Samsolar
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Than get a A77, I have used them both, they are very similar
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Petition for a Professional OVF camera successor of Sony A99 !
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Why wouldn't you want to use an Emount with adapter. Look how good it looks. Perfectly balanced.
My post is sarcastic, if anyone is wondering.
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dlkeller
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Suspected that the instant I saw it. 
dlkeller
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I'm not about to invest another thousand dollars in a system that shows little promise of being supported into the future. Now, if Sony makes some moves that show a serious commitment to the A mount this does become a viable option.
nandbytes
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Good to know...Only on the Pro kit (Video) and I don't have anything to do with video
sure you just need to peep harder lol. Well its kinda a hard choice between seeing less than you are going to see on a monitor or seeing more than you see on a monitor, isn't it? I'd pick less... I like surprisesYes, very much like shooting swans in midday sun - can you keep details in the feathers and the eyes in the EVF?Depends on the type of wedding
My main point was there are other kinds of wedding you may find EVF more useful. Indian wedding for example are full of colours. Think you'd like it actually, you should attend one
I did that when I first got A57 and realised I had lenses just for the sake of it. So I sold them all at almost no loss (buying used has its perksYeah - but people always complain about what they do have and ignore what they do! When I had the A900 and was a regular on this forum everyone complained that the vapor ware 500 f4 wasn't being released and because of that they were going to jump to CaNikon (I tried explaining that this would be a very expensive lens, Sony would only sell a fraction of the number that the big boys would and they were already mortgage-expensive). When it was finally released those same people were up in arms as the lens was too expensive so they couldn't buy it.really? just the lens? You are probably one of the few lol. People complaining about lack of good sony lenses should come read this. In fact I going to point everyone complaining about the lens to this thread lol.Anyway, I think you're onto a lower arguing your points in here! For what its worth I preferred the A900 in lots of ways but its the lenses that keep me with Sony
I'm not really sure why they thought it would be anything else!
I've said it so often on this forum but the ZA 24-70, 85 f1.4 and 135 f1.8 are (to my way of seeing) better than any other manufacturers own. OK I played with the ZF 135 f2 at the weekend and it might be sharper (maybe?) but I would take my AF version any day of the week
Yep - your 16-35. I'm happy using just one lens nearly all the time - but I panic and buy morePersonally don't have a problem either, but I am a minimalist. I'd be happy with one lens lol. I am just happier with two
). While selling I thought I might as well sell everything and buy FF to future proof myself. Then an A99 showed up really cheap so I went for it lol.Either way I don't think it's much of an argument for professionals still using 35mm film. Most of what I've been able to dig up has mostly been related to pros shooting medium format rather than 35mm. Several of the things I read were about people shooting 35mm for the look initially, but not needing to because in a lot of ways software is able to mimic film stocks more effectively. From a fine art perspective I can still see some usefulness, but I doubt you would find a pro sports shooter using film.
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Good luck and happy shooting!
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Good luck and happy shooting!
JamieTux
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OVFs don't stop you seeing colourssure you just need to peep harder lol. Well its kinda a hard choice between seeing less than you are going to see on a monitor or seeing more than you see on a monitor, isn't it? I'd pick less... I like surprisesYes, very much like shooting swans in midday sun - can you keep details in the feathers and the eyes in the EVF?
My main point was there are other kinds of wedding you may find EVF more useful. Indian wedding for example are full of colours. Think you'd like it actually, you should attend one
EVFs do stop you seeing dynamic range - but yes I am talking (for most people) unusual specifics there Yes buying used has it's perks - but I sometimes do the same with new kit tooI did that when I first got A57 and realised I had lenses just for the sake of it. So I sold them all at almost no loss (buying used has its perksYep - your 16-35. I'm happy using just one lens nearly all the time - but I panic and buy more
I often use it and then sell it on and little to no loss - much cheaper than renting But you know I'm messing about the panic buying of lenses though right? The only ones that I didn't really have a need for for work are the 20mm and 50mm f1.4, but they sure help with testing for Outdoors Photography at times!
K E Hoffman
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Didn't you see the Korean Sony slide about 2014 SAR.Suspected that the instant I saw it.
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Showed A-mounts in 2014.. they are not going anywhere partly because they do not meet the needs of photographers Sony wants to have as customers too.
No more A37s I think there will be A5x vs Rebel A7X vs 70D / 7D and A9X vs 6D/5D
Sony knows some people are not looking for light and easy to carry:
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Don't Panic!.. these are just opinions... go take some pictures..
Yxa
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that's Sony's gizmos
my d800 manages 2k pictures
The technology should be mature before U deploy it
Sony's record on the audio side is impressive
But for the cameras...
winedarksea
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Sorry. Ain't gonna happen. Isn't even desirable. As wonderful as the OVF of the A900 is, good evf is better.
I have an a99, a7, a900, host of nice lenses and have owned several Fuji cameras. I also shot Nikon before Sony, and 7D and 5dM2 on for a couple months while backpacking.
I would absolutely LOVE if Sony did an a950 with an OVF and upgraded sensor with a CFA configured for better color at base ISO.
The really disappointing thing to me on the a99 is the AF. Not the spread (or lack of)--I can get around that. The a900 center AF point is faster and more reliable in good and bad light. It's great to have super sophisticated AF and all, but first I just want one extremely reliable center point. That's the foundation. I realize everyone may not want this, but I find it discouraging that it's worse than the a900. The colors aren't as nice either.
Anyway, OVF for Sony is dead. I wold love the option of paying $300 more for an OVF option, but there's probably not enough demand. Honestly, Sony has been terrible with amount for a couple years, so good luck getting an A950. Until the market offers other superb AF Zeiss lenses with IBIS, and those lovely colors, I'll probably stick with a-mount.
We had a Zombie walk in my city the other day, I took out the 85CZ and a99--all quibbles aside, it produces wonderful images. I am usually always the limiting factor.
Since there are thousands of professional looking images captured using an EVF then it obviously is not essential.
If an OVF is your primary need from a camera then swap systems, there are PLENTY of cameras to choose from.
Are there any with AF Ziess and IBIS?
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JohnBee
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Yes please.
Though I get the feeling Sony recognizes what products impact their professional line-up. ie. while mirrorless systems have been evolving quite nicely, it remains that Sony hasn't delivered any kits intended for the studio. Which tells us that the A99 is still being recognized as the working photographer's flagship body.
That being said, I really hope to hear Sony has an A99 successor in the pipe. So much so in fact, that I'd make provisions to purchase one for my existing kit.
Though I get the feeling Sony recognizes what products impact their professional line-up. ie. while mirrorless systems have been evolving quite nicely, it remains that Sony hasn't delivered any kits intended for the studio. Which tells us that the A99 is still being recognized as the working photographer's flagship body.
That being said, I really hope to hear Sony has an A99 successor in the pipe. So much so in fact, that I'd make provisions to purchase one for my existing kit.
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Ahoy!
I think those that like technology will lap up the SLT system, but for those that prefer to see the real world will still want an OVF system. To that end, with Sony messing around with lens mounts, hot-shoe mounts and removing features such as SSS in some models, it seem to me that thy're doing their level best to take cameras and making them a box of electronics and at the same time having all sorts of issues with incompatibility and IMO, not having any clear agenda as to where they're going or why.
If my A850 was to drop dead tomorrow, I'd love to stay with the mount, but it seems to me that as they want to go more technical rather than practical, then I'd be looking at both the Nikon D600 and D800 models and make a fresh start.
No point changing things for the sake of it when what could've been done wasn't, so has left millions wondering where they should go or otherwise stay, and from my forum and thread reading (not just on DPR), an awful lot of FF A850/A900 owners who have been with the A-Mount since the Minolta Maxxum/Dynax 5D and 7D have had enough and sold up to change to either C or N models because they don't see where sony is going or because they too don't like EVF (that's their choice).
But if the more techno savvy are happy with a box of electronics (just read how many posters there are who've bought an A77 for example 2 days ago are posting 'how do I get this feature to work, or I don't like the the image quality + a variety of other elementary questions) who have likely bought on the basis that model AXX has umteen features, so they 'must buy it' and have no clue how to use it let alone access it, makes me wonder why they're buying the technology without knowing how to actually either make it work or heaven forbid, actually read the darn instructions, and there are those who've posted saying 'I don't understand what that means' so makes me think that novices are buying more advanced technology for their level of competence without having a clue what it is they've bought (or why in a lot of cases).
When things were simpler, sony would just release another model (in the case of the A200 - A580) to get market share, but at the same time these were ideal platforms for novices to cut their teeth on before moving up to the intermediate A700 or FF A850/A900 which were the logical upgrade paths. Now it's as clear as mud, so less about moving up with your level of shooting and maybe certain other feature additions such as a tilt/swivel screen but now it's a case of what electronic functions does it have.
I think those that like technology will lap up the SLT system, but for those that prefer to see the real world will still want an OVF system. To that end, with Sony messing around with lens mounts, hot-shoe mounts and removing features such as SSS in some models, it seem to me that thy're doing their level best to take cameras and making them a box of electronics and at the same time having all sorts of issues with incompatibility and IMO, not having any clear agenda as to where they're going or why.
If my A850 was to drop dead tomorrow, I'd love to stay with the mount, but it seems to me that as they want to go more technical rather than practical, then I'd be looking at both the Nikon D600 and D800 models and make a fresh start.
No point changing things for the sake of it when what could've been done wasn't, so has left millions wondering where they should go or otherwise stay, and from my forum and thread reading (not just on DPR), an awful lot of FF A850/A900 owners who have been with the A-Mount since the Minolta Maxxum/Dynax 5D and 7D have had enough and sold up to change to either C or N models because they don't see where sony is going or because they too don't like EVF (that's their choice).
But if the more techno savvy are happy with a box of electronics (just read how many posters there are who've bought an A77 for example 2 days ago are posting 'how do I get this feature to work, or I don't like the the image quality + a variety of other elementary questions) who have likely bought on the basis that model AXX has umteen features, so they 'must buy it' and have no clue how to use it let alone access it, makes me wonder why they're buying the technology without knowing how to actually either make it work or heaven forbid, actually read the darn instructions, and there are those who've posted saying 'I don't understand what that means' so makes me think that novices are buying more advanced technology for their level of competence without having a clue what it is they've bought (or why in a lot of cases).
When things were simpler, sony would just release another model (in the case of the A200 - A580) to get market share, but at the same time these were ideal platforms for novices to cut their teeth on before moving up to the intermediate A700 or FF A850/A900 which were the logical upgrade paths. Now it's as clear as mud, so less about moving up with your level of shooting and maybe certain other feature additions such as a tilt/swivel screen but now it's a case of what electronic functions does it have.
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If Sony released a really good body (even SLT), and/or expanded their lens line up--70-200F4 please, 35 f2 please, 16-35f4 please, 50 1.8/2 please, I'd much more likely stick around.
CaNikon professionals appear to do just fine without them.
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