Folks seem to be saying 8mp is not enough for Oly.

Shadco · Sep 21, 2004

It would be enough for me if...

1. Oly improved the camera processing to allow instant image review with blinkies and histo ala Nikon D2 series.

2. Oly were able to improve focusing speed and include a few more af spots and better low light capability.

3. Oly gave the same or better High ISO preformance (800 to 1600) as the D2H.

4. Oly kept their advantage in metering and color rendition.

5. Give me 5+fps and a larger buffer.

Combine the above with 4/3rds image format and My D2H would find itself on the block.

2/3rds size sensors have me throwing away a bunch from the top and bottom of the vertical shots I take which are most of the sports and action shooting I do so 8mp in 4/3rds format is really the equiv of more using other dslr formats.

I can hope can't I?

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Freddy227046 · Sep 21, 2004

Yes it would be great... but don't hope too much... it will be a lower version of the actual E-1...

Shadco said:
It would be enough for me if...

1. Oly improved the camera processing to allow instant image review
with blinkies and histo ala Nikon D2 series.

2. Oly were able to improve focusing speed and include a few more
af spots and better low light capability.

3. Oly gave the same or better High ISO preformance (800 to 1600)
as the D2H.

4. Oly kept their advantage in metering and color rendition.

5. Give me 5+fps and a larger buffer.

Combine the above with 4/3rds image format and My D2H would find
itself on the block.

2/3rds size sensors have me throwing away a bunch from the top and
bottom of the vertical shots I take which are most of the sports
and action shooting I do so 8mp in 4/3rds format is really the
equiv of more using other dslr formats.

I can hope can't I?

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Mark Antony-Franklin · Sep 21, 2004

You mean, you'd be prepared to buy an improved upon Hyundai, Shad?! LOL!!

Fine wish list by the way ...all things are crossed here, that some if not all, are granted!

Best regards

Mark
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Shadco said:
It would be enough for me if...

1. Oly improved the camera processing to allow instant image review
with blinkies and histo ala Nikon D2 series.

2. Oly were able to improve focusing speed and include a few more
af spots and better low light capability.

3. Oly gave the same or better High ISO preformance (800 to 1600)
as the D2H.

4. Oly kept their advantage in metering and color rendition.

5. Give me 5+fps and a larger buffer.

Combine the above with 4/3rds image format and My D2H would find
itself on the block.

2/3rds size sensors have me throwing away a bunch from the top and
bottom of the vertical shots I take which are most of the sports
and action shooting I do so 8mp in 4/3rds format is really the
equiv of more using other dslr formats.

I can hope can't I?

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Shadco · Sep 21, 2004

Freddy said:
Yes it would be great... but don't hope too much... it will be a
lower version of the actual E-1...

Freddy
The most important thing in life, is to get out of bed in the
morning...

It didn't say it had to be the next Oly off the block.

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Xoom · Sep 21, 2004

1. Number one on my list is improved AF performance. Faster & at least 7-point & better low light capability.

2. Pop-up flash.

3. Overall more responsive... Sub 1 sec. start, shoot to review, CF write time, etc.

4. 4fps mechanical shutter & 8fps electronic shutter with at least 28 frame buffer (wishful thinking)

5. Better high ISO performance equivalent to the current benchmark, 20D. (another wishful thinking)

6. More lenses... especially IS/VR type & fast f1.4 primes (all at reasonable prices, not equivalent to competitor 2x lens!)

tok · Sep 21, 2004

except for the 5th point - would be suprised if they pull 5fps out the bag.

I'd certainly EXPECT to see points 1-4 in the E1 replacement, and require them for me to upgrade.

regards
tok

Shadco said:
It would be enough for me if...

1. Oly improved the camera processing to allow instant image review
with blinkies and histo ala Nikon D2 series.

2. Oly were able to improve focusing speed and include a few more
af spots and better low light capability.

3. Oly gave the same or better High ISO preformance (800 to 1600)
as the D2H.

4. Oly kept their advantage in metering and color rendition.

5. Give me 5+fps and a larger buffer.

Combine the above with 4/3rds image format and My D2H would find
itself on the block.

2/3rds size sensors have me throwing away a bunch from the top and
bottom of the vertical shots I take which are most of the sports
and action shooting I do so 8mp in 4/3rds format is really the
equiv of more using other dslr formats.

I can hope can't I?

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osloray · Sep 21, 2004

So rather a pop-flash than water resistance?

Xoom said:
1. Number one on my list is improved AF performance. Faster & at
least 7-point & better low light capability.

2. Pop-up flash.

3. Overall more responsive... Sub 1 sec. start, shoot to review, CF
write time, etc.

4. 4fps mechanical shutter & 8fps electronic shutter with at least
28 frame buffer (wishful thinking)

5. Better high ISO performance equivalent to the current benchmark,
20D. (another wishful thinking)

6. More lenses... especially IS/VR type & fast f1.4 primes (all at
reasonable prices, not equivalent to competitor 2x lens!)

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Franka T.L. · Sep 21, 2004

Sure enough for the sport or portrait shooter, but for landscape where the details are so minute and finely lay out in such high density. even 8 MP is alearly not making it. So do my Macro shoots who can beneift from any more detail definition captured.

For once, I think Nikon got it right with the D2X, addressing that some need the extra pixel, and yet some need the extra speed & reach.

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Franka

Shadco · Sep 21, 2004

Franka T.L. said:
Sure enough for the sport or portrait shooter, but for landscape
where the details are so minute and finely lay out in such high
density. even 8 MP is alearly not making it. So do my Macro shoots
who can beneift from any more detail definition captured.

For once, I think Nikon got it right with the D2X, addressing that
some need the extra pixel, and yet some need the extra speed &
reach.

--
Franka

My biggest concern with Nikon's new offering is framng acurately in cropped mode with the Big viewfinder, and I prefer Oly's metering. Then if you take 8MP in 2/3rds mode I'm pretty sure I'll be dumping a fair number of pixels to get the crop I want, usually 8x10

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a t o m i c · Sep 21, 2004

Xoom said:
1. Number one on my list is improved AF performance. Faster & at
least 7-point & better low light capability.

?

Xoom said:
2. Pop-up flash.

Dear me, no.

Xoom said:
3. Overall more responsive... Sub 1 sec. start, shoot to review, CF
write time, etc.

Shoot to review could be a little faster, but start-up and CF write speed is already top notch!

Xoom said:
4. 4fps mechanical shutter & 8fps electronic shutter with at least
28 frame buffer (wishful thinking)

Why? You could get an HD camcorder.

Xoom said:
5. Better high ISO performance equivalent to the current benchmark,
20D. (another wishful thinking)

I don't want the same weird, smooth look and crappy DR as the 20D - I'd be perfectly happy with a 1-2 stop improvement over the E-1's current performance.

Xoom said:
6. More lenses... especially IS/VR type & fast f1.4 primes (all at
reasonable prices, not equivalent to competitor 2x lens!)

I'd definitely like some fast primes, but I think the lens roadmap already includes a couple of those.

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digital ed · Sep 21, 2004

Hi Shad,

I own and use regularly the E-1 and C-8080. I bought the C-8080 for two reasons. The first was to have a good point and shoot to carry around that was not a big as my E-1 kit. At least that was what I was telling myself when I was deciding to buy it. The second was to get experience with 8 MP. In retrospect I think that this was the main reason.

My experience is that there is a significant difference between pictures taken with the E-1 and the C-8080. The C-8080 is appreciably sharper with little PP sharpening. I just printed a 13 by 19 from the C-8080 I took this weekend and it is stunningly sharp. Cannot achieve that with the E-1.

If the new E-X is 8 MP I will not be interested. However, if it is 12 MP, I will not be able to keep myself from buying it.

Best regards,

Ed

Mark Antony-Franklin · Sep 22, 2004

Ed

You took the words right outta my mouth!

If Oly do the honourable thing

...and the E-3 is 12Mp ...I'm an Olympus user again, immediately ...subject to features and noise testing of course!

Regards

Mark
http://www.olympus-e3.com

digital ed said:
Hi Shad,

I own and use regularly the E-1 and C-8080. I bought the C-8080
for two reasons. The first was to have a good point and shoot to
carry around that was not a big as my E-1 kit. At least that was
what I was telling myself when I was deciding to buy it. The
second was to get experience with 8 MP. In retrospect I think that
this was the main reason.
My experience is that there is a significant difference between
pictures taken with the E-1 and the C-8080. The C-8080 is
appreciably sharper with little PP sharpening. I just printed a 13
by 19 from the C-8080 I took this weekend and it is stunningly
sharp. Cannot achieve that with the E-1.
If the new E-X is 8 MP I will not be interested. However, if it is
12 MP, I will not be able to keep myself from buying it.

Best regards,

Ed

Rich · Sep 22, 2004

Shadco said:
Which piano should I buy if I want to play like Mozart?

A player piano

digital ed · Sep 22, 2004

Mark,

I will initially assume that the noise level of a 12 MP E-X will be better than that in the C-8080, which does not compare with the E-1 (larger sensor) for level or characteristics. But, do expect the noise level of a 12 MP E-X will be higher than the E-1 (smaller photo sites). That is a trade-off I will accept.

By the way, my comments do not infer I am unhappy with my E-1. For pure film-like beautiful pictures it can't be beat. I would like more resolution with its picture characteristics.

Best regards,

Ed

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