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We shoot digital portraits all the time in the studio with flash packs.
we tested the S1 and the D30 together, under the same circumstances.

In our tests, the D30 was harder to set up to get a natural skintone, and tended to lose highlight detail. We found the operating sysyem 'fiddly' and so
chose the S1. We're very happy with it too!

--Andy
 
Andy said:
We shoot digital portraits all the time in the studio with flash
packs.
we tested the S1 and the D30 together, under the same circumstances.

In our tests, the D30 was harder to set up to get a natural
skintone, and tended to lose highlight detail. We found the
operating sysyem 'fiddly' and so
chose the S1. We're very happy with it too!

--
Andy
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Your findings are not surprising. The dynamic range tests Phil did with Michael Chaney (Digital Domain/Qimage) confirm the S1's superiority here, and my own tests confirm (for me) that the color balance on skin tones (I shoot "original" tone and color, sharpening "off", tiff format) is absolutely perfect - better than I ever got with ANY film. The only post production adjustments I might need to make are saturation and curves/levels, then aspect ratio cropping, GF-ing to 300ppi print size, and final (careful) sharpening. The workflow with the S1 is VERY efficient, and the resulting image excellent!

Here is a crop of a very problematic shot (before ANY processing, except for downsizing and jpegging for display here), where I though the S1 performed admirably. (It's not a studio shot, but the same camera capabilities are in evidence.):

 
Robert Smith said:
Andy said:
We shoot digital portraits all the time in the studio with flash
packs.
we tested the S1 and the D30 together, under the same circumstances.

In our tests, the D30 was harder to set up to get a natural
skintone, and tended to lose highlight detail. We found the
operating sysyem 'fiddly' and so
chose the S1. We're very happy with it too!

--
Andy
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Your findings are not surprising. The dynamic range tests Phil did
with Michael Chaney (Digital Domain/Qimage) confirm the S1's
superiority here, and my own tests confirm (for me) that the color
balance on skin tones (I shoot "original" tone and color,
sharpening "off", tiff format) is absolutely perfect - better than
I ever got with ANY film. The only post production adjustments I
might need to make are saturation and curves/levels, then aspect
ratio cropping, GF-ing to 300ppi print size, and final (careful)
sharpening. The workflow with the S1 is VERY efficient, and the
resulting image excellent!

Here is a crop of a very problematic shot (before ANY processing,
except for downsizing and jpegging for display here), where I
though the S1 performed admirably. (It's not a studio shot, but the
same camera capabilities are in evidence.):

Click to expand...
As a studio owner and photographer I was not able to test both the D30 and S1 . Spending much time in this and other information locations had to make a decision which camera to go with. I do believe for me doing studio and location people portrait work that the S1 was going to do the job. Now after 4 months of using the S1 I am very happy with the results. Time is money and 2 things I was most concerned with was accurate skin tones and very little or no post image manipulation. I am now starting to convert my studio from film to digital. I have done 40 all digital sittings this past month alone and with great excitement and confidence I love picking up the S1 every day. Now I just need to find a pro lab that can handle the volume of business I have and deliver the quality images that the S1 captures. You never get a second chance to make a first impression and with the S1 I can count on it the first time.

John
 
Radu Grozescu said:
Radu Grozescu said:
We shoot digital portraits all the time in the studio
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I would like to know which settings: Tone, Colour, Sharpening,
Resolution, File format, you and other pro are using when taking
portraits.

Thank you for your time,

Radu Grozescu
http://www.RaduGrozescu.com
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I would also like to know. I have found the best results using "Original" Color and Tone, and Sharpness OFF. I record in the camera in TIFF mode. When I process the image in-computer (Photoshop), I work in, and print from, the Adobe RGB color space (without any monitor compensation, mainly because I don't have the right correction information entered into my computer). I usually end up increasing saturation 20 to 30 percent, and if my white balance is correct at capture, I don't need to fiddle with color balance at all. I carefully sharpen after sizing my image for print to 300ppi with GF.
 
Radu Grozescu said:
Radu Grozescu said:
(Photoshop), I work in, and print from, the Adobe RGB color space
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Thank you for the colour space info.

You forgot to tell us the resolution: 3040 or 2304 :-)

Thank you again,

Radu Grozescu
http://www.RaduGrozescu.com
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In studio I use M 125 F8 org. color stnd tone. stnd sharp. Fine Jpeg. Auto WB. I find in Photoshop only slight adjustments in saturation sometimes and use Select color range to make adj. Outdoors same except I shoot mostly Shutter priority W/Fill Flash. prints up to 13x19 on 2000P epson look great ! I prefer not to sharpen image in PS unless I singulary sharpen the eyes.

John
 
Radu Grozescu said:
Radu Grozescu said:
We shoot digital portraits all the time in the studio
Click to expand...
I would like to know which settings: Tone, Colour, Sharpening,
Resolution, File format, you and other pro are using when taking
portraits.

Thank you for your time,

Radu Grozescu
http://www.RaduGrozescu.com
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Hi Radu,

Sorry for the delay, I have only just returned from judging the australian professional photography awards for the last 3 days.
Fascinating to meet so many photographers so concerned about digital capture.

my settings in the studio are iso 320, jpeg F, 3040,std color, std tone, std sharpening. works very well, usually adding an unsharp mask in photoshop
@ 130 %, radius 1.5, threshold 8

hope this is useful.

Andy
 
Andy,

I find your settings strange...are they for webimages or prints?

Do you rellly use threshold 8??? I think that if you go above 3 the whole image is affected.

regards,

bjorn
Andy said:
Radu Grozescu said:
andrew campbell said:
We shoot digital portraits all the time in the studio
Click to expand...
I would like to know which settings: Tone, Colour, Sharpening,
Resolution, File format, you and other pro are using when taking
portraits.

Thank you for your time,

Radu Grozescu
http://www.RaduGrozescu.com
Click to expand...
Hi Radu,
Sorry for the delay, I have only just returned from judging the
australian professional photography awards for the last 3 days.
Fascinating to meet so many photographers so concerned about
digital capture.

my settings in the studio are iso 320, jpeg F, 3040,std color, std
tone, std sharpening. works very well, usually adding an unsharp
mask in photoshop
@ 130 %, radius 1.5, threshold 8

hope this is useful.

Andy
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Try: org - org - off - off
Raul
John said:
Radu Grozescu said:
JHF said:
(Photoshop), I work in, and print from, the Adobe RGB color space
Click to expand...
Thank you for the colour space info.

You forgot to tell us the resolution: 3040 or 2304 :-)

Thank you again,

Radu Grozescu
http://www.RaduGrozescu.com
Click to expand...
In studio I use M 125 F8 org. color stnd tone. stnd sharp. Fine
Jpeg. Auto WB. I find in Photoshop only slight adjustments in
saturation sometimes and use Select color range to make adj.
Outdoors same except I shoot mostly Shutter priority W/Fill Flash.
prints up to 13x19 on 2000P epson look great ! I prefer not to
sharpen image in PS unless I singulary sharpen the eyes.

John
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I think you got it backword. The smaller the threshold, the more pixels will be sharpened. If you use threshold 0, all the pixels will be sharpened. If you use a large threshold, only the edge will be sharpened, this can avoid bringing up the noise.

xin
Bjorn Bergman - Sweden said:
I find your settings strange...are they for webimages or prints?
Do you rellly use threshold 8??? I think that if you go above 3
the whole image is affected.

regards,

bjorn
Andy said:
Radu Grozescu said:
photo2be said:
We shoot digital portraits all the time in the studio
Click to expand...
I would like to know which settings: Tone, Colour, Sharpening,
Resolution, File format, you and other pro are using when taking
portraits.

Thank you for your time,

Radu Grozescu
http://www.RaduGrozescu.com
Click to expand...
Hi Radu,
Sorry for the delay, I have only just returned from judging the
australian professional photography awards for the last 3 days.
Fascinating to meet so many photographers so concerned about
digital capture.

my settings in the studio are iso 320, jpeg F, 3040,std color, std
tone, std sharpening. works very well, usually adding an unsharp
mask in photoshop
@ 130 %, radius 1.5, threshold 8

hope this is useful.

Andy
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