Best Sharpening Challenge

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Ok folks once and for all lets see who has the best method for Sharpening. You can use the program of your choice. I just found another excellent combination for PS. that works incedibly well for printing.....

Here is the original patch at original size in Fuji soft sharpen, that I have been using. Copy it and see what you can do.



Now, here is my submission to the challenge



Good Luck and have fun...........

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Jeff .... FinePix S602 ....
 
Processing info:

I post processed in PS 7.0 LAB mode as follows:

Load Image and process at full size....
1- Convert to L*a*b* mode
2- Select Channels palette
3- Select the a* channel then select Filters/Blur/Gaussian Blur set to R- 3.0
4- Select the b* channel then select Filters/Blur/Gaussian Blur set to R- 3.0

5- Select the L (Lightness) channel then select Filters/Sharpen/ Unsharpen Mask and set to A- 350 R-1.0 T- 1.0
6- While still in L channel select Filters/Noise/Median set Radius to 1.0
7- Convert back to RGB mode
8- Resize to which you want to print.

I will save all entries for comparison in print and then post the results...

Thanks....
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Timothy Dunnigan wrote:
Original:



LAB Mode Sharpened:



1. Change Mode to LAB
2. Gaussian blur on A & B channels (2.0)
3. Unsharp Mask on L channel (300%, .2, 0)
4. Change Mode to RGB

SharpControl:



Radius 2.00
Intensity 200%
Control 100%
Edge 100%
Iterations 1x
 
Well as you know, there are many ways to skin a cat, but the question remains, why did you want the cat skinned to begin with?

Different subjects and conditions lend themselves more readily to different sharpening workflows. I use many different workflows and on some pics I try 3 or 4 before I like one. This one I used an action I created in PS7 but it seems to have added too much noise in my opinion. I tried a couple other actions I use but I didnt like any of them. To be honest I rarely sharpen pictures of people, in fact I rarely shoot people at all, except family portrait shots and the odd family get together. In those cases the pictures are set up and lit well enough to not require a ton of post. This sample you chose seems to be a TINY crop of a pic (obviously to save space) but still difficult to get sharp enough to print (again IMHO). Anyways, here is the one that seems kinda noisy but I'll submit it anyway.



Take care, Ted
Ok folks once and for all lets see who has the best method for
Sharpening. You can use the program of your choice. I just found
another excellent combination for PS. that works incedibly well for
printing.....

Here is the original patch at original size in Fuji soft sharpen,
that I have been using. Copy it and see what you can do.



Now, here is my submission to the challenge



Good Luck and have fun...........

--
Jeff .... FinePix S602 ....
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Ok folks once and for all lets see who has the best method for
Sharpening. You can use the program of your choice. I just found
another excellent combination for PS. that works incedibly well for
printing.....

Here is the original patch at original size in Fuji soft sharpen,
that I have been using. Copy it and see what you can do.

My go

 
How about a more reasonable starting point. You can't make a racehorse out of a pack mule. If I had a starting point like that one, I'd solve the problem by deleting it.
Ok folks once and for all lets see who has the best method for
Sharpening. You can use the program of your choice. I just found
another excellent combination for PS. that works incedibly well for
printing.....
 
Ok folks once and for all lets see who has the best method for
Sharpening. You can use the program of your choice. I just found
another excellent combination for PS. that works incedibly well for
printing.....

Here is the original patch at original size in Fuji soft sharpen,
that I have been using. Copy it and see what you can do.



Now, here is my submission to the challenge



Good Luck and have fun...........

--
Jeff .... FinePix S602 ....
--Cropped image is too small to do much with, thats my excuse anyway!!

still,here is my attempt.



Mike533

Fuji Finepix S602 Zoom. Vivitar 283, EpsonStylus Photo 895,Epson Perfection 1660 Photo Scanner
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How about a more reasonable starting point. You can't make a
racehorse out of a pack mule. If I had a starting point like that
one, I'd solve the problem by deleting it.
Hehe, you beat me to it. With a starting point that poor, if it absolutely had to be used, I'd at least make it smaller (if it were for web use) to get the best possible result - at 1:1 you are very limited in what you can achieve - resampling gives you a visual boost for on-screen work.

This is my quick and dirty before and after - if I were publishing it, I'd crop it too. As someone else said, there are both more than one ways to skin cats (not that I'd ever condone kitty-skinning) and reasons for doing so and the perception of visual sharpness isn't just about actual sharpness.





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http://www.boo-photos.co.uk - live music photos
http://www.boo-photos.co.uk/lowlight.html - available light live music tutorial
 
Timothy Dunnigan wrote:
Original:



LAB Mode Sharpened:



1. Change Mode to LAB
2. Gaussian blur on A & B channels (2.0)
3. Unsharp Mask on L channel (300%, .2, 0)
4. Change Mode to RGB

SharpControl:



Radius 2.00
Intensity 200%
Control 100%
Edge 100%
Iterations 1x
Hi ,

When radius is higher than 1 SC introduces jaggies , at least when I sharpened resolution charts (soft).

Radius 0.94 can be used with intensities up to 1000, with good resulds (my preference is about 500-800)

Best,
gyorgy
 
Ok folks once and for all lets see who has the best method for
Sharpening. You can use the program of your choice. I just found
another excellent combination for PS. that works incedibly well for
printing.....

Here is the original patch at original size in Fuji soft sharpen,
that I have been using. Copy it and see what you can do.



Now, here is my submission to the challenge

I had to try, here's mine, You mention challenge and I'm in, that's how I learn
Dave


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Jeff .... FinePix S602 ....
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New to digital, loving the learning
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S602Z,TCON-17
 
How about a more reasonable starting point. You can't make a
racehorse out of a pack mule. If I had a starting point like that
one, I'd solve the problem by deleting it.
That's the whole point.... If you can sharpen this, you can sharpen about anything.... That's the challeng in this.
Hehe, you beat me to it. With a starting point that poor, if it
absolutely had to be used, I'd at least make it smaller (if it were
for web use) to get the best possible result - at 1:1 you are very
limited in what you can achieve - resampling gives you a visual
boost for on-screen work.

This is my quick and dirty before and after - if I were publishing
it, I'd crop it too. As someone else said, there are both more
than one ways to skin cats (not that I'd ever condone
kitty-skinning) and reasons for doing so and the perception of
visual sharpness isn't just about actual sharpness.
Well Boo...

This is a small patch from the original 2832x2128 image, untouched, and un-resized. The full image has been printed out to 8x10 (so far) with great success and copies sold. If it looks good here at this size you know the printed copy will be excellent.

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Jeff .... FinePix S602 ....
 
This is a small patch from the original 2832x2128 image, untouched,
and un-resized. The full image has been printed out to 8x10 (so
far) with great success and copies sold. If it looks good here at
this size you know the printed copy will be excellent.
But the point of sharpening is that treatment would be different depending on the required end result. If you'd specified that we had to get the best sharpening for a good 8x10 print from a full 6MP image of which that was a 5% crop, my personal treatment would have been very different and it almost certainly would have looked totally trash on screen.

Had you said, this is the only image I have of this woman and it must go on her web site, I would have adopted the approach I did. All you said was:
once and for all lets see who has the best method for Sharpening.
Copy it and see what you can do.
I did - and it wasn't all about actual sharpening - making an image appear sharp on screen might involve other techniques, exactly the approach I used, but it would have been a very different result if preparing the full frame for printing at 8 x 10. In my expereince, the best printed results come from files that look a bit oversharpened on the screen - on mine at least. If they look right digitally, they look a bit soft when printed.

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Fuji S602Z and 2800Z
http://www.peekaboo.me.uk - general portfolio
http://www.boo-photos.co.uk - live music photos
http://www.boo-photos.co.uk/lowlight.html - available light live music tutorial
 
Sorry Boo
Thought the statement:
I just found another excellent combination for PS. that works incedibly well for printing.....
would have let everyone know it was for printing and the following statement:
This is a small patch from the original 2832x2128 image, untouched,
and un-resized
would let everyone know that it was only a portion of the original image.

Sorry for the confusion all.
far) with great success and copies sold. If it looks good here at
this size you know the printed copy will be excellent.
But the point of sharpening is that treatment would be different
depending on the required end result. If you'd specified that we
had to get the best sharpening for a good 8x10 print from a full
6MP image of which that was a 5% crop, my personal treatment would
have been very different and it almost certainly would have looked
totally trash on screen.

Had you said, this is the only image I have of this woman and it
must go on her web site, I would have adopted the approach I did.
All you said was:
once and for all lets see who has the best method for Sharpening.
Copy it and see what you can do.
I did - and it wasn't all about actual sharpening - making an image
appear sharp on screen might involve other techniques, exactly the
approach I used, but it would have been a very different result if
preparing the full frame for printing at 8 x 10. In my expereince,
the best printed results come from files that look a bit
oversharpened on the screen - on mine at least. If they look right
digitally, they look a bit soft when printed.

--
Fuji S602Z and 2800Z
http://www.peekaboo.me.uk - general portfolio
http://www.boo-photos.co.uk - live music photos
http://www.boo-photos.co.uk/lowlight.html - available light live
music tutorial
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Jeff .... FinePix S602 ....
 
Here goes. Not exactly the best though.

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/8ac43ed7/bc/Fuji+Sharpening+Challenge/003_originalpatch-
Ok folks once and for all lets see who has the best method for
Sharpening. You can use the program of your choice. I just found
another excellent combination for PS. that works incedibly well for
printing.....

Here is the original patch at original size in Fuji soft sharpen,
that I have been using. Copy it and see what you can do.



Now, here is my submission to the challenge



Good Luck and have fun...........

--
Jeff .... FinePix S602 ....
--
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http://photos.yahoo.com/whispersfromspirit
 

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