Derek J. Mendez
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Thanks Ahto - so it won't charge the AC Delco batteries? Too bad because that's what I just ordered today.
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Trip with G1 but no electricity?
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There are lots of places that'll develop with photo-CD, photo-floppy, or photos-on-line options, though.
David S20661
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Get the auto adapter and 2-3 spare batteries. If you're worried about sharing power with other people in a vehicle, think ahead for them and bring along a 2 or 3 way splitter. (cheap and light) and if you run across a vehicle without a cigarette lighter, rig up a couple of clips to attach the cig adapter directly to the car battery. 3 batteries and judicious use of the LCD will get you well over 1000 shots. Also if you need to review your shots, do it in the vehicle while plugged in, that way you can delete shots without wasting the battery.
BTW the charger can replenish 2 batteries in about 3 hours... (with a splitter to share power with others your batteries are always charging) and you can rotate batteries as soon as one shows a full charge.
you may also want to guess at how many shots per minute or per hour you plan on taking. I recently came back from a shooting with about 1000 shots, I actually shot more and deleted quite a few. (I also have the G-1, with a 1gig and 340 microdrive) My shooting time was about 14 hours straight through. if you do the math... 1000/(14*60)=1.2 shots per minute....Needless to say, with a shooting average well over 1 pic per minute, everyone started to look at me funny.
good luck
david s
BTW the charger can replenish 2 batteries in about 3 hours... (with a splitter to share power with others your batteries are always charging) and you can rotate batteries as soon as one shows a full charge.
you may also want to guess at how many shots per minute or per hour you plan on taking. I recently came back from a shooting with about 1000 shots, I actually shot more and deleted quite a few. (I also have the G-1, with a 1gig and 340 microdrive) My shooting time was about 14 hours straight through. if you do the math... 1000/(14*60)=1.2 shots per minute....Needless to say, with a shooting average well over 1 pic per minute, everyone started to look at me funny.
good luck
david s
Derek J. Mendez
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True, but they'll still make me pay for it! Not that a G1 and accessories are cheap...
David Robinson
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There is a much easier and cheaper solution.
Sam's Club/Price Club-Costco both have 300 watt power inverters.
Sam's was an unbelievably cheap $39. I have used these to charge my batteries and even run my Laptop. Because it isn't a true sinewave inverter I wouldn't run sensitive electronic equipment but a battery charger works fine. It'll have usually 2-3 outlets and then you can let others use it to charge their equipment. I would use only with the engine running to prevent getting stuck.
This is very cheap, works great, can't be beat!!!
More expensive inverters out there but these work pretty good for what you want.
David B. Robinson
Sam's Club/Price Club-Costco both have 300 watt power inverters.
Sam's was an unbelievably cheap $39. I have used these to charge my batteries and even run my Laptop. Because it isn't a true sinewave inverter I wouldn't run sensitive electronic equipment but a battery charger works fine. It'll have usually 2-3 outlets and then you can let others use it to charge their equipment. I would use only with the engine running to prevent getting stuck.
This is very cheap, works great, can't be beat!!!
More expensive inverters out there but these work pretty good for what you want.
David B. Robinson
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I don't know about Delco. If they they work G1's in-camera charger, then they will work on the double-charger as well
Delco batteries are probably compatible with the Canon ones, so I think there is no problem whith this, however I prefer original batteries (not sure if others are better).Ahto
Derek J. Mendez
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Ahto-I don't know about Delco. If they they work G1's in-camera charger,
then they will work on the double-charger as well
batteries are probably compatible with the Canon ones, so I think
there is no problem whith this, however I prefer original batteries
(not sure if others are better).
Ahto
The AC Delco batteries are cheaper ($40) and last longer than the standard Canons. I found out about them by reading this forum. I have ordered the Canon dual-charger and will test it out on the AC Delco bateries pre-trip (I'm also planning a test run of the camera and gear for my Memorial Day trip to Las Vegas).
Thanks,
Derek
Hi Christopher,
I am in a similar position - I will be going on a 6 week backpacking trip in the High Sierra in California. Thus I will have little access to electricity (I may be able to recharge when picking up resupply parcels at resorts or post offices).
Originally, I thought to take a film-based camera along, but I did not want to lug my SLR and lenses over 600+ miles while hiking. The only tiny, lightweight alternatives that offered a degree of manual control seemed to be the Canon Rebel 2000, the Nikon FE10 or FM10 and the Ricoh GR1. The cheapest and lightest of these was the Ricoh (about $700 Canadian). For a trip like this, I estimated my slide film + processing costs to be about $800 (Canadian). That didn't make a lot of sense, considering that for under $1200 (Cdn) I could buy a Canon G1. My initial outlay for extra batteries (about $120) and storage (about $800) would put me at a total of about $2100 (Cdn). That's only $600 more than the cheapest film combination ($300 if I went with the SLR and a half-decent zoom). In a year or two, I would easily save that much on film alone. This is besides the fact that I would get much more use and enjoyment out of my pictures in digital format. Even having several batteries for the G1 would be useful, since I go on at least one long trip every year.
My biggest problem is that I cannot use a microdrive or any kind of hard-drive based storage along, since most of my trip will be at altitudes above 10,000 ft. Thus, I am stuck with buying a lot of CF cards. Anyone know someone who would be willing to lend me a CF card for 6 weeks in return for pictures of the High Sierra?
Nick
I am in a similar position - I will be going on a 6 week backpacking trip in the High Sierra in California. Thus I will have little access to electricity (I may be able to recharge when picking up resupply parcels at resorts or post offices).
Originally, I thought to take a film-based camera along, but I did not want to lug my SLR and lenses over 600+ miles while hiking. The only tiny, lightweight alternatives that offered a degree of manual control seemed to be the Canon Rebel 2000, the Nikon FE10 or FM10 and the Ricoh GR1. The cheapest and lightest of these was the Ricoh (about $700 Canadian). For a trip like this, I estimated my slide film + processing costs to be about $800 (Canadian). That didn't make a lot of sense, considering that for under $1200 (Cdn) I could buy a Canon G1. My initial outlay for extra batteries (about $120) and storage (about $800) would put me at a total of about $2100 (Cdn). That's only $600 more than the cheapest film combination ($300 if I went with the SLR and a half-decent zoom). In a year or two, I would easily save that much on film alone. This is besides the fact that I would get much more use and enjoyment out of my pictures in digital format. Even having several batteries for the G1 would be useful, since I go on at least one long trip every year.
My biggest problem is that I cannot use a microdrive or any kind of hard-drive based storage along, since most of my trip will be at altitudes above 10,000 ft. Thus, I am stuck with buying a lot of CF cards. Anyone know someone who would be willing to lend me a CF card for 6 weeks in return for pictures of the High Sierra?
Nick
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Derek,
1. I would say your choice of digital is the way to go for travel. Film isn't easy to travel (carry all film in/out). The G1 can get 400 shots/charge (about 10-16 rolls of film). My film SLR doesn't do a whole lot better than this, if at all!Together with a digital wallet type device the this combo is very small and lightweight.
2. Don't underestimate how often you will find power outlets. It sounds like you will be on a safari, not hiking your way through the congo basin. Resorts, wildlife park camps, etc. will often have power.
3. I know we are a bunch of photo geeks, but... Your reason to travel isn't to see the world through a viewfinder (or LCD) but experience it in real-life first hand high fidelity. Maybe you shouldn't worry about having to take a bazillion pictures and use your camera more conservativly.
4. Solar is a interesting option for anyone who might travel remotly. The G1 it appears only draws 150 ma or so in recharge. This is a very small PV panel. Very cheap under $50. There are flexable PV bulletproof (really) panels that can be sewn into the back of a backpack, top of a hat, etc. No brainer, as you walk it will charge.
1. I would say your choice of digital is the way to go for travel. Film isn't easy to travel (carry all film in/out). The G1 can get 400 shots/charge (about 10-16 rolls of film). My film SLR doesn't do a whole lot better than this, if at all!Together with a digital wallet type device the this combo is very small and lightweight.
2. Don't underestimate how often you will find power outlets. It sounds like you will be on a safari, not hiking your way through the congo basin. Resorts, wildlife park camps, etc. will often have power.
3. I know we are a bunch of photo geeks, but... Your reason to travel isn't to see the world through a viewfinder (or LCD) but experience it in real-life first hand high fidelity. Maybe you shouldn't worry about having to take a bazillion pictures and use your camera more conservativly.
4. Solar is a interesting option for anyone who might travel remotly. The G1 it appears only draws 150 ma or so in recharge. This is a very small PV panel. Very cheap under $50. There are flexable PV bulletproof (really) panels that can be sewn into the back of a backpack, top of a hat, etc. No brainer, as you walk it will charge.
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If for some reason I can't get any power at all in the 4WD, there are parts of the trip where several consecutive days will be spent camping (of the "erect your own tent" variety). These stretches are what I am really worried about for battery power! Likewise, some days will be in lodges and other places likely to have electricity.
Well put! But on the other hand I am hoping to share some great pictures with my family (especially my grandparents who are in a "retirement community" and not likely to travel out of their complex, let alone city limits, any time soon). And of course I plan on sharing with all of you here in this very helpful forum!
Thanks for the response,
Derek
Nick Amin
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Derek,
I was wondering if you would be willing to post the total amount of money that you have (will) spent on the G1 and accessories. I am just curious. Also, remember you will not get the full capacity of your batteries until you have charged them a few times. Not sure exactly why, but it has held true with the Canon battery and the Ac-Delco battery on my Pro90.
Have a great trip!!
Nick
I was wondering if you would be willing to post the total amount of money that you have (will) spent on the G1 and accessories. I am just curious. Also, remember you will not get the full capacity of your batteries until you have charged them a few times. Not sure exactly why, but it has held true with the Canon battery and the Ac-Delco battery on my Pro90.
Have a great trip!!
Nick
Neil Wallis-Tennant
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I have not read through all the threads, but rather than carry a load of batteries, here is a solution to a vehicle without a cigarette lighter socket.
you need basically a set of Jump leads or whatever you guys call them in the states. and connect (rather precariously) the positive to positive (any car manual should give you the polarity of the lighter socket) and the negative to the car body (like a suspension nut) this will get power to the adapter for you to charge your batteries - in a worse case senario. I wouldn't imagine the battery charger is going to use that much juice so you could do this over night + G1 batteries only take about 1.5 hours to charge to 75-100% (thier usable charge rate)
(oh. btw, I know this works cause I used to do it with the charger for Radio Controlled Cars very similar to the senario - middle of no where and wanting to play a little more! )
Hope this was useful. Kind regards Neil Walis-Tennant (SirToU)
Neil Wallis-Tennant
(PS. I cannot be held liable for any information, that you may or mat not act on! :-(, proceed entirely at your own risk! :-( )
you need basically a set of Jump leads or whatever you guys call them in the states. and connect (rather precariously) the positive to positive (any car manual should give you the polarity of the lighter socket) and the negative to the car body (like a suspension nut) this will get power to the adapter for you to charge your batteries - in a worse case senario. I wouldn't imagine the battery charger is going to use that much juice so you could do this over night + G1 batteries only take about 1.5 hours to charge to 75-100% (thier usable charge rate)
(oh. btw, I know this works cause I used to do it with the charger for Radio Controlled Cars
very similar to the senario - middle of no where and wanting to play a little more! )Hope this was useful. Kind regards Neil Walis-Tennant (SirToU)
Neil Wallis-Tennant
(PS. I cannot be held liable for any information, that you may or mat not act on! :-(, proceed entirely at your own risk! :-( )
donato
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Hi Derek. I'm a little late in replying to your post, but then again, I just returned a few days ago from a 30-day trek in Nepal where I had no access to electricity as well. This is what I did:
I actually brought 3 cameras - two digital cameras, a Canon G1 and an Olympus C2020, and a Yashica T4 film camera for backup. For my G1, I brought 3 extra batteries (1 was Canon, 2 were AC-Delco) and 3 128MB CF cards (I couldn't take my microdrive because I spent most of my time above 13,000' and the microdrive is only usable up to about 9000'). This let me take about 150 pictures in raw mode. There were sometimes when I spent quite a bit of time composing with the LCD as well as reviewing pictures (sometimes took many of the same/similar shot and only kept best shot(s)). These 3 extra batteries lasted me the duration of my trek. I roughly used one battery per 128MB CF card. Note though that a microdrive is significantly more power hungry than a flash card.
For my Olympus, I brought 2 additional sets of 1600mah NiMH batteries as well as two sets of Lithium (non-rechargeable, but longest life, longest shelf life, and best performance in cold). Brought 192MB of storage. one set of 1600 batteries lasted through a 64MB card. This is a 2mp camera and I shot with medium compression. Was able to get 160 images per 64MB card and batteries lasted as long to shoot through this including picture review to delete misshot pictures, etc.
I debated about bringing a laptop (electricty would have been an issue as would weight (I would have to carry) and environmental (i.e. rain, altitude)) and digital wallet (couldn't get confirmation from company that would work at altitude and still had to deal with electricity issue (wallet uses it's own battery pack)).
In any case, that was my experience. Your trip sounds interesting. Hopefully I haven't missed you before your trip. As a side note, I don't recommend buying a new toy just before you go on a trip. Best to buy earlier and get some experience with it and find out what you need, how it works, etc. in any case, take great pictures and post here!
I actually brought 3 cameras - two digital cameras, a Canon G1 and an Olympus C2020, and a Yashica T4 film camera for backup. For my G1, I brought 3 extra batteries (1 was Canon, 2 were AC-Delco) and 3 128MB CF cards (I couldn't take my microdrive because I spent most of my time above 13,000' and the microdrive is only usable up to about 9000'). This let me take about 150 pictures in raw mode. There were sometimes when I spent quite a bit of time composing with the LCD as well as reviewing pictures (sometimes took many of the same/similar shot and only kept best shot(s)). These 3 extra batteries lasted me the duration of my trek. I roughly used one battery per 128MB CF card. Note though that a microdrive is significantly more power hungry than a flash card.
For my Olympus, I brought 2 additional sets of 1600mah NiMH batteries as well as two sets of Lithium (non-rechargeable, but longest life, longest shelf life, and best performance in cold). Brought 192MB of storage. one set of 1600 batteries lasted through a 64MB card. This is a 2mp camera and I shot with medium compression. Was able to get 160 images per 64MB card and batteries lasted as long to shoot through this including picture review to delete misshot pictures, etc.
I debated about bringing a laptop (electricty would have been an issue as would weight (I would have to carry) and environmental (i.e. rain, altitude)) and digital wallet (couldn't get confirmation from company that would work at altitude and still had to deal with electricity issue (wallet uses it's own battery pack)).
In any case, that was my experience. Your trip sounds interesting. Hopefully I haven't missed you before your trip. As a side note, I don't recommend buying a new toy just before you go on a trip. Best to buy earlier and get some experience with it and find out what you need, how it works, etc. in any case, take great pictures and post here!
frank perry
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My answer,For what it is worth , I take 100-240vac standard power supplies for my G1 and for my Nixvue and a 12v DC to 240v ac inverter with a cig.lighter plug-----and cig. lighter socket with a pair of leads wired to it. I have never been refused use of the vehicle battery, but stick to using it while the engine is running, the inverter weighs about a pound,costs about $100 ---mine is 300w--good for your shaveras well, but keep the ladies away with the hair dryers. Frank
I have not read through all the threads, but rather than carry a
load of batteries, here is a solution to a vehicle without a
cigarette lighter socket.
you need basically a set of Jump leads or whatever you guys call
them in the states. and connect (rather precariously) the positive
to positive (any car manual should give you the polarity of the
lighter socket) and the negative to the car body (like a suspension
nut) this will get power to the adapter for you to charge your
batteries - in a worse case senario. I wouldn't imagine the
battery charger is going to use that much juice so you could do
this over night + G1 batteries only take about 1.5 hours to charge
to 75-100% (thier usable charge rate)
(oh. btw, I know this works cause I used to do it with the charger
for Radio Controlled Cars
of no where and wanting to play a little more!
Hope this was useful. Kind regards Neil Walis-Tennant (SirToU)
Neil Wallis-Tennant
(PS. I cannot be held liable for any information, that you may or
mat not act on! :-(, proceed entirely at your own risk! :-( )
Greg R35144
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I have used the cigarette lighter with the external battery charger (not Canon's) and it did not seem to take any longer than when it was plugged in AC wall
Hi donato,
Did you find any difference between the Delco batteries for the G-1 and the Canon battery? Did the Delco's actually last longer?
Thanks,
Nick
Did you find any difference between the Delco batteries for the G-1 and the Canon battery? Did the Delco's actually last longer?
Thanks,
Nick
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