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Ok this is a total newbie question but we all have to start somewhere.

I got my first camera about 10 months ago, it was a digital P&S, I loved it got used to taking pictures and found photography might be something I'd like to pursue, whether it be for fun or something else, so somewhere down the Line I'd like to buy a dSLR (probably a D70 if nothing else I can almost afford comes out) The thing is, I only ever got my hands on an SLR a few days ago, I started a photography course in college and they use film SLRs well having this thing in my hands was just awesome and the way you see the actual image instantly even when you twist the lens, it just made me love photography more well I was wondering as I am unsure...

do dSLRs work in the exact same was as film SLRs despite having the obvious output difference?

Thanks and take care
 
yes DSLR work in the same way as a Film SLR, However CCD's are more Sensitive to light, And from my own learning it does not take as long of a Exp like a Film SLR when doing night shots.

if you already did not know SLR stands for Single Lens Reflex and so what you see is what you get.
Cpee said:
Ok this is a total newbie question but we all have to start somewhere.
I got my first camera about 10 months ago, it was a digital P&S, I
loved it got used to taking pictures and found photography might be
something I'd like to pursue, whether it be for fun or something
else, so somewhere down the Line I'd like to buy a dSLR (probably a
D70 if nothing else I can almost afford comes out) The thing is, I
only ever got my hands on an SLR a few days ago, I started a
photography course in college and they use film SLRs well having
this thing in my hands was just awesome and the way you see the
actual image instantly even when you twist the lens, it just made
me love photography more well I was wondering as I am unsure...
do dSLRs work in the exact same was as film SLRs despite having the
obvious output difference?

Thanks and take care
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Thanks for the reply Mike, Yep I knew SLR meant Single Lens Reflex but I was a little cloudy on what Single Lens Reflex meant :p
The higher sensitivity to light, that sounds like a good thing, is it not?

Cheers
Mike Lewis said:
if you already did not know SLR stands for Single Lens Reflex and
so what you see is what you get.
Cpee said:
Ok this is a total newbie question but we all have to start somewhere.
I got my first camera about 10 months ago, it was a digital P&S, I
loved it got used to taking pictures and found photography might be
something I'd like to pursue, whether it be for fun or something
else, so somewhere down the Line I'd like to buy a dSLR (probably a
D70 if nothing else I can almost afford comes out) The thing is, I
only ever got my hands on an SLR a few days ago, I started a
photography course in college and they use film SLRs well having
this thing in my hands was just awesome and the way you see the
actual image instantly even when you twist the lens, it just made
me love photography more well I was wondering as I am unsure...
do dSLRs work in the exact same was as film SLRs despite having the
obvious output difference?

Thanks and take care
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Minolta Dimage S404

Nikon D70 Soon to be

Nikon - We take the world's greatest pictures
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I guess you can say thats a good thing, I never thought of it being bad, but it's easy to have some Bloom at night if your shutter is open for too long, You pretty much get the idea of how long you might have to keep the shutter open by your soundings.
Cpee said:
Cheers
Mike Lewis said:
if you already did not know SLR stands for Single Lens Reflex and
so what you see is what you get.
Cpee said:
Ok this is a total newbie question but we all have to start somewhere.
I got my first camera about 10 months ago, it was a digital P&S, I
loved it got used to taking pictures and found photography might be
something I'd like to pursue, whether it be for fun or something
else, so somewhere down the Line I'd like to buy a dSLR (probably a
D70 if nothing else I can almost afford comes out) The thing is, I
only ever got my hands on an SLR a few days ago, I started a
photography course in college and they use film SLRs well having
this thing in my hands was just awesome and the way you see the
actual image instantly even when you twist the lens, it just made
me love photography more well I was wondering as I am unsure...
do dSLRs work in the exact same was as film SLRs despite having the
obvious output difference?

Thanks and take care
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Mike L.

http://www.pbase.com/ferrari355/galleries

Minolta Dimage S404

Nikon D70 Soon to be

Nikon - We take the world's greatest pictures
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Mike L.

http://www.pbase.com/ferrari355/galleries

Minolta Dimage S404

Nikon D70 Soon to be

Nikon - We take the world's greatest pictures
 
I was exactly the same as you having “progressed up the ranks” with various digital cameras since 1997. It was only when I auctioned for an old Fujica 35mm SLR on Ebay earlier in the year was when I realised how very different “normal” digital cameras are compared to SLR and how fantastic SLRs are to use. I then begged, stole AND borrowed the money to get my hands on a D70 and it’s the greatest purchase I’ve ever made.
Cpee said:
Ok this is a total newbie question but we all have to start somewhere.
I got my first camera about 10 months ago, it was a digital P&S, I
loved it got used to taking pictures and found photography might be
something I'd like to pursue, whether it be for fun or something
else, so somewhere down the Line I'd like to buy a dSLR (probably a
D70 if nothing else I can almost afford comes out) The thing is, I
only ever got my hands on an SLR a few days ago, I started a
photography course in college and they use film SLRs well having
this thing in my hands was just awesome and the way you see the
actual image instantly even when you twist the lens, it just made
me love photography more well I was wondering as I am unsure...
do dSLRs work in the exact same was as film SLRs despite having the
obvious output difference?

Thanks and take care
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The handling is the same.

The 1.5x crop factor is not. The viewfinder is not as good as most manual or pro SLR bodies have.

CCD and film are two totally different beasts. That's where you'll find the most important differences IMHO. Dynamic (contrast) range is more like transparency film than modern negative film.

BTW I love my D70! Best thing I bought in a looong time.
Dennis.

Dennis.
Cpee said:
Ok this is a total newbie question but we all have to start somewhere.
I got my first camera about 10 months ago, it was a digital P&S, I
loved it got used to taking pictures and found photography might be
something I'd like to pursue, whether it be for fun or something
else, so somewhere down the Line I'd like to buy a dSLR (probably a
D70 if nothing else I can almost afford comes out) The thing is, I
only ever got my hands on an SLR a few days ago, I started a
photography course in college and they use film SLRs well having
this thing in my hands was just awesome and the way you see the
actual image instantly even when you twist the lens, it just made
me love photography more well I was wondering as I am unsure...
do dSLRs work in the exact same was as film SLRs despite having the
obvious output difference?

Thanks and take care
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Cpee said:
do dSLRs work in the exact same was as film SLRs despite having the
obvious output difference?
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Basically yes. There are the many differences between film and digital that are found whether you're using a P&S or SLR. As has been pointed out, there is the cropping factor so a 100 mm lens will have a narrower field of view on a digital SL than on a film SLR (except for the very few DSLRs that have a sensor the same size as a 35mm frame - and the D70 isn't one of those) Otherwise an SLR is an SLR.
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Yep, dslr is said to be more like slide film inasmuch as it is less tolerant of exposure mistakes than film.

But on the other hand, you may well find that your photography improves at a quicker pace because you can review and correct basic errors on-shoot. You will also be more encouraged when you come back from each shoot with some keepers as a result of the aforementioned, rather than 3x36 mis-shots.

D70 was definitely the best money I can remember spending!

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Some differences:

1) with DX cameras, you get a narrower field of view with the same lenses (50 mm "looks like" 75mm)

2) you can change the "film speed" from shot to shot (and the white balance, which would be like changing from daylight to tungsten film)

3) the exposure latitude is more like slide film than print film, and overexposures are especially bad

but the best part is

4) you can see what you've done immediately
 
I know you guys own or aim to own a D70 so you may have a prefference to this but I was considering this and do you think I should maybe try to get a dSLR that has the ability to use 100 ISO? (not a canon DR tho) because I only wanna buy one dSLR as I'm skint and can't see myself buying another anytime down the line.

it's just that there will obviously be slightly more noise and brighter scenes with the ISO 200 of the D70

Thanks
 
You won't miss iso 100 with D70. There is not a noise problem with 200 with the D70. If you have used p&s digitals with iso 200 you may have seen noise, but they can't be compared with D70 as far as noise goes. iso 800 and 1600 have less noise on D70 than many point and shoots have at iso 200-400. The D70 uses a much larger sensor which makes noise much less of a consideration. I have prints made from iso 1600 shots from D70 with essentially no visible noise.
Cpee said:
I know you guys own or aim to own a D70 so you may have a
prefference to this but I was considering this and do you think I
should maybe try to get a dSLR that has the ability to use 100 ISO?
(not a canon DR tho) because I only wanna buy one dSLR as I'm skint
and can't see myself buying another anytime down the line.
it's just that there will obviously be slightly more noise and
brighter scenes with the ISO 200 of the D70

Thanks
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Yeah but there will be more visible noise than ISO 100 if it had that option and as I can only see me buying one Digital SLR I wanna get one that will last me for at least a good few years and that I wont regret any aspects of buying it
RAL said:
Cpee said:
I know you guys own or aim to own a D70 so you may have a
prefference to this but I was considering this and do you think I
should maybe try to get a dSLR that has the ability to use 100 ISO?
(not a canon DR tho) because I only wanna buy one dSLR as I'm skint
and can't see myself buying another anytime down the line.
it's just that there will obviously be slightly more noise and
brighter scenes with the ISO 200 of the D70

Thanks
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Just to be clear, the difference between film and digital when doing night shots is that film suffers from reciprocity failure; digital sensors do not.

Most films do not expose linearly after one second or so. That means that a two minute image will not double the exposure that a one minute image will create. If you are trying to get more than a 10-30 second image this is a big issue. Astrophotographers used to treat their film with nitrogen in a process called gas hypering to keep the exposure scale as linear as possible. That all goes away with digital and no one will miss hypered film, which had to stored cold and had a short shelf life.

Other than that, ISO 200 should be ISO 200, film or digital.

Regards
Mike Lewis said:
if you already did not know SLR stands for Single Lens Reflex and
so what you see is what you get.
Cpee said:
Ok this is a total newbie question but we all have to start somewhere.
I got my first camera about 10 months ago, it was a digital P&S, I
loved it got used to taking pictures and found photography might be
something I'd like to pursue, whether it be for fun or something
else, so somewhere down the Line I'd like to buy a dSLR (probably a
D70 if nothing else I can almost afford comes out) The thing is, I
only ever got my hands on an SLR a few days ago, I started a
photography course in college and they use film SLRs well having
this thing in my hands was just awesome and the way you see the
actual image instantly even when you twist the lens, it just made
me love photography more well I was wondering as I am unsure...
do dSLRs work in the exact same was as film SLRs despite having the
obvious output difference?

Thanks and take care
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Mike L.

http://www.pbase.com/ferrari355/galleries

Minolta Dimage S404

Nikon D70 Soon to be

Nikon - We take the world's greatest pictures
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Regards,
Neil
 
Cpee said:
Yeah but there will be more visible noise than ISO 100 if it had
that option and as I can only see me buying one Digital SLR I wanna
get one that will last me for at least a good few years and that I
wont regret any aspects of buying it
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I really dont' think you would notice all that much of a difference between ISO 100 (if it had it) and 200. I can't tell a difference between 200 and 300 unless I look super close, and even then it's tough. I wouldn't let that be your deal breaker.

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Don't worry about noise. It's not an issue at ISO 200. I don't even consider noise to be a factor unless I'm using an ISO of 640 or higher. If you're really concerned about it, download some sample images taken at various ISOs and get large prints done. I have a 12" by 8" print of an ISO 200 image here, and there is absolutely no noise.
Cpee said:
RAL said:
Cpee said:
I know you guys own or aim to own a D70 so you may have a
prefference to this but I was considering this and do you think I
should maybe try to get a dSLR that has the ability to use 100 ISO?
(not a canon DR tho) because I only wanna buy one dSLR as I'm skint
and can't see myself buying another anytime down the line.
it's just that there will obviously be slightly more noise and
brighter scenes with the ISO 200 of the D70

Thanks
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