Samsung has stopped making cameras altogether, official tweet suggests

[noflashplease]

I dont mind the lack of coverage for FF, the flange distance is what kills the NX mount from the onset and it was the main reason I would not buy into it. It was a real shame because I love the way the NX1 handled, I just can't justify a long term commitment to the mount.

And yet with that flange distance they were able to create a series of compact prime lenses that no other APS-C system has come close to emulating. That is the real shame of the discontinuation of the NX mount.

and at a cost of limiting the number of vintage lenses that can be adapted, killing off any chance for speed boosters, and reducing chances for 3rd party support. I'll take having these over a few pancake primes any day.

Unless you only plan to get the M mount lens, basically all other lens mount can be used on the Samsung NX. But no speed booster. For me, the reason for using vintage lens is because of its rendering, so there is no way I am going to put a piece of modern glass in between just to more light. So its a matter of preference. To me, using a mirrorless camera without a few quality pancake prime is a bit pointless. Again, I guess its a matter of preference.

The M-mount is absolutely huge in the world of mirrorless hobbyists. You have a huge infrastructure of past and present Leica lenses, quality Cosina-made lenses, as well as an affluent user base. Looking at the Sony E-mount, there's a new third party adapter that brings autofocus to M-mount lenses.

Sony succeeded and Samsung made some very fundamental mistakes. In any case, it really doesn't matter anymore. At least Sony has a future.

 

[noflashplease]

Funny thing. I'd like an NX Mini. But every time I check, it seems like the prices are going up, not down. Doesn't it seem like NX prices are holding firm, also?

If you like the NX Mini, you might as well consider the Nikon 1/CX-mount. I'm not sure that Nikon's system has a long term future, but it wasn't half bad if you could get past the 1" sensor and a few other quirks.

 

[noflashplease]

I dont mind the lack of coverage for FF, the flange distance is what kills the NX mount from the onset and it was the main reason I would not buy into it. It was a real shame because I love the way the NX1 handled, I just can't justify a long term commitment to the mount.

And yet with that flange distance they were able to create a series of compact prime lenses that no other APS-C system has come close to emulating. That is the real shame of the discontinuation of the NX mount.

Samsung did produce more crop circle primes that Sony did. Some of them might have had better optical properties, for all I know.

However, Samsung made the same mistakes as Sony in some ways, such as never offering longer telephoto lenses. The 300mm F/2.8 was an interesting project but I doubt it will ever see the light of day, unless Samsung was partnering with another company, such as Samyang. Personally, I'd be fascinated by a manual focus 300mm F/2.8, if the pricing was close to older legacy glass.

 

[tecnoworld]

if ihkim's projects becomes real we could use cheap tamrons lenses for canon on nx1. That's my dream.

 

[Arizona Sunset]

Shame. Even today, the NX1 is tempting.

By far the most compelling camera that I've used to date.

An NX1, the S lenses, and the 85 will be relevant if not competitive for many years.

 

[BillZuhl]

Yes, I suppose they'll be selling off old stock for a while. I'm keeping my NX1 and last fall I decided to get a couple of extra 3rd party batteries. The camera is making brilliant photos and likely will do so for a long while.

 

[Kisaha]

Shame. Even today, the NX1 is tempting.

By far the most compelling camera that I've used to date.

An NX1, the S lenses, and the 85 will be relevant if not competitive for many years.

I do agree, and I would like to mention that, depending one's style, the system will be relevant with or without the S lenses. The fish eye, 16, 30, 45, 60macro plus the aforementioned 85, can keep someone happy for a long time, and you can buy the first 5 (with a used 60macro!) with the money of one S. Considering this person being lucky, and get a couple of good cheap zooms (50-200, 12-24), one can have a full set on the cheap. The S are excellent, but it is the only NX buy I can't recomend for people on the budget, or people not gaining any money out of their NXs. 2500€ for both of them aren't much, but aren't cheap for a dead system either.

 

[Arizona Sunset]

True. They are good values as well.

I don't think Samsung leaving the traditional camera business matters for those that like the NX1 beneath the professional space.

For alternatives, it's competitors are on two year release cycles. Nikon, Sony, Olympus, and Fuji crop sensor flagships released this year do not appear to have dethroned the NX1. These cameras will be on *two to four year* release cycles - how long before one of them is truly - end to end - better for an average Joe?

Anyhow, I have been out of the NX1 for a few months, and missed it. Since it's release, I have been shooting an S II almost exclusively, but am going to put it down for a while. I found a deal on the NX1, 16-50 S, 50-150 S, 16, 12-24, grip, and batteries for $2800. That's less than my FF camera costs, for a fully loaded, competitive system. I won't have the low light, but I'll have everything else, and some. I sold a couple of lenses to fund this, and can't wait to run this thing into the ground.

 

[HenrykC]

I love my NX1 as well, and have an NX30 and NX20 as back-up. If something happened to the NX1 in the future (lost or stolen) I would want to get another. The question is, should I get one now in case they disappear- probably unlikely.

With my many lenses ie both S`s + others the only other solution in the future is an NX to Sony E adapter. I think the flange distance difference would allow a 7.5mm thick adapter which is not that much. Probably not enough for electronic hook-up.

I suppose with Samsung taking a very long rest from cameras- this is saving us all a lot of money unless we jump system.

Henry

 

[cookedraw]

I love my NX1 as well, and have an NX30 and NX20 as back-up. If something happened to the NX1 in the future (lost or stolen) I would want to get another. The question is, should I get one now in case they disappear- probably unlikely.

With my many lenses ie both S`s + others the only other solution in the future is an NX to Sony E adapter. I think the flange distance difference would allow a 7.5mm thick adapter which is not that much. Probably not enough for electronic hook-up.

I suppose with Samsung taking a very long rest from cameras- this is saving us all a lot of money unless we jump system.

Henry

 

[wpstl]

Sendeva, are you serious? Adorama lists all NX gear as being on closeout and Amazon has very limited stock of the NX1 (14 bodies, 8 PZ kits, and a single 'S' lens kit). They are not getting new shipments in. The remaining stock is only still for sale because it's been sitting in inventory. Samsung is done.

You only listed 2 online retailers.
Adorama has been haveing that closeout tag on and off.

Turns out Adorama's "Closeout" was an actual closeout. The NX500 is gone. The NX1 stock is limited to the body only and the kit with 16-50 PZ; the kit with 16-50 S is no longer listed. And the remaining NX1s are on sale: body only is $1049 and the PZ kit is $1199. The 2 S lenses have also been reduced.

B&H no longer has the NX500 either; all colors are listed as "Discontinued". They also have the kit with the PZ for $1199 and the 50-150 for $1399 (same as Adorama). The NX1 with 16-50 S is still full price and the 16-50 S lens is still full price.

 

[Arizona Sunset]

When they are gone, do we think the prices on used NX gear will be higher or lower? I think 50% retail value or less...

 

[wpstl]

When they are gone, do we think the prices on used NX gear will be higher or lower? I think 50% retail value or less...

They should drop; a lot. But it's possible some people think they'll become rare so prices will remain high or climb higher. But, the truth is, why should you pay a high price for a lens you won't be able to use on any new camera? It's not like a Nikon/Canon/m42 etc mount where a rare lens still has value because it can be adapted to modern cameras. The NX mount can be adapted to NOTHING. Sure, they'll work perfectly fine on existing NX cameras and those cameras will remain relevant for some time; but there's no value to new camera buyers or users of other brands. I think those looking to sell won't get what they want and those looking to buy should ask for great price. Paying anything more than 50% retail right now is a bad idea.

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"Sometimes I like to throw a grenade and run away."

 

[Gesture]

I agree. I have enough. If I think I need another body or lens in the future, eBay, Amazon, used KEH, B&H will have plenty, I expect.

 

[Arizona Sunset]

I am planning to shoot the NX1 into the ground.

In terms of replacement value - the f2.8 S lenses, the f1.4 85, NX1 28mp sensor, and 4K quality shield it from 1-stop ISO improvements from m43, Sony APS-C. Even if competitors develop cleaner high ISO and 4K (they already have it at ISO 3200 in the R II crop mode), the comparable zooms are a stop+- back for crop mode shooting.

 

[Ari Aikomus]

seems confirmed...
Samsung will neither confirm nor deny it has stopped making cameras following a tweet posted by Samsung India that suggests it may have officially pulled the plug.

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.u...eras-altogether-official-tweet-suggests-71170

Something that I hope Samsung will understand:

SOURCE: https://translate.google.com/transl...ien-yutaka-iwatsuki-news-9030.html&edit-text=

DF: - Sony appears to really push the E and FE mount with a very large range of cases and optics, including the Master G range. What is the future of the mount A?

Yutaka Iwatsuki - We have two reasons to keep the frame A. The first is that the frame A has certain advantages over the E mount and, for now, we can not have all the same functionality between the frame A and E. The second reason is that we also have a large fleet of a and optical many customers that we can not give up. It is a promise to our customers.

Sony confirms keeping A-mount systems

SOURCE: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.focus-numerique.com%2Fcp-16-sony-entretien-yutaka-iwatsuki-news-9030.html&edit-text= DF: - Sony appears to really push the E and FE mount with a very large range of cases and optics...

www.dpreview.com

Ari

 

[cookedraw]

seems confirmed...
Samsung will neither confirm nor deny it has stopped making cameras following a tweet posted by Samsung India that suggests it may have officially pulled the plug.

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.u...eras-altogether-official-tweet-suggests-71170

Something that I hope Samsung will understand:

SOURCE: https://translate.google.com/transl...ien-yutaka-iwatsuki-news-9030.html&edit-text=

DF: - Sony appears to really push the E and FE mount with a very large range of cases and optics, including the Master G range. What is the future of the mount A?

Yutaka Iwatsuki - We have two reasons to keep the frame A. The first is that the frame A has certain advantages over the E mount and, for now, we can not have all the same functionality between the frame A and E. The second reason is that we also have a large fleet of a and optical many customers that we can not give up. It is a promise to our customers.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/57372546

Ari

 

[Martin Setvak]

seems confirmed...
Samsung will neither confirm nor deny it has stopped making cameras following a tweet posted by Samsung India that suggests it may have officially pulled the plug.

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.u...eras-altogether-official-tweet-suggests-71170

Something that I hope Samsung will understand:

SOURCE: https://translate.google.com/transl...ien-yutaka-iwatsuki-news-9030.html&edit-text=

DF: - Sony appears to really push the E and FE mount with a very large range of cases and optics, including the Master G range. What is the future of the mount A?

Yutaka Iwatsuki - We have two reasons to keep the frame A. The first is that the frame A has certain advantages over the E mount and, for now, we can not have all the same functionality between the frame A and E. The second reason is that we also have a large fleet of a and optical many customers that we can not give up. It is a promise to our customers.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/57372546

Ari

 

[Ari Aikomus]

Something that I hope Samsung will understand:

DF: - Sony appears to really push the E and FE mount with a very large range of cases and optics, including the Master G range. What is the future of the mount A?

Yutaka Iwatsuki : ...many customers that we can not give up. It is a promise to our customers.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/57372546

Ari

 

[cookedraw]

seems confirmed...
Samsung will neither confirm nor deny it has stopped making cameras following a tweet posted by Samsung India that suggests it may have officially pulled the plug.

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.u...eras-altogether-official-tweet-suggests-71170

Something that I hope Samsung will understand:

SOURCE: https://translate.google.com/transl...ien-yutaka-iwatsuki-news-9030.html&edit-text=

DF: - Sony appears to really push the E and FE mount with a very large range of cases and optics, including the Master G range. What is the future of the mount A?

Yutaka Iwatsuki - We have two reasons to keep the frame A. The first is that the frame A has certain advantages over the E mount and, for now, we can not have all the same functionality between the frame A and E. The second reason is that we also have a large fleet of a and optical many customers that we can not give up. It is a promise to our customers.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/57372546

Ari