D2X and F6 : OFFICIAL PRESENTATION to RESELLERS

No, it's 6.9 mp. I did the math. It will be confirm when Nikon makes its press release. As for whether Nikon is dumb doing it, they are not. It allows for flexability in situations where you can't get close enough. Great for Wildlife and Bird photography, assuming the ISO 800 is usuable.

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Tony

http://homepage.mac.com/a5m http://www.pbase.com/a5m
-- Crop x2 = 8fps / 6.9
MP (I don't remember how many pictures in the buffer then)
'nuf said
This would be such a bonehead move I'd think Nikon was taken over
by retards.
What he probably meant is that the math isn't right. One would
expect 7.9MP, not 6.9.
 
I'm utterly convinced there's nothing behind all of this conjecture. Anyway, this guy thinks there's going to be an F6 announcement. That's obviously not true, since it's not registered a mere three days before it's supposed to be announced! That's crazy talk.

Al
 
Having a Camera that's both a 1.5x and 2.0x crop would be
handy, but 2.0x on an SLR would be almost too small to compose
anything.
I'm irritated enough by my incy-wincy 1.5x viewfinder. A 2.0x finder would be even smaller. It just seems silly. It would make more sense, wouldn't it, to just use the 1.5x and have the camera throw out half the data to give it a smaller file to process and, in turn, allowing it to shoot twice as fast. The whole idea of an EXTRA crop just really turns me off.

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Al
Set low goals and you'll never be disapointed.
 
How come Canon does not show trademark registration until the day of an announcement??
I'm utterly convinced there's nothing behind all of this
conjecture. Anyway, this guy thinks there's going to be an F6
announcement. That's obviously not true, since it's not registered
a mere three days before it's supposed to be announced! That's
crazy talk.

Al
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Dayton in SC USA - PBase Supporter
http://www.pbase.com/daytontp/ -- More Than 181,051 Views
 
I just did the number math below and a 2.0x crop of FF is equal to
a 1.3333x crop of a 1.5x sensor. So, with the 2.0x crop setting it
is almost like putting a 1.4x TC on any lens you mount on the
camera. Now, how many people use a 1.4x TC on long primes to get a
little extra reach???
The difference is that you'd end up with an even smaller viewfinder than the tiny one we're already forced to use. Remember the good ole'days when we had big, bright viewfinders when film was still in vogue? I do, and I miss my big viewfinder.
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Al
Set low goals and you'll never be disapointed.
 
I'm not sure what Canon does, but Nikon does things differently. My proof? The fact that the D2x has been reigstered for months and months. Now why on earth would they register one product and not another?

Tradition holds that Nikon registers it's products far in advance. Maybe they've changed their strategy. Doubtful.

Al
I'm utterly convinced there's nothing behind all of this
conjecture. Anyway, this guy thinks there's going to be an F6
announcement. That's obviously not true, since it's not registered
a mere three days before it's supposed to be announced! That's
crazy talk.

Al
--
Dayton in SC USA - PBase Supporter
http://www.pbase.com/daytontp/ -- More Than 181,051 Views
--
Al
Set low goals and you'll never be disapointed.
 
What would you rather have:
2.0x crop with a smaller viewfinder and all the sharpness of the lens
or
the 1.5x viewfinder and a 1.4x TC and reduced sharpness of the lens

????
I just did the number math below and a 2.0x crop of FF is equal to
a 1.3333x crop of a 1.5x sensor. So, with the 2.0x crop setting it
is almost like putting a 1.4x TC on any lens you mount on the
camera. Now, how many people use a 1.4x TC on long primes to get a
little extra reach???
The difference is that you'd end up with an even smaller viewfinder
than the tiny one we're already forced to use. Remember the good
ole'days when we had big, bright viewfinders when film was still in
vogue? I do, and I miss my big viewfinder.
--
Al
Set low goals and you'll never be disapointed.
--
Dayton in SC USA - PBase Supporter
http://www.pbase.com/daytontp/ -- More Than 181,051 Views
 
Maybe it is because product announced != product manufactured.
Tradition holds that Nikon registers it's products far in advance.
Maybe they've changed their strategy. Doubtful.

Al
I'm utterly convinced there's nothing behind all of this
conjecture. Anyway, this guy thinks there's going to be an F6
announcement. That's obviously not true, since it's not registered
a mere three days before it's supposed to be announced! That's
crazy talk.

Al
--
Dayton in SC USA - PBase Supporter
http://www.pbase.com/daytontp/ -- More Than 181,051 Views
--
Al
Set low goals and you'll never be disapointed.
 
How about a 1.5x crop where the camera chooses to throw out the data form the sensor to give you a smaller image, but with less data to process allowing it to shoot at a higher speed? That way you dont lose your sharpness (it would be similar to downsampling the image in photoshop) and don't have to have a silly 2.0x viewfinder or the extra mechanics/expense that would no doubt be involved in such a venture. My solution could be acchieved almost entirely in the firmware, assuming the shutter drive motor is capable of the higher speeds (they could re-issue the same engine in the D2h).

Al
????
I just did the number math below and a 2.0x crop of FF is equal to
a 1.3333x crop of a 1.5x sensor. So, with the 2.0x crop setting it
is almost like putting a 1.4x TC on any lens you mount on the
camera. Now, how many people use a 1.4x TC on long primes to get a
little extra reach???
The difference is that you'd end up with an even smaller viewfinder
than the tiny one we're already forced to use. Remember the good
ole'days when we had big, bright viewfinders when film was still in
vogue? I do, and I miss my big viewfinder.
--
Al
Set low goals and you'll never be disapointed.
--
Dayton in SC USA - PBase Supporter
http://www.pbase.com/daytontp/ -- More Than 181,051 Views
--
Al
Set low goals and you'll never be disapointed.
 
It saves having to crop all that data out later and if you still get RAW mode, it saves space up front if you don't need the resolution of you need detail at a distance.

It works with my style and I'd love it.

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Tony

http://homepage.mac.com/a5m http://www.pbase.com/a5m
Having a Camera that's both a 1.5x and 2.0x crop would be
handy, but 2.0x on an SLR would be almost too small to compose
anything.
I'm irritated enough by my incy-wincy 1.5x viewfinder. A 2.0x
finder would be even smaller. It just seems silly. It would make
more sense, wouldn't it, to just use the 1.5x and have the camera
throw out half the data to give it a smaller file to process and,
in turn, allowing it to shoot twice as fast. The whole idea of an
EXTRA crop just really turns me off.

--
Al
Set low goals and you'll never be disapointed.
 
What I'm saying is: Why would they have to have a 2.0x crop as opposed to having the camera just shrink the filesize? With less data it could process the images twice as fast, in theory, and shoot more quickly, without having to engineer a double-purpose viewfinder for the thing. Just a straight 1.5x crop with dual frame rates.

Al
It works with my style and I'd love it.

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Tony

http://homepage.mac.com/a5m http://www.pbase.com/a5m
Having a Camera that's both a 1.5x and 2.0x crop would be
handy, but 2.0x on an SLR would be almost too small to compose
anything.
I'm irritated enough by my incy-wincy 1.5x viewfinder. A 2.0x
finder would be even smaller. It just seems silly. It would make
more sense, wouldn't it, to just use the 1.5x and have the camera
throw out half the data to give it a smaller file to process and,
in turn, allowing it to shoot twice as fast. The whole idea of an
EXTRA crop just really turns me off.

--
Al
Set low goals and you'll never be disapointed.
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Al
Set low goals and you'll never be disapointed.
 
Now I'm even more convinced the original post is right - you're too cocky about dismissing it and it's poetic justice when you eat some crow in 2 days. :)

Joe
I'm utterly convinced there's nothing behind all of this
conjecture. Anyway, this guy thinks there's going to be an F6
announcement. That's obviously not true, since it's not registered
a mere three days before it's supposed to be announced! That's
crazy talk.

Al
 
I've got a hat and plenty of salt and pepper. But I don't think I'm going to need it.

We know at least half of his post is incorrect - the F6. If that half is misinformed, it's likely the other half is no more accurate.
 
What you suggested works for JPEG, but not NEF. Plus throwing data after capture does not help the camera's I/O system too much.
Al
It works with my style and I'd love it.

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Tony

http://homepage.mac.com/a5m http://www.pbase.com/a5m
Having a Camera that's both a 1.5x and 2.0x crop would be
handy, but 2.0x on an SLR would be almost too small to compose
anything.
I'm irritated enough by my incy-wincy 1.5x viewfinder. A 2.0x
finder would be even smaller. It just seems silly. It would make
more sense, wouldn't it, to just use the 1.5x and have the camera
throw out half the data to give it a smaller file to process and,
in turn, allowing it to shoot twice as fast. The whole idea of an
EXTRA crop just really turns me off.

--
Al
Set low goals and you'll never be disapointed.
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Al
Set low goals and you'll never be disapointed.
 
You can't completely trust that trademark thingie, F6 is coming in less than 48 hours... ;-)
Tradition holds that Nikon registers it's products far in advance.
Maybe they've changed their strategy. Doubtful.

Al
I'm utterly convinced there's nothing behind all of this
conjecture. Anyway, this guy thinks there's going to be an F6
announcement. That's obviously not true, since it's not registered
a mere three days before it's supposed to be announced! That's
crazy talk.

Al
--
Dayton in SC USA - PBase Supporter
http://www.pbase.com/daytontp/ -- More Than 181,051 Views
--
Al
Set low goals and you'll never be disapointed.
 
Thanks, Dayton.

I will gladly take the 12.4 with 5 fps and a 15 frame raw buffer. In fact, I can't wait - and for under $5,000. This is exactly what I have been waiting for - IF noise, etc is not a problem.

Steve Bingham
http://www.dustylens.com
 

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