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This is an improvement over Camedia which sounds just like Chlamydia . The name didn't stop me from buying three of them.
 
rustedborg said:
Let me start out by saying I'm very impressed with the new E-300.
This is exactly the kind of camera I felt Olympus should have
started with when it launched the E-system and then they could have
followed it up with a "pro" body like the E-1.

Even though I am dedicated to the Nikon lens system for DSLRs (S2
and D70), I am now seriously considering adding the E-300 to my kit
with a two or three lenses. I have so far been using "prosumer"
digicams as travel cameras (or as backups when I don't want to haul
a second DSLR) because I didn't want the bulk of a large camera bag
and DSLR with lenses ... but the E-300 may be the answer I was
looking for in terms of a more compact camera but without
sacrificing the versatility of a DSLR.

The only thing that upsets me is that the Olympus marketing
department didn't do its job. E-volt sounds WAY too much like
revolt, as in a revolting name for a camera.

You would think that Olympus would have learned something from
Chevrolet. Back in the days of the Chevy Nova the folks at Chevy
couldn't figure out why Nova sales weren't quite as high as similar
car models in Spanish-speaking countries. After a while someone
bothered to explain that Nova sounds too much like "No va" ...
meaning "no go" or "cannot go" as in "This hunk of junk car is so
horrible that it cannot be driven."

I think E-300 would have been a better name to stick with, but the
name alone won't stop me from buying the camera.
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ricardo frança
 
antonyoung said:
raymond got to this before i did and he's right... why do so many
people not understand basic optics? 54mm is always going to be the
same size image viewed through an slr. on 4/3 it's a telephoto, on
a 35mm it's "normal", and on 6x7 it's wide. in any case the images
will all be the same size in the viewfinder, and if you looked thru
any of them with one eye open it would be about the same size as
you see with your open eye. you just see more of it with the larger
format and less of it with the smaller.
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Well, yeah. That's what a telephoto lens does, it constricts your angle of view. Perspective has nothing to do with focal length. It comes from distance to the subject. If you stick a 100mm lens on a 35mm camera, you will get roughly the same framing as a 4/3 camera with a 50mm lens (other than the aspect ratio, obviously) at the same subject distance. Perspective will be exactly the same. The only difference is that the 4/3 picture will have greater depth of field at a given aperture. The "crop factor" thing is a red herring.
 
Ray Thompson said:
Ian Tunnicliffe said:
What
further innovation can we expect from Olympus for that, maybe an E3
standard and E3N with something extra - faster fps and bigger
buffer maybe? Now that would really shake Canons tree.
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And when was the last time you needed more the 3 fps and 12 frames?
That type of speed and storage is probably limited to sports with
really fast lenses and bright lighting. Let Canon have their speed.
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Well, when I used to shoot motorsport, And if Oly are to compete with Canon then surely they must (and I am sure they can) produce a high speed option - note I said option. Would I buy it, probably not if there was an alternate body with better resolution- in other words the E3 (probably or E3N depending on which way they went).
Ray Thompson said:
I want image quality and superb color balancing all kinds of light.
I can easily compensate for Sodium lights with my Sony F717, but
not with my E1.
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So do I which is why I went E1 and not 20D. I sold an EOS 1V HS to finance the Oly purchase.
Ray Thompson said:
I want a small built-in flash such as the E300 contains for nothing
more than shadow fill. My Sony F717 has this, my E1 does not.
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Not interested in BI flash, rarely used the one on my EOS 30. If I need flash I'd use a 'proper' one.
Ray Thompson said:
I want flash metered through the lens. My Sony F717 does not meter
flash through the lense, my E1 does.

I would really like focus confirmation in the viewfinder on the
screen that is displaying the subject. Looking down to the bottom
of the window is a pain. Neither my Sony F717 or E1 have focus
confirmation in the viewfinder when composing.
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Now focus is the only area that I think lets the E1 down and I'm glad I don't shoot sports anymore. It needs more focusing points and better low light/low contrast acuracy. The 1V was brilliant in both these areas.
Ray Thompson said:
I like being able to adjust the color emphasis as the E1 allows. My
Sony also does this but somewhat differently. The E-300 seems to
have a dial that allows for quick selection of the type of scene. I
wish the E1 had such a quick adjustment.

I could care less about going beyond 5 megapixels as that is more
than adequate for all that I do. More pixels is just more storage.
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More mp means more options PROVIDED the quality is good as with the E1. Most of my work is macro so the more fine detail the better for me.
Ray Thompson said:
I really want better lenses. The 35-70 that I used with my OM
system was a wonderful lens. Why can't I get this with my E1? The
14-54 is supposed to be a mild telephoto but when viewing the
images through the viewfinder and my open eye, the 54 setting seems
to be about what my eye sees. It does not appear to be a telephoto
at all (funny numbers maybe.)

I want a fast prime lens. My OM system has a 55mm 1.2 lens that is
really nice. I also want this my digital system.
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Well I've been using Canon L series lenses for a while now and I think the E1 lenses are superb. I would like a few faster primes, but thats just because I like available light portraiture.
Ray Thompson said:
Why does the flash grip for the E-1 require two cables. One for the
trigger button, one for the flash. Could this cables be combined
into one? Why does the flash cable have to connect into the
hotshoe? Could this not have been a special cable from the bottom
of the grip into the side of the camera as was done with the OM
system?

I want a flash grip that places the flash above the camera, not to
the side. I also want this grip to contain extra batteries so the
flash recycles quicker. Also could not the batteries in the flash
grip be used to power the camera. One set of additional power for
both purposes?

I want a central split prism, all around matte with gridlines,
viewing and focusing screen. It worked well in my OM system, why
not the E system?

I like the E1 and it is my camera of choice. I have liked Olympus
products since the OM-1 and have four OM bodies. I just think there
are some engineering pin-heads that need to look at the real world
when designing a system.

The E300 has a couple of new features. I would rather the money
spent on 3 additional megapixels be spent on more lenses and useful
accessories.
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I think the E300 will be the turning point for 4/3 so I hope it succeeds.
Ray Thompson said:
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cheers

Ian
 
It seems to be time for our E-3 wish lists. Actually, I feel no need to replace my E-1 until it wears out, but if it were stolen sometime soon, here are my very few wishes for upgrades.

I would like something like the 11 point, "rule of thirds plus two" AF point array used by Pentax SLR's and some Nikon models. However, Canon's "Christmas lights" are not of much interest for me, and it is probably a low priority for Olympus (or Pentax or Konica-Minolta) to target the state-of-the-art high end sports/action market, which Canon and Nikon will probably continue to dominate.

Higher resolution; 8MP or even up to a bit beyond 10MP. I have become sanguine about the effects of more, smaller pixels; I am fairly sure that:

a) at the noisier, higher "push processing" speed settings, downsampling or other NR can restore the same S/N ratios at that ISO would give with a lower res. sensor, while keeping the same or better resolution as that lower res. sensor.

b) at low to moderate speed settings, S/N can still be fine (so that the speed is mor like a legitimate ISO rating), and the extra pixels can be useful for highly detailed, slow moving subjects like landscapes. For most high resolution needs, you are probably working very deliberately, and for example, the "legitimate" ISO 400 limit of the E-300 is more than enough. Does anyone remember transparency film ISO speeds?
 
Hey, first and foremost a camera performs a function.

With all cameras going for a sexy (similar) look, ugly will get peoplre talking about it and to the owners (sometimes handy).

Lastly, ugly encourages you to look through it instead of at it :-)

Can't wait to hold it and see reviews/samples.
 
GWBell said:
Hey, first and foremost a camera performs a function.

With all cameras going for a sexy (similar) look, ugly will get
peoplre talking about it and to the owners (sometimes handy).

Lastly, ugly encourages you to look through it instead of at it :-)

Can't wait to hold it and see reviews/samples.
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Oh and look through the porro.
 
Yes, a car also performs a function, and even clothes... do you buy these if they're ugly?

If the slr evolved to it's present form in nearly 75 years why should they try something different? And why must that different (rangefinder inspired) shape be an ugly one. The back is even worse than the front.

And I hope that the look through that weird (innovative) vfinder isn't as dark as I think it'll be...

You are right that the camera is mostly a tool but why should it look like an unfinished prototype?

But I hope it suit your needs... Image quality should be fine. As for me, it looks as though I'll have to wait longer until some wide primes come out of the sketchpad.
GWBell said:
Hey, first and foremost a camera performs a function.

With all cameras going for a sexy (similar) look, ugly will get
peoplre talking about it and to the owners (sometimes handy).

Lastly, ugly encourages you to look through it instead of at it :-)

Can't wait to hold it and see reviews/samples.
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regards,
ricardo frança
 
ricardo franca said:
Yes, a car also performs a function, and even clothes... do you buy
these if they're ugly?
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Ever heard of trucks, SUV's, Work clothes etc.

Whether my camera looks fashionable is the last of my concerns. It is like a sculptor caring about how his chisels look. If you want decoration, there are much prettier objects to be had for the price of a DSLR.

Besides, if it is ugly, it is less likely to be stolen.
 
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