The only drawback (for
me that is) is the 200 mm full zoom and no IS. Mechanical control
of zoom and focus, not the fly-by-wire!

If this is for real I will start save for a new x-mas gift to
myself righ now!

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D7/D70A.HTM

I guess the engineers at Oly an Nikon having a lot of overtime to
come! ;-)

WD

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Aguru · May 23, 2001

I'll save for the Minolta Dimage 7 but I'll keep my Oly 2100 uz for sure. I also have some minor concerns. The Minolta "looks" somewhat unbalanced because the grip's side seems to be smaller & lighter, especially with the batteries in the other side. Furthermore, the CCD sits on top of the batteries that may heat up causing noise. It'd be nice to rule out these concerns by tests.

Randy Rovang · May 23, 2001

5 megapixels and no firewire port???

other than that....

D R O O L............ =)

-randy

buzzy2 · May 23, 2001

WebDog said:
The new Minolta Dimage 7 was sooo much better than expected.
It adresses ALL my complaints on the 2100. The only drawback (for
me that is) is the 200 mm full zoom and no IS. Mechanical control
of zoom and focus, not the fly-by-wire!

If this is for real I will start save for a new x-mas gift to
myself righ now!

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D7/D70A.HTM

I guess the engineers at Oly an Nikon having a lot of overtime to
come! ;-)

WD

...don't feel bad... I'm hopelessly outdated as well...
...all the cute young things look right past me to the "newer" models...
... sigh ...oh well...'twasnt always so... =)
newby

Mike Diamond · May 23, 2001

newby said:
...don't feel bad... I'm hopelessly outdated as well...
...all the cute young things look right past me to the "newer"
models...
... sigh ...oh well...'twasnt always so... =)
newby

I share the problem, however I look at it as being well broken in.

When enough people have broken in the new Minolta, I will possibly take a look at it, however maybe Oly will counter with the E-20? Anything is possible!

Mike D.

Chris Toner · May 23, 2001

Hi Webdog,

Much the same reaction here, though if you think about it with 1.6x the number of pixels on both sides the Minoltas 200mm would be equal to the 2100's 320mm but I guess then you hit the problem of no IS. At least it looks as if I might be able to carry over a few of my lens accessories to it if I decide to splash out later. Anyhow as it's not likely to hit the Uk for a few months in any numbers I guess I'll just have to enjoy a summer of shooting with my 2100 - not exactly a hardship!

Cheers,

Chris.

PS Review seems to say that the focussing is fly by wire but it looks a little more convenient than the Olys buttons.

WebDog said:
The new Minolta Dimage 7 was sooo much better than expected.
It adresses ALL my complaints on the 2100. The only drawback (for
me that is) is the 200 mm full zoom and no IS. Mechanical control
of zoom and focus, not the fly-by-wire!

If this is for real I will start save for a new x-mas gift to
myself righ now!

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D7/D70A.HTM

I guess the engineers at Oly an Nikon having a lot of overtime to
come! ;-)

WD

HR · May 23, 2001

What is it, exactly, that outdates your 2100?
"Outdate" is a pretty strong expression ...

HR

WebDog said:
The new Minolta Dimage 7 was sooo much better than expected.
It adresses ALL my complaints on the 2100. The only drawback (for
me that is) is the 200 mm full zoom and no IS. Mechanical control
of zoom and focus, not the fly-by-wire!

If this is for real I will start save for a new x-mas gift to
myself righ now!

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D7/D70A.HTM

I guess the engineers at Oly an Nikon having a lot of overtime to
come! ;-)

WD

misha · May 23, 2001

WebDog said:
The new Minolta Dimage 7 was sooo much better than expected.
It adresses ALL my complaints on the 2100. The only drawback (for
me that is) is the 200 mm full zoom and no IS. Mechanical control
of zoom and focus, not the fly-by-wire!

If this is for real I will start save for a new x-mas gift to
myself righ now!

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D7/D70A.HTM

I guess the engineers at Oly an Nikon having a lot of overtime to
come! ;-)

WD

Well, the 2100 is close to $600 at some online stores, Minolta is $1500 (that's 2.5x) and no shipping date yet - and by Christmas there'll certainly be more comparable cameras available.

Misha

aee · May 23, 2001

webdog said:
200 mm full zoom and no IS.

The C2100's burst mode is nothing to sneeze at either. With all those pixels to slog around, the D7 is understandably slower (and cannot buffer as many pictures).

They each have their strengths.

kdixey · May 23, 2001

Well, I have an old Olymous D500 and it still gets used (albeit not as much as my 2100 or 2020). I don't know that the difference between the Minolta and the 2100 is soooo radically improved.

Kevin

aee said:
aee said:

200 mm full zoom and no IS.

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The C2100's burst mode is nothing to sneeze at either. With all
those pixels to slog around, the D7 is understandably slower (and
cannot buffer as many pictures).

They each have their strengths.

webdog · May 23, 2001

Hi newby
Guess it makes us two then.... ;-))

With new groundbreaking models are coming every 6-8 months now it's easy feel outdated.
CU
WD

newby said:
WebDog said:

The new Minolta Dimage 7 was sooo much better than expected.
It adresses ALL my complaints on the 2100. The only drawback (for
me that is) is the 200 mm full zoom and no IS. Mechanical control
of zoom and focus, not the fly-by-wire!

If this is for real I will start save for a new x-mas gift to
myself righ now!

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D7/D70A.HTM

I guess the engineers at Oly an Nikon having a lot of overtime to
come! ;-)

WD

Click to expand...

...don't feel bad... I'm hopelessly outdated as well...
...all the cute young things look right past me to the "newer"
models...
... sigh ...oh well...'twasnt always so... =)
newby

webdog · May 23, 2001

HR,

you're right, outdated might be too strong. But when shelling out 1100 bucks for a "state of the art" camera just find the price drops like a rock a few weeks later leaves a slightly sour taste... I guess the reason is that the new models are already in the hall waiting to be lauched. Minolta just was the first to fork it out.

It will be fun thou to see what the others will come up with

Cheers
WD

HR said:
What is it, exactly, that outdates your 2100?
"Outdate" is a pretty strong expression ...

HR

Dave Knadler · May 23, 2001

WebDog said:
The new Minolta Dimage 7 was sooo much better than expected.

Huh? I see just two things of interest: an EVF you can actually use for focusing, and a focus ring on the lens. The extra resolution will be useless for most folks who already have a 3.3mp camera.

I dunno, given the clunky design, it doesn't seem all that alluring for a next-generation machine.

Forrest41926 · May 23, 2001

Member said:
Huh? I see just two things of interest: an EVF you can actually use
for focusing, and a focus ring on the lens. The extra resolution
will be useless for most folks who already have a 3.3mp camera.

Plus the 12 bit ADC ... we'll see if it delivers all the dynamic range my 2100 is lacking. Blown out highlights in mostly-shadow shots have been bothering me since I went digital... I really like the idea of a lens that goes from a pretty wide angle to a moderate telephoto, especially with a manual zoom ring.

Member said:
I dunno, given the clunky design, it doesn't seem all that alluring
for a next-generation machine.

I could put up with the clunky design if: (1) the camera lives up to it's potential and (2) the price drops enough to be affordable.

John R. · May 23, 2001

Hey Forrest, And if they add 10X with IS and focus assist light.

John R.

Forrest said:
Forrest41926 said:

Huh? I see just two things of interest: an EVF you can actually use
for focusing, and a focus ring on the lens. The extra resolution
will be useless for most folks who already have a 3.3mp camera.

Click to expand...

Plus the 12 bit ADC ... we'll see if it delivers all the dynamic
range my 2100 is lacking. Blown out highlights in mostly-shadow
shots have been bothering me since I went digital... I really like
the idea of a lens that goes from a pretty wide angle to a moderate
telephoto, especially with a manual zoom ring.

Forrest41926 said:

I dunno, given the clunky design, it doesn't seem all that alluring
for a next-generation machine.

Click to expand...

I could put up with the clunky design if: (1) the camera lives up
to it's potential and (2) the price drops enough to be affordable.

buzzy2 · May 23, 2001

John R. said:
Hey Forrest, And if they add 10X with IS and focus assist light.

John R.

...I think that's the one Oly is working on now...to be named the "Olyak 3100 24/7 HyperZoom"...
newby

John R. said:
Forrest said:

John R. said:

Huh? I see just two things of interest: an EVF you can actually use
for focusing, and a focus ring on the lens. The extra resolution
will be useless for most folks who already have a 3.3mp camera.

Click to expand...

Plus the 12 bit ADC ... we'll see if it delivers all the dynamic
range my 2100 is lacking. Blown out highlights in mostly-shadow
shots have been bothering me since I went digital... I really like
the idea of a lens that goes from a pretty wide angle to a moderate
telephoto, especially with a manual zoom ring.

John R. said:

I dunno, given the clunky design, it doesn't seem all that alluring
for a next-generation machine.

Click to expand...

I could put up with the clunky design if: (1) the camera lives up
to it's potential and (2) the price drops enough to be affordable.

Click to expand...

Wow!! My 2100 hopelessly outdated :-((

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