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...First I want to say my two C2100Uzi's have served me very well and squeeze more out of 2 megapixels than any other camera....IMHO
Searchin for the the elusive Uzi upgrade......

First Panasonic released the FZ10 ..nice..but didnt think that was for me...now the FZ20....I thought this would be the one..great price and got to play with the FZ20 that I suggested my bro in law buy...liked it but it didnt make me want to rush out and buy one... not yet anyway... then Nikon anounced the 8800... that looks very interesting..all in one sounds great....watching for reviews...and now Konica-Minolta announced the 7D... a DSLR with the sabilization in the body...and other neat features....so I got another with great potential to drool over the specs for.....Olympus has made a little splash with a tease of a consumer grade E1.... but where is Olys big splash... an UZI upgrade ... is that too much to ask for... I see other people from the oly forum visiting the sites that have these new cameras coming out asking questions ... digging for more info...just trying to find that elusive Uzi replacement...WAKE UP OLYMPUS....your faithful flock is looking elsewhere !!!!
WAKE UP OLYMPUS
How many are in the UZI upgrade/replaement hunt ???????????
Stand up and be counted !!!!!!
WAKE UP OLYMPUS
Bob

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I bailed and am happily out shooting. This long zoom is UNBELIEVABLE! (Now if I can just figure out the manual external flash business....)

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Theresa
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Pano FZ-20, Oly C-5O6O & FL-4O

 
Bob Myers1 said:
...First I want to say my two C2100Uzi's have served me very well
and squeeze more out of 2 megapixels than any other camera....IMHO
Searchin for the the elusive Uzi upgrade......
First Panasonic released the FZ10 ..nice..but didnt think that was
for me...now the FZ20....I thought this would be the one..great
price and got to play with the FZ20 that I suggested my bro in law
buy...liked it but it didnt make me want to rush out and buy one...
not yet anyway... then Nikon anounced the 8800... that looks very
interesting..all in one sounds great....watching for reviews...and
now Konica-Minolta announced the 7D... a DSLR with the sabilization
in the body...and other neat features....so I got another with
great potential to drool over the specs for.....Olympus has made a
little splash with a tease of a consumer grade E1.... but where is
Olys big splash... an UZI upgrade ... is that too much to ask
for... I see other people from the oly forum visiting the sites
that have these new cameras coming out asking questions ... digging
for more info...just trying to find that elusive Uzi
replacement...WAKE UP OLYMPUS....your faithful flock is looking
elsewhere !!!!
WAKE UP OLYMPUS
How many are in the UZI upgrade/replaement hunt ???????????
Stand up and be counted !!!!!!
WAKE UP OLYMPUS
Bob

--
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http://members.cox.net/digiphotos/
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Bob -
Pie in the sky I fear !

Some time now since I heard the nitty-gritty of it .. and I think it IS true ...Oly originally bought the IS rights from Canon for the Uzi but they ran out and either Oly didn't then want to renew...or Canon wanted too much - hence NO replacement Uzi ..except the poor relations now out.

I'm of the thought that Oly will never do the same. Panasonic do of course the IS thing - how THEY do it I don't know ... maybe just prepared to pay, as I think it IS still a Canon right ...after all , THEY brought out the USM lenses and still do ...who else , is the answer I think ??

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ericN
 
I'm with you, Bob. As nice as the FZs are, they are still not really an upgrade from the UZI. I haven't found anything that is.

Oly, I'm hangin' on, but I don't know for how much longer. Get on with it or I'll be gone. (Bob, too.)

Rick
 
Hi Bob

I am also looking around too see if there is an UZI upgrade camera for me some place.

I have also the 750UZ but it is not the UZI replacement camera... It is not a bad camera at all. In fact it is great and I use it a lot but I keep returning to my UZI...

I have lots of equipment for these cameras and would like to continue buying Olympus BUT WHAT CAN I BUY TO REPLACE THE UZI???

I have always bought Olympus equipment and have been happy with it... I started with an OM10 then OM2 etc. The lenses are great and the image colors from their digicam's are excellent.

I am just a little frustrated..

Kind regards Jørgen
http://www.pbase.com/jchriste
 
I LOVE my c770. IS is not that important to me, and I am definately happy enough with the c770 that I don't feel any desire to switch to another brand that has IS. But if the c770 had IS it would unquestionably be at the top of it's league. It bugs me that others will never know how good this camera is because it doesn't have IS and therefore won't be an option for them.

So I agree with you Bob: Olympus wake up! It's a pity that Oly is llosing loyal customers due to this.

Cheers,

Wayne
http://www.pbase.com/wayne_n
(Comments and critiques always welcome!)
 
Hi Everyone,
I’m afraid that I cannot afford what would be the Oly successor to the 2100.

Let’s assume that the 2100 was a $1000 camera when it came out (not the 1350 or so that it was introduced at).

I know that most people assume that with electronics we always get a lot more for a lot less as time goes by and that is typically so but for the sake of this argument lets just try to keep improvements on a linear basis with price. An equvilant Oly 7100 (same camera except new, new, new stuff jammed inside and a 7mp sensor) would be in the $1500 or so price range. It probably is worth it but since I’m just a working stiff I’ll need to compromise and buy the FZ20…but at least I would know that I couldn’t afford what I want rather than not know when the magic 7100 was going to arrive.

I said it before…Xmas is my shopping time for a new zoom + IS camera…so just like the upcoming election, I’m counting the days.
sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
wj
Jørgen Christensen said:
Hi Bob
I am also looking around too see if there is an UZI upgrade camera
for me some place.
I have also the 750UZ but it is not the UZI replacement camera...
It is not a bad camera at all. In fact it is great and I use it a
lot but I keep returning to my UZI...
I have lots of equipment for these cameras and would like to
continue buying Olympus BUT WHAT CAN I BUY TO REPLACE THE UZI???

I have always bought Olympus equipment and have been happy with
it... I started with an OM10 then OM2 etc. The lenses are great and
the image colors from their digicam's are excellent.

I am just a little frustrated..

Kind regards Jørgen
http://www.pbase.com/jchriste
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--
C-770
 
wymjym said:
Hi Everyone,
I’m afraid that I cannot afford what would be the Oly successor to
the 2100.
Let’s assume that the 2100 was a $1000 camera when it came out (not
the 1350 or so that it was introduced at).
Click to expand...
That's what I paid when I got mine, about 2 months after it hit the stores.
wymjym said:
I know that most people assume that with electronics we always get
a lot more for a lot less as time goes by and that is typically so
but for the sake of this argument lets just try to keep
improvements on a linear basis with price.
Click to expand...
Cameras don't quite follow that trend because of the lens, better and bigger lenses cost more, even when mass produced.

The lens used in the 2100 was a canon lens, search back a year before the 2100 came out and there was a news release that canon had developed the lens and was going to sell it to other companies to use. They must have stopped licensing it or something, since there are now higher megapixel chips that would be useable with that lens.

After going the DSLR route, I finally am back to what the 2100 had after getting the 100-400 IS lens from Canon. Along with a wide angle lens (don't need IS at less than 50mm). So for only $3000 to $4000 you can get a DSLR body and 2 lenses to replace what the 2100 has.

Still use my D40 sometimes, when I need something I can put in a jacket pocket.

The 2100 is now on hazard duty, I use it in situations that might result in loss/damage to the camera (where I wouldn't want to lose my DSLR).

--
Later,
Marty

http://science.widener.edu/~schultz/digipicts.html
 
Aloha,

Why worry about replacement(s) if the camera is running good? I stopped worring about a replacement after CompUSA had a close out sale on them. The Wife is happy that I bought 2 more. Between the two of us, we have 4 UZis and an EZi. One UZi is always in use(mine) the second is hardly used(hers) and we have 2 more NIB(New In Box). The EZi is used only when I need the speed.

The UZis are backbone of our Olympus Digital System. They are backed up by a TCON 17, WCON 7, MCON 40 and and a FL-40 Flash. Not to mention a variety of accessories to complement our UZi(s).

So, yes, We are Happy with what we have. We do look at new offerings, but none so far can compete as a SYSTEM to what we have now.
I don't know why anyone would want to change horses if the present one does OK.
 
Agreed. Oly is dropping the ball. I've been keeping a close eye on the Panasonic offerings, and that new Nikon 8800 does look interesting (though F4.9 at full zoom is a bit of a disappointment). My Uzi is showing signs of wear and tear - the plastic is cracking in some places, the silver has worn off on others, and the rubber handgrip is coming loose once again. When it's time for it to move on to that great camera-heaven in the sky, I'd love to replace it with another Oly, but what they've got to offer so far is of little interest to me. Dammit, I want something with the same fondlability as my Uzi, not some inky-dinky look-at-me-move-my-lens-in-and-out P&Ser on steroids :-).

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Brian Steele
http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/708.html
http://www.spiceisle.com/brian
http://www.pbase.com/uzgroup

 
My Uzi's are fine for the Web, small prints and 10x8 prints for my own use.
For magazine submissions and competitive photography, they are not.

On my SD9, I REALLY miss image stabilisation, and I am not yet so convinced by this camera as to buy an IS lens.

Minolta's 'IS on the chip' system looks ideal, and the 2 sample images posted are impressive. I eagerly await a review.
However, despite all this, the Uzi is just so much FUN to use !!

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Sigma SD9 with 24-70 f3.5-5.6 & 50mm EX Macro (Ziggy)
2 x Olympus C2100 Ultra Zoom (Uzi & Tuzi)
Nikon CP995 (Nikki or Pixie)
Canon Ixus v (Icky)
 
Bob Myers1 said:
...First I want to say my two C2100Uzi's have served me very well
and squeeze more out of 2 megapixels than any other camera....IMHO
Searchin for the the elusive Uzi upgrade......
First Panasonic released the FZ10 ..nice..but didnt think that was
for me...now the FZ20....I thought this would be the one..great
price and got to play with the FZ20 that I suggested my bro in law
buy...liked it but it didnt make me want to rush out and buy one...
not yet anyway... then Nikon anounced the 8800... that looks very
interesting..all in one sounds great....watching for reviews...and
now Konica-Minolta announced the 7D... a DSLR with the sabilization
in the body...and other neat features....so I got another with
great potential to drool over the specs for.....Olympus has made a
little splash with a tease of a consumer grade E1.... but where is
Olys big splash... an UZI upgrade ... is that too much to ask
for... I see other people from the oly forum visiting the sites
that have these new cameras coming out asking questions ... digging
for more info...just trying to find that elusive Uzi
replacement...WAKE UP OLYMPUS....your faithful flock is looking
elsewhere !!!!
WAKE UP OLYMPUS
How many are in the UZI upgrade/replaement hunt ???????????
Stand up and be counted !!!!!!
WAKE UP OLYMPUS
Bob

--
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2 - Olympus C21oo 2 - B3oo 1 - B-Macro
http://hillsidephotos.com/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos3/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos2/
http://members.cox.net/robert.myers1/
http://members.cox.net/robert.myers2/
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When the 2100 came out, it had great specs, but a high price, no one bought them until it started going on closeout specials. Now, the prices have come down and several companies offer IS-enabled cameras, Panasonic (w/the Lieca lens), Minolta, Canon. Unless Olympus came out with an FZ-20 at a lower price point than Panasonic, I would go for the Olympus if I were looking for a long zoom lens camera, but other than that, I would still get the Panasonic over the Olympus.

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-Eric
------
Olympus 3040
Minolta XG7
FED 2
 
... shooters have been saying about the long zoom and stabilization.... it does make a difference !!!!! I am glad you are so happy with your new camera !!!! You never know... I may end up with one.
Bob
Theresa K said:
I bailed and am happily out shooting. This long zoom is
UNBELIEVABLE! (Now if I can just figure out the manual external
flash business....)

--
Theresa
Constructive criticism always welcome! :)
http://www.pbase.com/theresa_k
Pano FZ-20, Oly C-5O6O & FL-4O

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Bob Myers WB7SBW
2 - Olympus C21oo 2 - B3oo 1 - B-Macro
http://hillsidephotos.com/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos3/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos2/
http://members.cox.net/robert.myers1/
http://members.cox.net/robert.myers2/
 
EJN said:
Bob Myers1 said:
...First I want to say my two C2100Uzi's have served me very well
and squeeze more out of 2 megapixels than any other camera....IMHO
Searchin for the the elusive Uzi upgrade......
First Panasonic released the FZ10 ..nice..but didnt think that was
for me...now the FZ20....I thought this would be the one..great
price and got to play with the FZ20 that I suggested my bro in law
buy...liked it but it didnt make me want to rush out and buy one...
not yet anyway... then Nikon anounced the 8800... that looks very
interesting..all in one sounds great....watching for reviews...and
now Konica-Minolta announced the 7D... a DSLR with the sabilization
in the body...and other neat features....so I got another with
great potential to drool over the specs for.....Olympus has made a
little splash with a tease of a consumer grade E1.... but where is
Olys big splash... an UZI upgrade ... is that too much to ask
for... I see other people from the oly forum visiting the sites
that have these new cameras coming out asking questions ... digging
for more info...just trying to find that elusive Uzi
replacement...WAKE UP OLYMPUS....your faithful flock is looking
elsewhere !!!!
WAKE UP OLYMPUS
How many are in the UZI upgrade/replaement hunt ???????????
Stand up and be counted !!!!!!
WAKE UP OLYMPUS
Bob

--
Bob Myers WB7SBW
2 - Olympus C21oo 2 - B3oo 1 - B-Macro
http://hillsidephotos.com/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos3/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos2/
http://members.cox.net/robert.myers1/
http://members.cox.net/robert.myers2/
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Bob -
Pie in the sky I fear !
Some time now since I heard the nitty-gritty of it .. and I think
it IS true ...Oly originally bought the IS rights from Canon for
the Uzi but they ran out and either Oly didn't then want to
renew...or Canon wanted too much - hence NO replacement Uzi
..except the poor relations now out.
I'm of the thought that Oly will never do the same. Panasonic do
of course the IS thing - how THEY do it I don't know ... maybe just
prepared to pay, as I think it IS still a Canon right ...after all
, THEY brought out the USM lenses and still do ...who else , is the
answer I think ??

--
ericN
Click to expand...
--
Bob Myers WB7SBW
2 - Olympus C21oo 2 - B3oo 1 - B-Macro
http://hillsidephotos.com/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos3/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos2/
http://members.cox.net/robert.myers1/
http://members.cox.net/robert.myers2/
 
RickS said:
I'm with you, Bob. As nice as the FZs are, they are still not
really an upgrade from the UZI. I haven't found anything that is.

Oly, I'm hangin' on, but I don't know for how much longer. Get on
with it or I'll be gone. (Bob, too.)

Rick
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2 - Olympus C21oo 2 - B3oo 1 - B-Macro
http://hillsidephotos.com/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos3/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos2/
http://members.cox.net/robert.myers1/
http://members.cox.net/robert.myers2/
 
... the frustration club that is LOL... I am afraid I am going to wear out my Uzi before something arrives on the scene LOL
Thanks for your input Jørgen
Bob
Jørgen Christensen said:
Hi Bob
I am also looking around too see if there is an UZI upgrade camera
for me some place.
I have also the 750UZ but it is not the UZI replacement camera...
It is not a bad camera at all. In fact it is great and I use it a
lot but I keep returning to my UZI...
I have lots of equipment for these cameras and would like to
continue buying Olympus BUT WHAT CAN I BUY TO REPLACE THE UZI???

I have always bought Olympus equipment and have been happy with
it... I started with an OM10 then OM2 etc. The lenses are great and
the image colors from their digicam's are excellent.

I am just a little frustrated..

Kind regards Jørgen
http://www.pbase.com/jchriste
Click to expand...
--
Bob Myers WB7SBW
2 - Olympus C21oo 2 - B3oo 1 - B-Macro
http://hillsidephotos.com/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos3/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos2/
http://members.cox.net/robert.myers1/
http://members.cox.net/robert.myers2/
 
I've got my eye on the Nikon 8800. Hopefully the noise characteristics are better than the current 8mp cameras.

DSLR is what I really want, but without the hassle. So it's prosumer for now.

Oly did it right the first time around with the UZI - it's time to do it again!
Bob Myers1 said:
...First I want to say my two C2100Uzi's have served me very well
and squeeze more out of 2 megapixels than any other camera....IMHO
Searchin for the the elusive Uzi upgrade......
First Panasonic released the FZ10 ..nice..but didnt think that was
for me...now the FZ20....I thought this would be the one..great
price and got to play with the FZ20 that I suggested my bro in law
buy...liked it but it didnt make me want to rush out and buy one...
not yet anyway... then Nikon anounced the 8800... that looks very
interesting..all in one sounds great....watching for reviews...and
now Konica-Minolta announced the 7D... a DSLR with the sabilization
in the body...and other neat features....so I got another with
great potential to drool over the specs for.....Olympus has made a
little splash with a tease of a consumer grade E1.... but where is
Olys big splash... an UZI upgrade ... is that too much to ask
for... I see other people from the oly forum visiting the sites
that have these new cameras coming out asking questions ... digging
for more info...just trying to find that elusive Uzi
replacement...WAKE UP OLYMPUS....your faithful flock is looking
elsewhere !!!!
WAKE UP OLYMPUS
How many are in the UZI upgrade/replaement hunt ???????????
Stand up and be counted !!!!!!
WAKE UP OLYMPUS
Bob

--
Bob Myers WB7SBW
2 - Olympus C21oo 2 - B3oo 1 - B-Macro
http://hillsidephotos.com/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos3/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos2/
http://members.cox.net/robert.myers1/
http://members.cox.net/robert.myers2/
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.... it probably would be over $1000 ...... but I would sure take a serious look at it... probably buy it. The FZ 20 seems to be a good camera.... I am tempted...
Thanks for the input
Bob
wymjym said:
Jørgen Christensen said:
Hi Bob
I am also looking around too see if there is an UZI upgrade camera
for me some place.
I have also the 750UZ but it is not the UZI replacement camera...
It is not a bad camera at all. In fact it is great and I use it a
lot but I keep returning to my UZI...
I have lots of equipment for these cameras and would like to
continue buying Olympus BUT WHAT CAN I BUY TO REPLACE THE UZI???

I have always bought Olympus equipment and have been happy with
it... I started with an OM10 then OM2 etc. The lenses are great and
the image colors from their digicam's are excellent.

I am just a little frustrated..

Kind regards Jørgen
http://www.pbase.com/jchriste
Click to expand...
--
C-770
Click to expand...
--
Bob Myers WB7SBW
2 - Olympus C21oo 2 - B3oo 1 - B-Macro
http://hillsidephotos.com/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos3/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos2/
http://members.cox.net/robert.myers1/
http://members.cox.net/robert.myers2/
 
... it sounds like you have got the setup with the Canon.... at this time I feel like I will also keep one of my Uzis as a backup or as you do ... take it where it is too risky for the dslr... smart plan.
Thanks for your input Marty.
Bob
Marty Schultz said:
wymjym said:
Hi Everyone,
I’m afraid that I cannot afford what would be the Oly successor to
the 2100.
Let’s assume that the 2100 was a $1000 camera when it came out (not
the 1350 or so that it was introduced at).
Click to expand...
That's what I paid when I got mine, about 2 months after it hit the
stores.
Marty Schultz said:
I know that most people assume that with electronics we always get
a lot more for a lot less as time goes by and that is typically so
but for the sake of this argument lets just try to keep
improvements on a linear basis with price.
Click to expand...
Cameras don't quite follow that trend because of the lens, better
and bigger lenses cost more, even when mass produced.

The lens used in the 2100 was a canon lens, search back a year
before the 2100 came out and there was a news release that canon
had developed the lens and was going to sell it to other companies
to use. They must have stopped licensing it or something, since
there are now higher megapixel chips that would be useable with
that lens.

After going the DSLR route, I finally am back to what the 2100 had
after getting the 100-400 IS lens from Canon. Along with a wide
angle lens (don't need IS at less than 50mm). So for only $3000 to
$4000 you can get a DSLR body and 2 lenses to replace what the 2100
has.

Still use my D40 sometimes, when I need something I can put in a
jacket pocket.

The 2100 is now on hazard duty, I use it in situations that might
result in loss/damage to the camera (where I wouldn't want to lose
my DSLR).

--
Later,
Marty

http://science.widener.edu/~schultz/digipicts.html
Click to expand...
--
Bob Myers WB7SBW
2 - Olympus C21oo 2 - B3oo 1 - B-Macro
http://hillsidephotos.com/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos3/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos/
http://members.cox.net/digiphotos2/
http://members.cox.net/robert.myers1/
http://members.cox.net/robert.myers2/
 
Brian,

Water logged and blown away you still have a way of putting things that is refreshing.

I agree for the most part, and agree with others like Vern who still find the UZI to be a non-replaceable image maker.

For me, the feature set and the image quality including color and fidelity are so-far not matched, and then consider the low light and IR performance and I find that there isn't a replacement on the scene.

Will the new crop including the "N" and "KM" offering make inroads? I'm one that thinks they will fail. Ignorant as it may be my thoughts are that the KM will have significant QA troubles and the "N" thingy will be frought with image quality issues, all based on what we have seen recently if you follow the other foums.

I'm one that is going to play like the "fly-on-the-wall" and wait.

If there ever is an UZI replacement it will have a high hurdel to cross in my view, much less the EZI.

Best Regards,

--
John,

'Lord help me to be the man my labrador thought I was'
 
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