Six months later, how have people adapted to a cloud-based Photoshop?

[Mike_PEAT]

No one really cares. Maybe the pirates because the cant crack the software. I am not sure if they really care either.

According to articles at the time, Photoshop CC was cracked one day after launch:

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[hotdog321]

I use Photoshop CS6 and have added Lightroom to do RAW conversion. Photoshop CS6 does all I need, so don't plan on using the Cloud.

Hey, that's a good idea! Do the two programs integrate alright? Is the RAW in Lightroom give you the same options as the RAW in CS6?

Never used Lightroom, so excuse my ignorance.

 

[Gerry Winterbourne]

Has any one, single piece of software replaced Photoshop for you? For personal use or professional use?

No. A few years ago I tried every free system I could find at that time (including what came with my camera); none of them came near PS for ease or versatility. (I was trying them for a friend; I was perfectly happy with PS for myself). I've never had a reason to want to change.

A year or so back I responded to a request for some DNG raw files to help the makers of PhotoNinja create camera profiles. I decided to look at the trial version (after all, as the profiles were based on my camera they ought to be good); but while it was marginally better than PS in some respects it was too far behind in most things to prompt a change.

Do you use a combination of different software?

As my basic system, no: ACR + PS. I do, though, use some plug-ins with PS. I used to use Photomatix but I now find PS does a better job of HDR blending.

Have you had to, for professional reasons (pay the bills), manage a Linux operating system and a Windows operating system to run your studio?

No.

Which version of Photoshop do you rely on the most?

CC 2014. Not most - entirely. I'm a few months into my second year, at the same price as originally but with more content. It has some new features since CS6 that save me time and effort (don't ask for specifics because I can't remember exactly when each improvement came along). It includes PS Extended, which has some features I always wanted but couldn't justify buying,

It also includes LR, which I personally don't like (the interface is less easy to use than ACR and I'm not interested in a new file organisation, for example).

I have no interest in cloud storage as provided by Adobe (or Apple, come to that).

I remember the furor about Adobe's decision. I don't agree with it.

I neither agree nor disagree. I believe I get better value for money than with the old system but that's personal, and needn't be true for everyone.

I don't work for Adobe.

Nor do I. But Adobe products work for me.

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[Gerry Winterbourne]

I use Photoshop CS6 and have added Lightroom to do RAW conversion. Photoshop CS6 does all I need, so don't plan on using the Cloud.

Hey, that's a good idea! Do the two programs integrate alright? Is the RAW in Lightroom give you the same options as the RAW in CS6?

Never used Lightroom, so excuse my ignorance.

LR is functionally identical to ACR at comparable versions but you can buy later versions of LR so you get the updates to ACR. Whether the initial purchase price of LR plus subsequent updates beats the CC subscription depends on how often you want the updates, I'd guess.

Although LR has the same functions as ACR I find them less easy to operate, as all the tabs and curves boxes are smaller. If you use key-strokes to navigate some of them are different between the two systems.

LR integrates seamlessly with PS.

 

[Richard]

No one really cares. Maybe the pirates because the cant crack the software. I am not sure if they really care either.

According to articles at the time, Photoshop CC was cracked one day after launch:

http://petapixel.com/2013/06/19/adobe-photoshop-cc-has-apparently-been-cracked-one-day-after-launch/

Even if a cracked version exists. I don't want it. The hackers don't care, and they were not going to buy Adobe products anyway. I believe most people who can afford a dslr and laptop can afford reasonably priced software. And most want to support a company that produces good software for a reasonable price. Adobe does not have that, they have a subscription that most people say they don't want. So Adobe is not interested in giving customers what they want, they force a payment model down everyones throat which only makes them mad. So for me. I don't want to give my hard earned dollars to a company like that. Neither do i want to steal and use their software without paying for it. I want Corel to prosper so I don't have to buy a subscription, so I give my money to them. If they go subscription, I will use their software until I cannot use it any more and buy from another source.

To be honest. I have corel draw 12 which included photopaint. Except for raw, that program does almost everything I need. I only have the newer versions because I want to support the company and play with some of the new features which I rarely use.

 

[bford]

"....to save money?"

Yep.

For the third time now, how?

 

[gollywop]

Has any one, single piece of software replaced Photoshop for you? For personal use or professional use?

No. A few years ago I tried every free system I could find at that time (including what came with my camera); none of them came near PS for ease or versatility. (I was trying them for a friend; I was perfectly happy with PS for myself). I've never had a reason to want to change.

A year or so back I responded to a request for some DNG raw files to help the makers of PhotoNinja create camera profiles. I decided to look at the trial version (after all, as the profiles were based on my camera they ought to be good); but while it was marginally better than PS in some respects it was too far behind in most things to prompt a change.

Do you use a combination of different software?

As my basic system, no: ACR + PS. I do, though, use some plug-ins with PS. I used to use Photomatix but I now find PS does a better job of HDR blending.

Have you had to, for professional reasons (pay the bills), manage a Linux operating system and a Windows operating system to run your studio?

No.

Which version of Photoshop do you rely on the most?

CC 2014. Not most - entirely. I'm a few months into my second year, at the same price as originally but with more content. It has some new features since CS6 that save me time and effort (don't ask for specifics because I can't remember exactly when each improvement came along). It includes PS Extended, which has some features I always wanted but couldn't justify buying,

It also includes LR, which I personally don't like (the interface is less easy to use than ACR and I'm not interested in a new file organisation, for example).

I have no interest in cloud storage as provided by Adobe (or Apple, come to that).

I remember the furor about Adobe's decision. I don't agree with it.

I neither agree nor disagree. I believe I get better value for money than with the old system but that's personal, and needn't be true for everyone.

I don't work for Adobe.

Nor do I. But Adobe products work for me.

I was going to reply directly to the OP, but I find that Garry has answered almost to the point of what I would have answered, including the trying of other free converters. My only real difference is that I do indeed use RPP for the occasional image for which I want the very best detail, but its advantages over ACR get less as time goes on and the relative convenience of ACR is huge.

I have also had some troubles with the Adobe Creative Cloud desktop that have taken longer periods of time on the phone to straighten out with Adobe (partial)Techs than is desirable. But that app seems to be getting more stable over time (knock on wood ).

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[tbcass]

Corel PSP is alive and well. It gives 90% of Photoshop capability for 10% of the price. Since most people don't use 50% of what Photoshop can do I highly recommend it.
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[hotdog321]

Thanks! Appreciate the info--I'll probably go that route when my CS6 upgrades no longer support new gear.

 

[GodSpeaks]

I have never used Lightroom. Absolutely hate it.

Why? Hate implies an unreasonable level of emotion that could be affecting your objectivity in determining how useful it is.

Why should it bother you that I intensely dislike lightroom?

I tried it when it first came out. I did not then, and do not now, want to be forced to catalog my images. That should be an option for the user to choose, just as it is in Capture One Pro.

For raw processing, I use Capture One Pro.

Good noise reduction but LR has better highlight recovery, is the first thing I remember from C1, besides the strange and unintuitive interface.

I have never had a problem with highlight recovery. But when was the last time you tried Capture One?

For Photoshop, I use PS6. It does everything I need and no clouds to worry about.

For video I still have Premiere Pro 6, but I also use, and like Sony Vegas Pro.

So basically, I am good and the Adobe cloud has not blocked my sunshine.

For $10 a month for Photoshop and LR, you have to admit it is a good deal. I do agree though that it is hard to get used to paying a monthly or annual fee for software.

First off I do not want recurring paymants of ANY kind. Second I do not use Photoshop very much anyway, which would make a recurring payment an even larger thorn in my side, certainly not worth the cost, for me anyway.

My company bought me Photoshop many years ago, so no cost to me.

 

[sandy b]

Adobe is not forcing you to use the cloud, and your images are still available after you drop your subscription.

 

[wchutt]

1. Has any one, single piece of software replaced Photoshop for you? For personal use or professional use?

No.

1. Do you use a combination of different software?

Yes: in order of time spent per image - LR, PS CC, NIK Suite

1. Have you had to, for professional reasons (pay the bills), manage a Linux operating system and a Windows operating system to run your studio?

No. I have a photo business and I only use OS X

1. Which version of Photoshop do you rely on the most

PS CC. This is the only version of PS I have ever used. I used Elements previously instead.

 

[Richard]

Adobe is not forcing you to use the cloud,

Absolutely they are, you cannot use PS unless you use the cloud, you are forced.

and your images are still available after you drop your subscription.

I am not sure I was told that if you save in a psd file, how are you going to access it without PS? For me Corel imports these files but if the filter used is not in Corel and is multiple layers, it may not display the same in Corel.

Are you saying that Corel has produced a tool that will accurately display your psd file with all the layers, filters and edits that you did in PS? Point me to that. I would say at least Adobe is thinking about customers to a slight degree, not much though considering that most customers don't want the cloud or monthly payments. They should have done both, but they didn't because they are more interested in money than they are with customer service or customer wants/interest.

 

[NetMage]

How does being offline prevent you from accessing your work? How long are you offline?

 

[Osvaldo Cristo]

Hi,

I can't find any discussions online by photographers, six months later, about what software they've
used to replace Photoshop, if they did. CaptureOne? Lightroom? Dxo? Gimp?
I also can't find reactions six months later. Today is also the second day of the Photoshop World 2014 in Las Vegas. Any reactions to Adobe at the show?
I have a few questions.

1. Has any one, single piece of software replaced Photoshop for you? For personal use or professional use?
2. Do you use a combination of different software?
3. Have you had to, for professional reasons (pay the bills), manage a Linux operating system and a Windows operating system to run your studio?
4. Which version of Photoshop do you rely on the most?
   I remember the furor about Adobe's decision. I don't agree with it. I don't work for Adobe.

I just prefer to pay for upgrade when and if I decide for that. No monthly fixed cost.

Incidentally I purchased all upgrades from PS LE -> PS 7 -> PS CS -> PS CS2 -> PS CS3 -> PS CS4 -> PS CS5... I avoid any fixed costs in my life.

All the best,

 

[PerL]

Hi,

I can't find any discussions online by photographers, six months later, about what software they've
used to replace Photoshop, if they did. CaptureOne? Lightroom? Dxo? Gimp?
I also can't find reactions six months later. Today is also the second day of the Photoshop World 2014 in Las Vegas. Any reactions to Adobe at the show?
I have a few questions.

1. Has any one, single piece of software replaced Photoshop for you? For personal use or professional use?
2. Do you use a combination of different software?
3. Have you had to, for professional reasons (pay the bills), manage a Linux operating system and a Windows operating system to run your studio?
4. Which version of Photoshop do you rely on the most?
   I remember the furor about Adobe's decision. I don't agree with it. I don't work for Adobe.

Since I also work professionally with other software in the CC suite I don't want to be at the mercy of a software giant.

If I get the Creative Suite I won't be able to access my work unless I for ever pay their subscription fees. That is something only fools accept. So - no way.

The fees may be low now, but when the share holders demands more money - who knows.

 

[gollywop]

– Signal-to-noise can not be improved post facto

Since it comes up with your signature with each post, you might wish to know that "cannot" is more acceptably a single word in this usage, and one usually italicizes Latin phrases. Thus,

– Signal-to-noise cannot be improved post facto.

Just a bit of pedantry to make your day. ;-)

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gollywop

 

[Mike_PEAT]

Corel PSP is alive and well. It gives 90% of Photoshop capability for 10% of the price. Since most people don't use 50% of what Photoshop can do I highly recommend it.

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[Glen Barrington]

How quickly people forget! It wasn't that long ago, that PhotoPaint was Photoshop's big competition and PSP was, at best, a distant third.

 

[Tom_N]

If I wasn't forced to use a Mac at work, I'd still be working in Corel PhotoPaint, which is superior to Photoshop because it's able to take advantage of the right mouse button for functions that require you to hold down a key in Photoshop due to Apple's crippled mouse!

The Magic Mouse is quite capable of handling right-clicking. Just go into the Mouse panel in System Preferences and enable that option.

As for Macs in general, Mac OS X has supported right-clicking using third-party USB mice without the need for any (extra) mouse drivers since at least Mac OS X 10.2 ("Jaguar"), and probably earlier. One of the first things I did with my iMac G4/800 was to plug in a three-button Logitech USB mouse, and put the one-button Apple mouse back into storage.

That was over 10 years ago, so if Adobe doesn't support right-clicking in recent Macintosh releases of Photoshop (which I find very hard to believe), it's not Apple's fault.