Are there other good cameras, YES.

Man, that was a good picture you took. Great color and lighting. Sharp as a tack. Do you remember what lens you were using?
I have a Canon Digital Camera and a 6 month old baby boy. You know
what that means. I have taken great pictures with my canon and I
love it. I will probably keep it until the sensor blows up or
something. I wanted to buy a new DSLR because I love taking
pictures. I want a DSLR with fast performance and good image
quality for around $1000. I have ordered a Nikon D70.

1. 1/500 sec flash sync
2. Immediate start up to shoot time
3. 3 shot bursts continuous for at least 17 shots and supposedly
144 shots using a sandisk 256MB ultraII.
4. Great shutter lag performance.
5. At least as good or better image quality than the D100 which
according to the reviews, was pretty good. I'm not printing giant
photos.
6. The price is right
7. The camera looks good. I'm not big money. For $1000, I want a
camera that looks good. I want to be happy with my $1000 dollar
purchase.

Canon should not engineer more downgrades into their next $1000
DSLR! The 1D MkII looks great but its not $1000 either. Nikon right
now has nothing to match it in my opinion. The D70 in its class,
seems to be for right now, ahead of the pack in terms of sheer
value and quality. I have a Canon. I have never owned a Nikon. I
have owned other digital cameras. I like what the D70 has to offer.
I am keeping my Canon and I have a D70 on order. Canon, Nikon,
Olympus, Sony and Fuji all make some nice cameras. Overall I think
Canon is on top, but I am not so narrow minded as to get caught up
in a name and miss a decent deal. My last name is not Canon.
Hence the D70.
 
To order something that has not yet been released is not very smart, especially where cameras are concerned. We all know by now that you will give up something in return for the lower price of that model as compared to Nikon's higher prices models, and if it is picture quality like many are already quessing from the sample photos, then all the extra features are worthless. In the end, the picture quality is what it all comes down to. You should at least wait until the camera is released, and reviews are out. WAY to much is made of the rebels few missing features, and WAY to many people are blaming these missing features for their own lack of unlearned skills. If you are not willing to except a little common sense, then by all mean, go for it.....
 
She was sitting in front of the window. You can see the full EXIF here if you're curious

http://www.pbase.com/image/26081882

Again thanks for the kind words, I'm still very new at this. I've only had the camera for a little less than 3 weeks and it's my first SLR
I have a Canon Digital Camera and a 6 month old baby boy. You know
what that means. I have taken great pictures with my canon and I
love it. I will probably keep it until the sensor blows up or
something. I wanted to buy a new DSLR because I love taking
pictures. I want a DSLR with fast performance and good image
quality for around $1000. I have ordered a Nikon D70.

1. 1/500 sec flash sync
2. Immediate start up to shoot time
3. 3 shot bursts continuous for at least 17 shots and supposedly
144 shots using a sandisk 256MB ultraII.
4. Great shutter lag performance.
5. At least as good or better image quality than the D100 which
according to the reviews, was pretty good. I'm not printing giant
photos.
6. The price is right
7. The camera looks good. I'm not big money. For $1000, I want a
camera that looks good. I want to be happy with my $1000 dollar
purchase.

Canon should not engineer more downgrades into their next $1000
DSLR! The 1D MkII looks great but its not $1000 either. Nikon right
now has nothing to match it in my opinion. The D70 in its class,
seems to be for right now, ahead of the pack in terms of sheer
value and quality. I have a Canon. I have never owned a Nikon. I
have owned other digital cameras. I like what the D70 has to offer.
I am keeping my Canon and I have a D70 on order. Canon, Nikon,
Olympus, Sony and Fuji all make some nice cameras. Overall I think
Canon is on top, but I am not so narrow minded as to get caught up
in a name and miss a decent deal. My last name is not Canon.
Hence the D70.
 
Look at this link. There is even a 300D in one of the pictures.
http://www.fotop.net/muchswatch/muchswatch03
Someone just posted pics from his new D70 and they don't look very
good, here is the link:
http://www.japanwindow.com

For everyone's sake, I hope that the pics would be better than that
...it would only force Canon to advance. Too bad the D70 camera
doesn't look like stiff competition.

Regards,
Mike

--
300D Gallery:
http://tkis.com/wild-mike/

Joy in looking and comprehending is nature's most beautiful gift.
-- Albert Einstein

 
Yes you can argue to trying to make people aware of whats out there... but this should be done in the appropriate manufacturers forum.
Trolls can be objectionable, so can the Horse Blinder Enforcement Officer. Think about what you are suggesting. Noone could try things out, change is forbidden. Worship and praise your first product purchase forever. Do not fold, spindle, or mutilate. That's not good either.

Stan
 
There is still detectable noise even at 200 ISO, based upon the noise seen so far I would not jump to conclusions just yet. I would have hoped that Nikon presented a threat to Canon which will only create a better situation for Canon users.

But it isn't looking too good so far.

I will keep my fingers crossed and hope that these initial images are flukes. I am looking forward to upgrading to another Canon sometime in the future.

Regards,
Mike
 
..without the level of unnecessary effort associated with the 300D. Earlier another had posted about having a 300D and desiring a Drebel. In making that move, this individual would have to drop feature after feature he already has with the older camera. These are not just "word processor features" where most folks use only 2% of the capability. Some are basic things that are not new and are very helpful when you take pictures. They increase the odds in your favor of getting more good shots in a batch.

Stan
 
When Canon introduced its 300D, Phil wrote he did not think that at
this price Canon was making any profit on it. Now comes the
supercharged D70, almost as cheap as the 300D, with better on-paper
specification than the D100 or 10D. How Nikon can cope with that,
knowing they are already down of 95% on their profit this year due
to the price war? Two ideas: it is a last suicidal move of a dying
company or it is just done to cut down the sells of the 300D, while
in fact very few D70 will be produced. Of course, anyway Nikon is
killing also the D100, but maybe they are not selling a lot of them
anymore? Whatever the truth behind the stage, someting strange
going on in the battle to survive for Nikon with the D70 move.
Those are some good observations. I honestly think Canon shot down the 10D when they came with the Rebel D. I know folks on here have moaned about the features the 10D has that are missing in the Rebel D, but the bottom line is that there are surely thousands of users like me that appreciate just what you get in the Rebel D for the price and the size and weight. Now the Rebel D came at the height of the 10D model run, while the Nikon D70 has come pretty well at the end of the D100 model run. I doubt they have any more of those cameras to sell, so a D70 takeover is an acceptable given.

Canon on the other hand, has a real problem in deciding how to resolve two similar camera models in the coming months. They are going to have to do something that will up stage both of them and push Nikon back into its hole again. I think we can expect something big by summer. I had made up my mind to spring for a D1mkII, thinking it was likely to come in at the latest D1 prices, but it looks like it will be nearly $1500 above that. I just don't think I can justify a $4500 camera at this point. I can justify a $1500 one, though especially if it is an obvious step above my 10D and Rebel D.

I definitely couldn't move over to a Nikon D70, though I would love to have a high end CCD camera. If I were going to make a move to Nikon glass it would probably be to the Fuji S3. That one is in the price range and is probably the sleeper camera at this point in time. Anyone with Nikon lenses should honestly give it a long look.
--
Dave Lewis
 
I have a Canon Digital Camera and a 6 month old baby boy. You know
what that means. I have taken great pictures with my canon and I
love it. I will probably keep it until the sensor blows up or
something. I wanted to buy a new DSLR because I love taking
pictures. I want a DSLR with fast performance and good image
quality for around $1000. I have ordered a Nikon D70.

1. 1/500 sec flash sync
2. Immediate start up to shoot time
3. 3 shot bursts continuous for at least 17 shots and supposedly
144 shots using a sandisk 256MB ultraII.
4. Great shutter lag performance.
5. At least as good or better image quality than the D100 which
according to the reviews, was pretty good. I'm not printing giant
photos.
6. The price is right
7. The camera looks good. I'm not big money. For $1000, I want a
camera that looks good. I want to be happy with my $1000 dollar
purchase.

Canon should not engineer more downgrades into their next $1000
DSLR! The 1D MkII looks great but its not $1000 either. Nikon right
now has nothing to match it in my opinion. The D70 in its class,
seems to be for right now, ahead of the pack in terms of sheer
value and quality. I have a Canon. I have never owned a Nikon. I
have owned other digital cameras. I like what the D70 has to offer.
I am keeping my Canon and I have a D70 on order. Canon, Nikon,
Olympus, Sony and Fuji all make some nice cameras. Overall I think
Canon is on top, but I am not so narrow minded as to get caught up
in a name and miss a decent deal. My last name is not Canon.
Hence the D70.
 
If you read the rest of my post I am not saying this. All I am saying is that prostelatizing a particular camera in an opposing manufacturers forum is asking for trouble. If someone requests some advice thats another thing... then its fair game. People should have the wherewithall to do their own research. Prostelitizing a camera like seems to be akin to a religous crusade for some people and the number of repetitive protaginistic posts these people post get quite annoying when trying to sort through the rubbish for this forums more frequent users. This is especially obscene when people are touting the proven superiority of a yet to be released unproven camera. I am not saying that they cant post here... I am just saying that they should use some common sense when posting.

-Jordan
Yes you can argue to trying to make people aware of whats out there... but this should be done in the appropriate manufacturers forum.
Trolls can be objectionable, so can the Horse Blinder Enforcement
Officer. Think about what you are suggesting. Noone could try
things out, change is forbidden. Worship and praise your first
product purchase forever. Do not fold, spindle, or mutilate.
That's not good either.

Stan
--
-Jordan
 
Sorry for the incoherency in the sentence structure... I hit the post button by accident instead of preview... but I hope you get the general idea of what Im saying.
-Jordan
Yes you can argue to trying to make people aware of whats out there... but this should be done in the appropriate manufacturers forum.
Trolls can be objectionable, so can the Horse Blinder Enforcement
Officer. Think about what you are suggesting. Noone could try
things out, change is forbidden. Worship and praise your first
product purchase forever. Do not fold, spindle, or mutilate.
That's not good either.

Stan
--
-Jordan
--
-Jordan
 
It's a 30% premium over a thousand-dollar DRebel. Don't overlook that. I personally wouldn't be willing to pay the premium unless the image quality were vastly and obviously superior... in reality I think they'll be lucky to equal it. For many hobbyists like me (and I represent the target demographic quite well I think) , a thousand bucks is already at the spending limit.
I have a Canon Digital Camera and a 6 month old baby boy. You know
what that means. I have taken great pictures with my canon and I
love it. I will probably keep it until the sensor blows up or
something. I wanted to buy a new DSLR because I love taking
pictures. I want a DSLR with fast performance and good image
quality for around $1000. I have ordered a Nikon D70.

1. 1/500 sec flash sync
2. Immediate start up to shoot time
3. 3 shot bursts continuous for at least 17 shots and supposedly
144 shots using a sandisk 256MB ultraII.
4. Great shutter lag performance.
5. At least as good or better image quality than the D100 which
according to the reviews, was pretty good. I'm not printing giant
photos.
6. The price is right
7. The camera looks good. I'm not big money. For $1000, I want a
camera that looks good. I want to be happy with my $1000 dollar
purchase.

Canon should not engineer more downgrades into their next $1000
DSLR! The 1D MkII looks great but its not $1000 either. Nikon right
now has nothing to match it in my opinion. The D70 in its class,
seems to be for right now, ahead of the pack in terms of sheer
value and quality. I have a Canon. I have never owned a Nikon. I
have owned other digital cameras. I like what the D70 has to offer.
I am keeping my Canon and I have a D70 on order. Canon, Nikon,
Olympus, Sony and Fuji all make some nice cameras. Overall I think
Canon is on top, but I am not so narrow minded as to get caught up
in a name and miss a decent deal. My last name is not Canon.
Hence the D70.
--
SFJP
http://www.pbase.com/sfjp
 
Each to their own indeed, you do realise that you've gone and bought a 300D for $1000, and now you're buying a D70for $1000, you'll keep the 300D 'til the sensor blows up right. Er....ok, that's $2000 not including lenses? You do have an idea what you could have bought for > $2000 don't you? Something aint right with your approach imo!

;-)
--
Kind Regards
DWBell
 
I never said that I have a 300D. I said that I have a Canon, and a 6 month old baby boy. I don't have a 300D.
Each to their own indeed, you do realise that you've gone and
bought a 300D for $1000, and now you're buying a D70for $1000,
you'll keep the 300D 'til the sensor blows up right. Er....ok,
that's $2000 not including lenses? You do have an idea what you
could have bought for > $2000 don't you? Something aint right with
your approach imo!

;-)
--
Kind Regards
DWBell
 
.....yep, misread your post. Appologies. The most important thing of course is to have something to keep taking pics of your boy.

:)
Each to their own indeed, you do realise that you've gone and
bought a 300D for $1000, and now you're buying a D70for $1000,
you'll keep the 300D 'til the sensor blows up right. Er....ok,
that's $2000 not including lenses? You do have an idea what you
could have bought for > $2000 don't you? Something aint right with
your approach imo!

;-)
--
Kind Regards
DWBell
--
Kind Regards
DWBell
 
Thanks man. I might post some. Of course, to me he is cute.
:)
I never said that I have a 300D. I said that I have a Canon, and a
6 month old baby boy. I don't have a 300D.
Each to their own indeed, you do realise that you've gone and
bought a 300D for $1000, and now you're buying a D70for $1000,
you'll keep the 300D 'til the sensor blows up right. Er....ok,
that's $2000 not including lenses? You do have an idea what you
could have bought for > $2000 don't you? Something aint right with
your approach imo!

;-)
--
Kind Regards
DWBell
--
Kind Regards
DWBell
 
Notice that I never stated which Model Canon Digital Camera that I
own. I will say that is not a 300D. I personally didn't like the
300D.
I held off calling you a troll, but dang man, you just opened yourself up to it.

You don't own a 300D, so you felt the need to tell the 300D forum that your not going to buy one and to bash the 300D, etc. in the process.

Heck, I might as well go into every other forum and tell others I'm not buying a Nikon, Pentax, Olympus, Fuji, etc., lmao.
--
Member of the 'I own a Canon and a Sony' Army
 
You posted one informative post in 300D, and it consisted of one line, actually just the name of the new Canon DSLR that came out last week.

The rest have been "BUY A D70", etc.

In this wonderful thread :
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=7691317

You say, and I quote

"The Rebel? It's a dog."

"How many different names did the 300D have anyway. canon could have done better. They should call it the 300 (d) is for down grade!"

--
Member of the 'I own a Canon and a Sony' Army
 
I think the 300D takes great photos. I just don't like it for different reasons. Who knows. It may take better photos than the D70 when all is said and done. Hopefully for 300D owners and D70 owners the difference is marginal. No one likes to have invested money in a flop. I can think of one camera recently that fell in that category. Now I would rather have the 300D by far than that camera. I've seen those two compared also. However this time I'm not going to say which camera I'm referring to.
Notice that I never stated which Model Canon Digital Camera that I
own. I will say that is not a 300D. I personally didn't like the
300D.
I held off calling you a troll, but dang man, you just opened
yourself up to it.

You don't own a 300D, so you felt the need to tell the 300D forum
that your not going to buy one and to bash the 300D, etc. in the
process.

Heck, I might as well go into every other forum and tell others I'm
not buying a Nikon, Pentax, Olympus, Fuji, etc., lmao.
--
Member of the 'I own a Canon and a Sony' Army
 

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