Picture of G5

[Todd L]

the pic maybe fake but I believe canon will have this cam out shortly, they saw how many silly S50 buyers there were, and decided lets do a G5 with little change!

 

[darrenb]

Caunt wrote:
Actually, I'm waiting for the G5 to make the price of the G3 come
down to more affordable. Doesn't matter much to me what the G5 is
like.

indeed

 

[Mun Weng]

It definitely is a fake...
'analysis' from earlier user can almost confirm it..

in terms of common sense...

I think canon would at least try to make more improvements other than just add a megapixel to it... they're taking a year to develop it and all they can do is add a megapixel?? no way. and I bet the design will be 'significantly' different.. I'm betting they won't go for just an evolutionary design (s45 to s50)... they'll probably alter the placements of a few things (viewfinder, etc etc)

I'm placing my money on canon releasing the camera (at usual 1 yr delay) and probably having improvements such as 6 megapixel, at least 4x zoom, improved manual focussing, reduced noise, shutterlag..

of course, those are my predictions... but I seriously doubt canon will release another g series with an additional megapixel.

when ppl talk about having a model to replace Pro 90... I believe that could be possible.. but that would be a different class altogether.. g series will stand on its own.

we're over analizing the photo I think. if you look at an earlier
post from the guy that originaly posted( the "I'm the original
poster on tweakers.net) it you can see an extreme close up. it is
just a 4 color seperation print(cmyk) that is made to be mass
produced cheaply.

 

[digidude]

I remember seeing a very similar photo before the G3 came out....It turned out to be a photoshopped shot of the G2. Until I see official word from Canon my vote goes toward this being a fake!

Jim

Desperate for a new piece of technology to criticize? Canon sure
has you guys going, why not just enjoy the camera you have and use
it?!

--
Jim Garavuso

 

[rustedborg]

I remember seeing a very similar photo before the G3 came out....It
turned out to be a photoshopped shot of the G2. Until I see
official word from Canon my vote goes toward this being a fake!

Jim

The S50 looks just like previous S-series cameras ... but with an extra megapixel in the sensor and a black body.

The Olympus E-20 looks exactly like the Olympus E-10, just with an extra megapixel in the sensor.

The Nikon Coolpix 990 looked almost exactly like the Coolpix 950 ... with some VERY minor changes.

Like it or not, it makes perfect sense for a camera manufacturer to release a new model that looks almost identical to the older model.

Look at computers. Most PC manufacturers don't change the exterior of their computers. Why? Because it would cost more and consumers might not buy the remaining older models that are still in stock. If they look valmost the same, more than a few consumers will buy the older, cheaper model even though a newer model is available.

I'll believe this image is a real picture of the G5 until Canon tells me otherwise.

 

[savagemikel]

If this is true I petition for a new trade monika:

'Taking you to the future.... 1MP at a time.'

hahaha how jaded we become. Remember back in the day when it was big news that they cracked the 1mp barrier and we all thought the world might implode in a matter/anti matter catastophry?

Imagine if just 8 months later they had introduced a 2mp camera...hahahahh.. no.. that took a full 10 or 12 months probably.

And today we scoff at this achievment which canon seemes poised to accomplish yet again. None of this even takes into account the teams and teams of engineers which must be working around the clock to come up with ways to paint the cameras black.

It's too much pressure. No wonder the green paint keeps coming off the play setting on the selection wheels. We ask too much.

;-)

-savagemike

 

[GD3771730]

http://www.photim.com/Infos/UneInfo.asp?N=839

Regards.

 

[Esquid]

Hmm, S45 to S50: To quote imaging-resource.com

The S50 is virtually a carbon copy of the S45, the only differences being the sleek black exterior and five-megapixel CCD (vs the four-megapixel one on the S45. Performance is nearly identical.

Put G5 and G3 in the above and , tada... review done. Still betting $25?

The 5MP sensor cost dropped enough to make it drop into the niche that the G series fills. 6 MP is too big, too costly - the camera wouldn't fit the niche.

Esquid

Rgds

 

[canonuser100]

From the website

http://www.tweakers.net/nieuws/27105?&niv=1

If this picture is real it is impressive photoshop work.

If you enlarge the picture of the G5 that Nuvolari posted, and then also enlarge the frontside picture under the G3 review under Introduction, and enlarge this picture and then compare the the 2 pictures you will notice that the G5 logoenprinting is a little bit more to the right than the G3 logo.
I think it´s a little error by the person who made this in Photoshop.
Maybe it´s just me there is rambling but anyway .
Best Regards

Dan

 

[Ron Parr]

http://www.photim.com/Infos/UneInfo.asp?N=839

Regards.

I'm with those who think that this (or something like it) has a good chance of being legit. That said, nothing that appears in Chasseur d'Images should be taken as proof of anything. Their journalistic standards are quite low, IMO. My recollection is that they've posted totally fake information on several occasions.

--
Ron Parr
FAQ: http://www.cs.duke.edu/~parr/photography/faq.html
Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/parr/

 

[giveitatry]

From the website

http://www.tweakers.net/nieuws/27105?&niv=1

Not sure if this is actual or not. If it is, then there may at least be some price pressure on the G3. With what appears to be an incremental upgrade, the G3 may be the way to go if there are no eye-popping upgrades in the next G series camera.

 

[GD3771730]

http://www.photim.com/Infos/UneInfo.asp?N=839

I am so sorry...

 

[Framer]

From the website

http://www.tweakers.net/nieuws/27105?&niv=1

 

[frisby]

a can put my house on the line and say that this is what the G5 will look like speak to all u disbelievers in a few months time

 

[jason taylor]

Ah, the days of innovation........ well it's looking like the G5 in this thread just may be the real deal (raw deal).

The same old poor focus performance, blocking viewfinder/flash/focus assist lamp, poor power switch design, no more than 15sec exposure......

BUT it does have a new paint job and a wooping 1mp CCD increase with potentially more noise...innovation has never been so exciting.

Nice one canon. Lets hope the other venders produce a real prosumer upgrade option.
--
Jay

 

[MarekM]

Do you want to bet?
Rgds

 

[geepondy]

Unless Canon starts making their own prosumer digicam sensors or incorporates the 10D sensor into a G series digicam (as was one of the rumors), then they will have to wait for Sony to produce a higher res sensor. Natually Sony will use these sensors on their own products first, ie F707.

Ah, the days of innovation........ well it's looking like the G5 in
this thread just may be the real deal (raw deal).

The same old poor focus performance, blocking
viewfinder/flash/focus assist lamp, poor power switch design, no
more than 15sec exposure......
BUT it does have a new paint job and a wooping 1mp CCD increase
with potentially more noise...innovation has never been so exciting.

Nice one canon. Lets hope the other venders produce a real prosumer
upgrade option.
--
Jay

 

[Ron Parr]

Unless Canon starts making their own prosumer digicam sensors or
incorporates the 10D sensor into a G series digicam (as was one of
the rumors), then they will have to wait for Sony to produce a
higher res sensor. Natually Sony will use these sensors on their
own products first, ie F707.

Canon has been an innovator for introducing new features that let users better control their cameras. Sony still lags behind in providing advanced controls for power users. Canon also has the best technology for controlling noise.

Sony has innovated in some nice areas such as focus assist and night shot.

Regarding sensors, other manufacturers often use Sony's newest sensors well before Sony does. Cameras based upon the the 5MP 1/1.8 sensor have been out for a while, but Sony's first product based on this sensor is just hitting the shelves in Japan this week. Even the F707 example you gave is incorrect. The Minolta Dimage 7 uses the same sensor. It was announced some 6 months before the F707. In terms of shipments to users, the Dimage 7 preceded the F707 by a little less than this, let's say 2-3 months.

--
Ron Parr
FAQ: http://www.cs.duke.edu/~parr/photography/faq.html
Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/parr/

 

[geepondy]

I did not realize the F707 was not the first 5 meg prosumer digicam. I agree as well about the Canon providing the advanced controls. Wouldn't it be nice to see a camera with the best features of both the F707 and G3? Also I'm surprised a 6 meg or higher sensor has not been released for the prosumer digicam. For the past four or five years, the high end sensors seem to increase by about a meg pixel a year.

Canon has been an innovator for introducing new features that let
users better control their cameras. Sony still lags behind in
providing advanced controls for power users. Canon also has the
best technology for controlling noise.

Sony has innovated in some nice areas such as focus assist and
night shot.

Regarding sensors, other manufacturers often use Sony's newest
sensors well before Sony does. Cameras based upon the the 5MP
1/1.8 sensor have been out for a while, but Sony's first product
based on this sensor is just hitting the shelves in Japan this
week. Even the F707 example you gave is incorrect. The Minolta
Dimage 7 uses the same sensor. It was announced some 6 months
before the F707. In terms of shipments to users, the Dimage 7
preceded the F707 by a little less than this, let's say 2-3 months.

--
Ron Parr
FAQ: http://www.cs.duke.edu/~parr/photography/faq.html
Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/parr/

 

[Ron Parr]

I did not realize the F707 was not the first 5 meg prosumer
digicam. I agree as well about the Canon providing the advanced
controls. Wouldn't it be nice to see a camera with the best
features of both the F707 and G3? Also I'm surprised a 6 meg or
higher sensor has not been released for the prosumer digicam. For
the past four or five years, the high end sensors seem to increase
by about a meg pixel a year.

I think that Sony and Canon are shooting for different market segments. Sony is not a traditional camera manufacturer and is building on their strength in video. They seem to want to make the camera behave like a videocamera.

Canon is building on their strength in film photography equipment and seems to have a clearer idea of what the advanced photographer wants.

There does seem to be some convergence. The V1 adds a lot of advanced features. It will be interesting to see if Canon can add better focusing/night features without running into patent troubles. Interestingly, Canon seems to be offering cameras with fewer or scaled back controls now too. Perhaps this is an effort to target less advanced users who might be intimidated by the options in the advanced models.

Regarding the possibility of a 6MP 1/1.8 sensor, it's hard to say. We saw the 4MP 1/1.8 sensor appear roughly in summer of 01. A little over a year later (early fall 02), so we might see a 6MP 1/1.8 sensor some time in late fall if it takes them about the same time for the next generation. That said, it's not so obvious that we're ready for such a sensor. The current 5MP generation seems pretty noisy and may be pushing the limits of lens technology.

The 2/3 format seems a more likely candidate for an update. There hasn't been an increase in pixel density for this size sensor since early 01. The pixels on this sensor are about the same size as the 3MP class 1/1.8 sensors (G1). If Sony used G2/G3 sized pixels on a 2/3 sensor, you would get roughly 6MP.

--
Ron Parr
FAQ: http://www.cs.duke.edu/~parr/photography/faq.html
Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/parr/