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They are going to be very different beasts with very different noise curves - I don't hink this will influence Canon in the slightest.

Apparently some people have reported good noise charcteristics from the D2x. but Nikon have tended to be over-optimistic about this sort of thing in the past.

There is also a loot of new technology in it, ranging from software to precvent highlight blow-out, to integrating DxO.

All of that has to be proven, and none of it is comparable to the tried and tested Canon technology.

Tehy might start worrying (a little) if everything works, and if Nikon can also produce them in any quantity.
Ashley Cheng said:
Will that bring down the price of the coming 1DsmkII? Hopefully.
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Mark Wells said:
ISO 1600 and 3200 are available, much like 50 and 3200 are
available on 1D with iso expansion.

And for Silken,

Somehow a 1D and 1Ds wrapped in one body is not good for
competition? Full frame is only an advantage if smaller format
chips necessarily produce higher noise. Canon has proved higher
noise is not necessarily a product of smaller sensors with the 20D.

Now, why OH WHY has canon not produced a 17-55mm zoom?

A Canon user (1D, 1D MkII, 10D) thinking about switching to Nikon.
Silken said:
This is not good for competition.

Well, at least it doesn't make me regret the decision I made to
switch over to the dark side almost two years ago, when the D2x S
H O U L D have been announced!

Oh, and c) why no 400, 500, and 600 VR?

-C
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... at the same magnification (normalized, i.e. in final output form such as a 4 x 6 print), DOF remains the same at a given f/ratio, regardless of focal length or sensor size!

I didn't believe this at first (and was a bit confused, as I use aperture as an absolute measurement and f/ratio as the relative) but it's the correct way of thinking.
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Steven Noyes said:
I will leave some of the other questions to others

Steven
Robert Whiteman said:
Jim Davidson said:
Steven Noyes said:
Full frame is only an advantage if smaller format
chips necessarily produce higher noise.
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I believe the 1Ds produces more noise that either the S2 or the 1D
mkII above ISO400 if not in all ISO speeds. We won't even bring up
the 14n/slr-n 'cause no one could keep a straight face. ;-)
Steven Noyes said:
Not true. There are other advantages to a larger sensor, such as
depth of field and improved (out of focus area, I can't remember
the word). Also, a large sensor will allow for greater dynamic
range.
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Now please explain the DOF & DR advantage produced by a FF sensor
over the smaller ones. DOF is the result of focal
length+aperture+subject distance. Just because the image is
"cropped" doesn't change the DOF at all. (the word is bokeh)

As for DR, let's see how the FF'ers stack up against the S3 once it
hits the street. I believe the S2 currently stacks up rather well
with the FF shooters in DR. Give it a look.
Steven Noyes said:
Not to mention lesser -potential- noise, and the fact that all of
my lenses focus on a full frame, not a small portion of a frame.
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Which is why FF digital has problems on the edges with wider
lenses. Anyone and everyone understands why. This is not a hidden
fact concerning FF's and will be a difficulty until the technology
finds a solution. Film, with its flat surface and lower resolution
due to grain and other factors didn't show these defects like the
hi-rez FF's. Until this is solved I'll keep with the smaller
capture device in a SLR body. MF digi backs are another story and
I've yet to hear of this problem with those.

Robert
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no you can't because the nikon 1,5x lenses don't have diaph rings.
jack stephens said:
dogmatic said:
Steven Noyes said:
Nikon also introduces a new (read non-DX crop factor) so people
that want to use a 10.5mm Fish-eye with high speed sports will no
need a DX-2 lens series.
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Still, chances are Nikon will actually make a fisheye for that x2
crop, whereas us Canon-owners still don't have a 1.3x or 1.6x crop
fisheye... which frankly is ridiculous.
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Sure you can, just use a backdrop!

Greg
Peter (B) said:
The size of the sensor is crucial for the depth of field and hence
the bokeh. Just try to get a nice portrait shot with even a top of
the line consumer digicam like the Canon PowerShot Pro1 with a 2/3"
(8.80 x 6.60 mm) sensor.

You won't be able to get it, and that's not because of the noise
but because of the too great depth of field.The reason for that is
a little bit complicated. There are 2 effects at play, namely:
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1600 or 3200. Still not an option for me. Priced at the same price as the MKII with the buttery smooth time tested and proven Canon CMOS. Hmm, choice becomes kinda easy....

:-)
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