Canon R6 bad/washed out colors?

Thanks for posting that. I bought a refurb R6 from Canon for $1890 and hadn't seen Peter Gregg until now. Fun stuff!
good deal

if you look at the youtube comments to this video, you will see that it doesn't take a custom lut to solve, the poster talks about solving with Picture Style Editor and swing the purple hues more over towards blues which Peter eventually got to work
 
Curious what the outcome of this was ?
Good question; the OP posted small resampled images with the EXIF stripped away and never posted follow-up.
He didn't posted small resampled images with the EXIF stripped away. Those were screenshots from the raw and from the JPG using an image reader.
...which are still just as useless for helping to troubleshoot. Not that it matters, the OP never did reply last year either.
 
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My outcome was selling the R6 and be happy with the original R and the old 6D :)
Lightroom or no? I don’t often hear folks keeping the R, not that I’m disappointed. I actually miss its output at times. My R3 smokes it in performance though. But I’ll grant you the R had good rendering.
 
Curious what the outcome of this was ?
Good question; the OP posted small resampled images with the EXIF stripped away and never posted follow-up.
He didn't posted small resampled images with the EXIF stripped away. Those were screenshots from the raw and from the JPG using an image reader.
...which are still just as useless for helping to troubleshoot. Not that it matters, the OP never did reply last year either.
I'm here.

The outcome was that I eventually sold the R6. I'm now shooting with a Sony A7C2 and a Nikon Z5. Both cameras have great color.
 
My outcome was selling the R6 and be happy with the original R and the old 6D :)
Lightroom or no? I don’t often hear folks keeping the R, not that I’m disappointed. I actually miss its output at times. My R3 smokes it in performance though. But I’ll grant you the R had good rendering.

Yes Lightroom. I doubt they didn’t fixed the Color profiles for such a long time.

DPP looked the same. So it isn’t Lightroom.
 
My outcome was selling the R6 and be happy with the original R and the old 6D :)
Lightroom or no? I don’t often hear folks keeping the R, not that I’m disappointed. I actually miss its output at times. My R3 smokes it in performance though. But I’ll grant you the R had good rendering.
Yes Lightroom. I doubt they didn’t fixed the Color profiles for such a long time.
You'd think. However, I'm aware that two things happened on top of each other...

1. Adobe lost a large amount of their development resources to competitive attrition

2. Canon severed their cooperative partnership with Adobe

.

This happened right around when Adobe announced cloud / subscription licensing.

I wasn't briefed as to why, but I'd guess Canon wanted a piece of the pie to continue assisting Adobe, which sounds sensible to me, especially when you've lost a large portion of your dev staff and suddenly need the help, and at the time, your largest partner / brand is on the line (Canon). That's changed obviously these days with Sony surpassing, but at the time this was true.

Funny how Adobe found their money pot, and then didn't want to let it go, at the same time.

Corporations behave in self interest, not in the interest of those paying those subscriptions.
DPP looked the same. So it isn’t Lightroom.
What computer are you viewing this on? Windows, or Mac? I'm answering multiple questions at once by asking this as iMacs, MacBooks or Studio displays all have high gamut ratings, class leading default colors, no offense to Windows based systems and equivalent, but unless you've gone out of your way to buy a high, and I mean high-end display, and calibrate it? You're absolutely right, they may both look the same.

.

Now I have revisited Adobe lately, they've gotten ALOT, and I mean a lot better since 2018 when the CR3 came out. But they've never recaptured their former glory to this day and hence I'm going to say I'm more impressed with DXO. I still use DPP4 though, it's just a touch better in colors, and it's free, and I don't have to re-learn workflows. That said DXO is a lot faster, and I do mean a lot, and nearly as good as DPP4 that if you're not glued to DPP's workflow, it's a no brainer. But I don't recommend Adobe this side of CR3, I'd say DXO is wiser. It'll also resolve most people's grumps about color with new Canon's, except, the most diehard. Which apparently I'm in good company these days in that department apparently where even with DPP4, I still miss older Canons rendering...
 
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My outcome was selling the R6 and be happy with the original R and the old 6D :)
Lightroom or no? I don’t often hear folks keeping the R, not that I’m disappointed. I actually miss its output at times. My R3 smokes it in performance though. But I’ll grant you the R had good rendering.
Yes Lightroom. I doubt they didn’t fixed the Color profiles for such a long time.
You'd think. However, I'm aware that two things happened on top of each other...

1. Adobe lost a large amount of their development resources to competitive attrition

2. Canon severed their cooperative partnership with Adobe

.

This happened right around when Adobe announced cloud / subscription licensing.

I wasn't briefed as to why, but I'd guess Canon wanted a piece of the pie to continue assisting Adobe, which sounds sensible to me, especially when you've lost a large portion of your dev staff and suddenly need the help, and at the time, your largest partner / brand is on the line (Canon). That's changed obviously these days with Sony surpassing, but at the time this was true.

Funny how Adobe found their money pot, and then didn't want to let it go, at the same time.

Corporations behave in self interest, not in the interest of those paying those subscriptions.
DPP looked the same. So it isn’t Lightroom.
What computer are you viewing this on? Windows, or Mac? I'm answering multiple questions at once by asking this as iMacs, MacBooks or Studio displays all have high gamut ratings, class leading default colors, no offense to Windows based systems and equivalent, but unless you've gone out of your way to buy a high, and I mean high-end display, and calibrate it? You're absolutely right, they may both look the same.

.

Now I have revisited Adobe lately, they've gotten ALOT, and I mean a lot better since 2018 when the CR3 came out. But they've never recaptured their former glory to this day and hence I'm going to say I'm more impressed with DXO. I still use DPP4 though, it's just a touch better in colors, and it's free, and I don't have to re-learn workflows. That said DXO is a lot faster, and I do mean a lot, and nearly as good as DPP4 that if you're not glued to DPP's workflow, it's a no brainer. But I don't recommend Adobe this side of CR3, I'd say DXO is wiser. It'll also resolve most people's grumps about color with new Canon's, except, the most diehard. Which apparently I'm in good company these days in that department apparently where even with DPP4, I still miss older Canons rendering...
dxo PL7 has the old Canon renderings

DPP sucks on NR -- absolutely sucks
 
DPP looked the same. So it isn’t Lightroom.
What computer are you viewing this on? Windows, or Mac? I'm answering multiple questions at once by asking this as iMacs, MacBooks or Studio displays all have high gamut ratings, class leading default colors, no offense to Windows based systems and equivalent, but unless you've gone out of your way to buy a high, and I mean high-end display, and calibrate it?
The only difference between the two systems is that with Windows, you have more choices, and you can pay less for a lesser system. If you pay about the same, you get a high-quality monitor (in a laptop). They are all Samsung; or LG if you are unfortunate (with both systems). High-end Dells come individually calibrated. BTW, I own both Mac and Win devices.
Now I have revisited Adobe lately, they've gotten ALOT, and I mean a lot better since 2018 when the CR3 came out. But they've never recaptured their former glory to this day and hence I'm going to say I'm more impressed with DXO. I still use DPP4 though, it's just a touch better in colors, and it's free, and I don't have to re-learn workflows. That said DXO is a lot faster, and I do mean a lot, and nearly as good as DPP4 that if you're not glued to DPP's workflow, it's a no brainer. But I don't recommend Adobe this side of CR3, I'd say DXO is wiser. It'll also resolve most people's grumps about color with new Canon's, except, the most diehard. Which apparently I'm in good company these days in that department apparently where even with DPP4, I still miss older Canons rendering...
I never get satisfying colors with DXO, and even though LR is not as good as DPP, I find it better than DXO.
 
DPP looked the same. So it isn’t Lightroom.
What computer are you viewing this on? Windows, or Mac? I'm answering multiple questions at once by asking this as iMacs, MacBooks or Studio displays all have high gamut ratings, class leading default colors, no offense to Windows based systems and equivalent, but unless you've gone out of your way to buy a high, and I mean high-end display, and calibrate it?
The only difference between the two systems is that with Windows, you have more choices, and you can pay less for a lesser system. If you pay about the same, you get a high-quality monitor (in a laptop). They are all Samsung; or LG if you are unfortunate (with both systems). High-end Dells come individually calibrated. BTW, I own both Mac and Win devices.
Now I have revisited Adobe lately, they've gotten ALOT, and I mean a lot better since 2018 when the CR3 came out. But they've never recaptured their former glory to this day and hence I'm going to say I'm more impressed with DXO. I still use DPP4 though, it's just a touch better in colors, and it's free, and I don't have to re-learn workflows. That said DXO is a lot faster, and I do mean a lot, and nearly as good as DPP4 that if you're not glued to DPP's workflow, it's a no brainer. But I don't recommend Adobe this side of CR3, I'd say DXO is wiser. It'll also resolve most people's grumps about color with new Canon's, except, the most diehard. Which apparently I'm in good company these days in that department apparently where even with DPP4, I still miss older Canons rendering...
I never get satisfying colors with DXO, and even though LR is not as good as DPP, I find it better than DXO.
Makes me kinda feel good about my old brain that I am able to figure out how to use PL when others on here that are for sure smarter than I am seem to struggle. :)
 
I never get satisfying colors with DXO, and even though LR is not as good as DPP, I find it better than DXO.
Makes me kinda feel good about my old brain that I am able to figure out how to use PL when others on here that are for sure smarter than I am seem to struggle. :)
Move the sliders? :-)
 
I never get satisfying colors with DXO, and even though LR is not as good as DPP, I find it better than DXO.
Makes me kinda feel good about my old brain that I am able to figure out how to use PL when others on here that are for sure smarter than I am seem to struggle. :)
Move the sliders? :-)
Crazy French sliders :)

I can understand why someone could not like that program.

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Hello, my name is Steve and I have GAS.
 
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DPP looked the same. So it isn’t Lightroom.
What computer are you viewing this on? Windows, or Mac? I'm answering multiple questions at once by asking this as iMacs, MacBooks or Studio displays all have high gamut ratings, class leading default colors, no offense to Windows based systems and equivalent, but unless you've gone out of your way to buy a high, and I mean high-end display, and calibrate it?
The only difference between the two systems is that with Windows, you have more choices, and you can pay less for a lesser system. If you pay about the same, you get a high-quality monitor (in a laptop). They are all Samsung; or LG if you are unfortunate (with both systems). High-end Dells come individually calibrated. BTW, I own both Mac and Win devices.
This is true, at the end of the day, Apple themselves is using an LG or Samsung panel. Now that said, usually high end panels. Also, you’re getting highly calibrated software and hardware. You can achieve the same outside of the Apple ecosystem, but you do have to buy higher end panels and calibrate. If you don’t? Yup. My hand calibrated Acer VX0 IPS panel looks really good in MacOS, Ubuntu and Windows. But again, hand calibrated, quality IPS panel. I got it cheap too. But again, you have to go consciously buy it, calibrate and hunt down a deal. You get that by default with a Mac, minus the deal.
Now I have revisited Adobe lately, they've gotten ALOT, and I mean a lot better since 2018 when the CR3 came out. But they've never recaptured their former glory to this day and hence I'm going to say I'm more impressed with DXO. I still use DPP4 though, it's just a touch better in colors, and it's free, and I don't have to re-learn workflows. That said DXO is a lot faster, and I do mean a lot, and nearly as good as DPP4 that if you're not glued to DPP's workflow, it's a no brainer. But I don't recommend Adobe this side of CR3, I'd say DXO is wiser. It'll also resolve most people's grumps about color with new Canon's, except, the most diehard. Which apparently I'm in good company these days in that department apparently where even with DPP4, I still miss older Canons rendering...
I never get satisfying colors with DXO, and even though LR is not as good as DPP, I find it better than DXO.
I’m not thrilled with DXO myself, but I prefer it over LR.
 
DPP looked the same. So it isn’t Lightroom.
What computer are you viewing this on? Windows, or Mac? I'm answering multiple questions at once by asking this as iMacs, MacBooks or Studio displays all have high gamut ratings, class leading default colors, no offense to Windows based systems and equivalent, but unless you've gone out of your way to buy a high, and I mean high-end display, and calibrate it?
The only difference between the two systems is that with Windows, you have more choices, and you can pay less for a lesser system. If you pay about the same, you get a high-quality monitor (in a laptop). They are all Samsung; or LG if you are unfortunate (with both systems). High-end Dells come individually calibrated. BTW, I own both Mac and Win devices.
This is true, at the end of the day, Apple themselves is using an LG or Samsung panel. Now that said, usually high end panels. Also, you’re getting highly calibrated software and hardware. You can achieve the same outside of the Apple ecosystem, but you do have to buy higher end panels and calibrate. If you don’t? Yup. My hand calibrated Acer VX0 IPS panel looks really good in MacOS, Ubuntu and Windows. But again, hand calibrated, quality IPS panel. I got it cheap too. But again, you have to go consciously buy it, calibrate and hunt down a deal. You get that by default with a Mac, minus the deal.
The last three Dell monitors I got (one 17" XPS laptop, and two 27" panels) came calibrated individually, with calibration reports for the large panels, at least. My own calibration did not really make them better but with time colors may shift, so I still use my calibration.

Mac makes color management easy, it seems that it is baked into the system. With Windows, you have to be aware of the peculiarities. With a good viewer though, and LR/PS/DXO/DPP as RAW developers and editing software, there are no problems.
 
DPP looked the same. So it isn’t Lightroom.
What computer are you viewing this on? Windows, or Mac? I'm answering multiple questions at once by asking this as iMacs, MacBooks or Studio displays all have high gamut ratings, class leading default colors, no offense to Windows based systems and equivalent, but unless you've gone out of your way to buy a high, and I mean high-end display, and calibrate it?
The only difference between the two systems is that with Windows, you have more choices, and you can pay less for a lesser system. If you pay about the same, you get a high-quality monitor (in a laptop). They are all Samsung; or LG if you are unfortunate (with both systems). High-end Dells come individually calibrated. BTW, I own both Mac and Win devices.
This is true, at the end of the day, Apple themselves is using an LG or Samsung panel. Now that said, usually high end panels. Also, you’re getting highly calibrated software and hardware. You can achieve the same outside of the Apple ecosystem, but you do have to buy higher end panels and calibrate. If you don’t? Yup. My hand calibrated Acer VX0 IPS panel looks really good in MacOS, Ubuntu and Windows. But again, hand calibrated, quality IPS panel. I got it cheap too. But again, you have to go consciously buy it, calibrate and hunt down a deal. You get that by default with a Mac, minus the deal.
The last three Dell monitors I got (one 17" XPS laptop, and two 27" panels) came calibrated individually, with calibration reports for the large panels, at least. My own calibration did not really make them better but with time colors may shift, so I still use my calibration.

Mac makes color management easy, it seems that it is baked into the system. With Windows, you have to be aware of the peculiarities. With a good viewer though, and LR/PS/DXO/DPP as RAW developers and editing software, there are no problems.
Those Dell monitors are getting fierce, but again you’re buying an XPS laptop. The old adage, you get what you pay for, is still true. Speaking of Dell, equivalent Dell laptops are as expensive as Apple these days.

Also don’t hear what I’m not saying, I won’t be buying another Mac going forward… Just saying you do get color depth and calibration with a Mac.
 
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Those Dell monitors are getting fierce, but again you’re buying an XPS laptop. The old adage, you get what you pay for, is still true. Speaking of Dell, equivalent Dell laptops are as expensive as Apple these days.
Yes, which was my point. I paid north of $3k for mine. Since I have an older MacBook, which I like, it was the choice between the XPS and the 16" M1 MacBook. I do not want to go into details now because this would derail the thread, but I considered the screens equally good, after a lot of time spent in several stores comparing them almost side by side. My choice was based on other factors.
 

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