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Yea...now I am really wondering what the difference between REAL and RAW really is....any thoughts...this is a REALly different concept to me.

Ken
Ulysses said:
Ken Henke said:
Anyone notice color reproduction settings on page 74? Two
modes...standard and REAL...no kidding. Sounds like standard is
in-camera processing and REAL maybe the RAW mode? Sound right to
anyone else?

Ken
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Ulysses
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Anyone know or have read whether Sony's RAW mode will be able to be read in Adobe CS? I suspect it will...but sometimes Sony is so propriety.

Ken
 
We spoke about this one in another thread, but I don't have the link handy.

Adobe will offer an update to their RAW capability. This is expected sometime in January, available for download. The Photoshop CS software supposedly at this time does not include support for the Sony RAW mode.
Ken Henke said:
Anyone know or have read whether Sony's RAW mode will be able to be
read in Adobe CS? I suspect it will...but sometimes Sony is so
propriety.
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Ulysses
 
Though I would probably use 7 bursts occasionally, I could really care less whether the Sony had 4 or 7 burst frames. More importantly, to me, is if it works as the Rebel does in burst mode. Burst mode allows you to take from 1 to 4 shots. You are not locked into taking 4 (or 7 shots in this case) with every shutter press. Also, very important to me, is that fact that I don't have to wait for 15 seconds before I can take any more shots after a burst.
Mike_D said:
...that's enough to be useful. blows away the 300D, which is barely
better than my 707 in that department. Still not sure if I'm
upgrading yet, I'll let some of you early adopters pay for the
priviledge of being beta testers. When I know the water is fine,
I'm probably likely to to take the plunge.

Ciao,
MikeD
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TurboTed

(It's easier just being insane than acting insane)
 
In other words, you want to know: Am I locked into taking seven shots, like some sort of Burst 7 mode, just like Burst 3 forces three shots, but now on steroids?

Or is it smart, like I was wanting to know.
TurboTed said:
Mike_D said:
...that's enough to be useful. blows away the 300D, which is barely
better than my 707 in that department. Still not sure if I'm
upgrading yet, I'll let some of you early adopters pay for the
priviledge of being beta testers. When I know the water is fine,
I'm probably likely to to take the plunge.

Ciao,
MikeD
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TurboTed

(It's easier just being insane than acting insane)
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Ulysses
 
I don't remember them saying that it WOULD do so, only that in their pre-pro this is the way it behaved and that it could change. It makes sense that they're updating their review as they find out more. Perhaps they have a working model in their possession. :-)
Jason said:
I remember reading on imaging resource that the nightshot mode
would be available in all modes, now he has changed his review!
!@#@$$#
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Ulysses
 
Just looking more carefully at the manual. It says:

"You can shoot UP TO seven images in succession while pressing the shutter only once." And then it goes on to describe the difference between Shooting and Framing modes during a burst operation.

Sounds to me like you're not locked into shooting seven images, but that you can control it. We'll have to wait and see.

It still remains unanswered as to how "smart" the buffering system is, however. On the Rebel, you can recover buffer space --- and therefore more continuous shots --- fairly quickly.
TurboTed said:
Though I would probably use 7 bursts occasionally, I could really
care less whether the Sony had 4 or 7 burst frames. More
importantly, to me, is if it works as the Rebel does in burst mode.
Burst mode allows you to take from 1 to 4 shots. You are not
locked into taking 4 (or 7 shots in this case) with every shutter
press. Also, very important to me, is that fact that I don't have
to wait for 15 seconds before I can take any more shots after a
burst.
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Ulysses
 
Ulysses said:
I don't remember them saying that it WOULD do so, only that in
their pre-pro this is the way it behaved and that it could change.
It makes sense that they're updating their review as they find out
more. Perhaps they have a working model in their possession. :-)
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Here we go again!! Problem number one. CNM syndrome.

Dennis
 
I just bought CS last week - it doesn't have Sony RAW in it. Quite a few others...I'll have to break out my work laptop to check on the list. (It's probably online somewhere too).

PS 7 to CS (v8) is almost identical...you really need to get under the hood to make the $180+ upgrade investment worth it...so far, (since it doesn't have Sony RAW) it wasn't worth it....
Ulysses said:
Adobe will offer an update to their RAW capability. This is
expected sometime in January, available for download. The Photoshop
CS software supposedly at this time does not include support for
the Sony RAW mode.
Ken Henke said:
Anyone know or have read whether Sony's RAW mode will be able to be
read in Adobe CS? I suspect it will...but sometimes Sony is so
propriety.
Click to expand...
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Ulysses
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From what I was seeing at first glance it looks like burst mode is limited to 1 megapixel only.

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3D Stereo photography, because the world isn't flat.

Sony S75, Olympus TCon-17, Hoya R72 & RM90, Hoya ND2, Hoya +1+2+4, Tiffen UV, Quantaray Polarizer.
 
it will be adding support for "new" cameras in an update, whatever that means. K.
Photo Newbe said:
PS 7 to CS (v8) is almost identical...you really need to get under
the hood to make the $180+ upgrade investment worth it...so far,
(since it doesn't have Sony RAW) it wasn't worth it....
Ulysses said:
Adobe will offer an update to their RAW capability. This is
expected sometime in January, available for download. The Photoshop
CS software supposedly at this time does not include support for
the Sony RAW mode.
Ken Henke said:
Anyone know or have read whether Sony's RAW mode will be able to be
read in Adobe CS? I suspect it will...but sometimes Sony is so
propriety.
Click to expand...
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Ulysses
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Hofy said:
From what I was seeing at first glance it looks like burst mode is
limited to 1 megapixel only.

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3D Stereo photography, because the world isn't flat.
Sony S75, Olympus TCon-17, Hoya R72 & RM90, Hoya ND2, Hoya +1+2+4,
Tiffen UV, Quantaray Polarizer.
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That is for 16 frames ... I think that for the 7 ... it will work in full 8MP ... just my guess from reading the manual.

The camera would need a buffer that is about 32MB for 7 frames at 8MP ... which seems possible.
 
That's the Multi-Burst mode, which is different from the Speed/Frame Burst modes mentioned on page 75. Those modes ought to be able to allow shooting in any resolution on up to 8MP.
Hofy said:
From what I was seeing at first glance it looks like burst mode is
limited to 1 megapixel only.
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Ulysses
 
Bobby Tan wrote:
Subject: Re: Looks like the d-Rebel's days are numbered!

Huh? You can say that based on the manual? Funny.. my litmus test requires pictures!

Jamie
 
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