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S3 Sample Photos Extracted from the Brochure!
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bossnas
Leading Member
Nice images. I'd be interested to know how much post processing went into them.
Cheers
Nas
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Cheers
Nas
--Somebody have extracted the following image files from the S3 Pro
brochure:
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I reserve the right to an opinion
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very nice photos, if these are straight from the camera, just resized
Somebody have extracted the following image files from the S3 Pro
brochure:
Beki Photo
Member
dosik2.
Thank you very much for making us aware of the larger images - I'm very pleased with the results!
With best wishes.
Beki
Thank you very much for making us aware of the larger images - I'm very pleased with the results!
With best wishes.
Beki
Somebody have extracted the following image files from the S3 Pro
brochure:
Dear Beki,
Thanks for the acknowledgement.
As you have witnessed, the photo quality is very good. However, I was shocked only after I compared the photos with other photos generated either by scanners or digital cameras.
I am using TFT LCD monitors and EIZO Flexscan CRT monitors. It doesn't show the dynamic range and naturality of color on TFT LCD. However, on EIZO CRT monitor, I can see the dynamic range improvement. Especially, the wedding dress photo shows incredible details on the lace. Actually, I didn't think that was that remarkable until I compared it with other existing photos.
For me, to watch these photos was a stunning experience.
Thanks for the acknowledgement.
As you have witnessed, the photo quality is very good. However, I was shocked only after I compared the photos with other photos generated either by scanners or digital cameras.
I am using TFT LCD monitors and EIZO Flexscan CRT monitors. It doesn't show the dynamic range and naturality of color on TFT LCD. However, on EIZO CRT monitor, I can see the dynamic range improvement. Especially, the wedding dress photo shows incredible details on the lace. Actually, I didn't think that was that remarkable until I compared it with other existing photos.
For me, to watch these photos was a stunning experience.
Hi dosik,
The second one is my favorite. I can't believe the great detail in the hair. Awesome. Who knows, this may turn out to be a good camera after all.
I just don't understand why it is taking so loooooooong to review a camera. Do you?
Melissa
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The second one is my favorite. I can't believe the great detail in the hair. Awesome. Who knows, this may turn out to be a good camera after all.
I just don't understand why it is taking so loooooooong to review a camera. Do you?
Melissa
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Hi, Melissa,
Actually, the second photo is my favorate too. The color is also very vibrant and transparent. But, the first photo shows the strength of S3 more in my opinion despite the second one is more interested due to colors. On a good monitor, the lace of the dress has real details. I didn't appreciate it at the beginning with my notebook (my notebook has a topic quality LCD.) But, after comparing the photos with other photos, I really come to appreciate the photos more.
I don't think these photos are directly from the camera. I think the author of them did some supreme post processing. However, if the camera is not capable, I don't think it is possible to make a photo like the second one. The color is extremely vibrant and yet has wide range of tone. So it can't be a result of significant postprocessing such as contrasting. Anyway, S3 pro allows such good results with some amount of post processing.
I believe we can expect extremely nice image quality from S3 pro. After watching many photos by S3 pro floating around, I could say that 1. it produces very transparent colors, 2. the colors very natural even if they might be a little more saturated than real colors, 3. dynamic range is really better than other cameras, and 4. the noise level is still excellent.
So long time to review? I don't exactly get what you mean.
In the case of long development cycle, I can understand it as an engineer. In the case of Canon, they produces new cameras very quickly. First of all, Canon is a big company capable of hugh investment. Secondly, Canon's image quality didn't show that dramatic improvement after D60 despite the improvement of resolution and body functions. Improvement of resolution is not a real novel technology but is just a manufacturing achievement of the same technology.
However, Fujifilm has developed new type of sensor. So 2-year period, despite a little too long for us, customers, can be understandable as an engineer.
In any case, I am really glad to see some tangible results from S3 pro after so long wait.
Actually, the second photo is my favorate too. The color is also very vibrant and transparent. But, the first photo shows the strength of S3 more in my opinion despite the second one is more interested due to colors. On a good monitor, the lace of the dress has real details. I didn't appreciate it at the beginning with my notebook (my notebook has a topic quality LCD.) But, after comparing the photos with other photos, I really come to appreciate the photos more.
I don't think these photos are directly from the camera. I think the author of them did some supreme post processing. However, if the camera is not capable, I don't think it is possible to make a photo like the second one. The color is extremely vibrant and yet has wide range of tone. So it can't be a result of significant postprocessing such as contrasting. Anyway, S3 pro allows such good results with some amount of post processing.
I believe we can expect extremely nice image quality from S3 pro. After watching many photos by S3 pro floating around, I could say that 1. it produces very transparent colors, 2. the colors very natural even if they might be a little more saturated than real colors, 3. dynamic range is really better than other cameras, and 4. the noise level is still excellent.
So long time to review? I don't exactly get what you mean.
In the case of long development cycle, I can understand it as an engineer. In the case of Canon, they produces new cameras very quickly. First of all, Canon is a big company capable of hugh investment. Secondly, Canon's image quality didn't show that dramatic improvement after D60 despite the improvement of resolution and body functions. Improvement of resolution is not a real novel technology but is just a manufacturing achievement of the same technology.
However, Fujifilm has developed new type of sensor. So 2-year period, despite a little too long for us, customers, can be understandable as an engineer.
In any case, I am really glad to see some tangible results from S3 pro after so long wait.
FlossTycoon
Senior Member
I live out here in the sticks in western Montana and have not been able to lay my hands or cursor on this S3 brochure. Does anyone have a link to this brochure? Thanks for the help.
If the actual photos are this good then the S3 is certainly one of the cameras on my short list.
If the actual photos are this good then the S3 is certainly one of the cameras on my short list.
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Rinus Borgsteede
Guest
I had a look at these images and they are very well done. All these images are under well controlled lighting and could have been done on pretty much any camera. The detail in the dress in the first image can be improved even more with the Photoshop H+S tool at default settings. The down sampling has left fuzzy areas and not so sharp images.
I sure hope we get to see some real full size images similar to these soon. I hope even more that the images will not be under controlled lighting so that we will see what the S3 is all about.
Rinus of Calgary/Kelowna
I sure hope we get to see some real full size images similar to these soon. I hope even more that the images will not be under controlled lighting so that we will see what the S3 is all about.
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Robert Whiteman
Senior Member
The Second shot shows decent resolution, pretty much equal to the S2.
To my eyes the canyon photo doesn't look so special and the sky almost looks added. It just looks like it's under a different light and there's some blown highlights in the clouds. I get as much DR from the S2 shooting jpeg as seen here:
Yes, I used a ND Grad over the sky but who doesn't? No blown highlights with jpeg, RAW would have been better. This trip to Bryce taught me that.
I too would like some samples that show the S3 in more difficult situations with side-by-side comparisons from other cameras. I'd like to know if the wait will be worth it since I'm looking to get a second body very soon. I was hoping before the end of the year for tax reasons. If I just get another S2 (not interested in D70) I can also get a 12-24 Sigma which I could really use. Otherwise it's the S3 only after December most likely.
Hmmmmm....I really could use that 12-24.
What to do?!
Robert
FlossTycoon
Senior Member
Has anyone been able to confirm that these posted photos are actually what they are being offered as? Did they come from official Fuji sources or are they a hoax?
Thanks
Alan
Thanks
Alan
Robert Whiteman
Senior Member
Let me relate somethiing told to me by a fellow camera club member years back before digital....
While on vacation, Harry was out in the woods getting nature photos when he happened upon another Hassy user all set up on a nice shot of a snowplant. They started chatting and Harry found out that the guy worked for Canon as a PR guy. So Harry sizes up the situation and asks outright if they (Canon) used his MF shots to sell there 35mm gear and without blinking the guy says: "yes". All the time.
Are these shots from the "S3" real? Someone knows for sure but it's not me.
Robert
arcorban
Member
Hi Robert,
The shot you posted is beautiful and just reinforces how good the S2 can be with such little effort.
In a way I think you have answered your own questions with your observations.
With the utmost respect for your observations I'd offer you a different way of looking at these shots.
While the copy on the image says it was shot Raw, I suggest that that was just a precaution. I certainly shoot RAW when I am shooting an important job.
In the S3Pro the camera can automatically dial up the appropriate amount of R pixel compensation. (Note; this is the same functionality that already exists in the humble S20). So it is entirely concievable that the shot was processed 'as shot' from the RAW FILE CONVERTER.
(As a side note, yep any camera in ideal conditions and shooting raw can be made to look good).
So it is also concievable that this kind of result is what you should be able to expect when shooting JPEGs straight from the camera.
And that, I believe is Fujifilm's key objective with the S3. To free us from feeling we must shoot RAW to get the best from the camera.
You choose to shoot RAW rather than have to, and only if you think you really need to cover your a$$.
I agree that some of the highlights are blown. Not making excuses but remember these are extracted from a brochure which I would speculate was a PDF.
That probably means these shots have been through a couple of generations including a conversion to CMYK for the original layout. That would sap a lot of goodness from the images.
Just a speculation but if that is the case they are holding up remakably well.
Otherwise it's
New stuff and a back up too. What more could you ask for?
Regards
Anthony
The shot you posted is beautiful and just reinforces how good the S2 can be with such little effort.
In a way I think you have answered your own questions with your observations.
With the utmost respect for your observations I'd offer you a different way of looking at these shots.
Given the composition of the canyon shot, I am intrigued as to how you could or would employ a grad to help DR in this shot without adversly affecting exposure across the frame.
Once again, as I look at the canyon shot, how much more difficult a lighting situation could you find?
While the copy on the image says it was shot Raw, I suggest that that was just a precaution. I certainly shoot RAW when I am shooting an important job.
In the S3Pro the camera can automatically dial up the appropriate amount of R pixel compensation. (Note; this is the same functionality that already exists in the humble S20). So it is entirely concievable that the shot was processed 'as shot' from the RAW FILE CONVERTER.
(As a side note, yep any camera in ideal conditions and shooting raw can be made to look good).
So it is also concievable that this kind of result is what you should be able to expect when shooting JPEGs straight from the camera.
And that, I believe is Fujifilm's key objective with the S3. To free us from feeling we must shoot RAW to get the best from the camera.
You choose to shoot RAW rather than have to, and only if you think you really need to cover your a$$.
I agree that some of the highlights are blown. Not making excuses but remember these are extracted from a brochure which I would speculate was a PDF.
That probably means these shots have been through a couple of generations including a conversion to CMYK for the original layout. That would sap a lot of goodness from the images.
Just a speculation but if that is the case they are holding up remakably well.
Otherwise it's
I reckon keep the S2 and get both the S3 and the 12-24.
New stuff and a back up too. What more could you ask for?
Regards
Anthony
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Rinus Borgsteede
Guest
I am sure that selling a camera requires only images that "could" have been shot by that camera. Photographs result from combination of many factors that are controlled by the photographer. Outside inside, timing can bring it all together for the most novice of shooters. In my workshops the student beside me gets the same result as me as I am doing my job of teaching. He may own a better or worse camera, he may shoot with an old Pentax K1000 or a newer Digital camera. The end result may not differ as much due to the expert approach. So looking at samples is a actually a bit of a waste of time unless you really know the source.
I have images that can compete with whatever is on the market but if I do not tell the camera I've used, you may be more or less impressed than if I told you. My original S1 images were fantastic quality at that time and the lighting would never reveal the limited dynamic range I was shooting with. I had to show non believers that they were for real but if posted on the web, nobody knew I was telling the truth. People see what they want to see!
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