What "pocket" camear to accompany 10D?

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my backup gun should use the same clip/ammo with my main gun.

Have a big pocket and carry a G3. You would not regret it. It has the EOS shooting modes, uses the same CF memory and batteries. It can also use your 550EX or 420EX flash.

If you were shooting weddings, this would be a great advantage, especially if your first and second 10D fails.

happy shooting . .
Benjamin-
Although not compact enough to put it a pocket, but light enough to
walk around a whole week of vacation with. The nice thing is that
it will be compatible with some of your Canon SLR accessories: the
same memory, Speedlites, BP511/512 battery, and a few others.

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I use the Canon S50. It’s small, fits in a pocket, uses compactflash cards, has a 5 megapixel chip, and turns on when you slide the front cover open so you can use it with one hand. Plus, it has 90% of the features found on the G3. It’s the same camera with a different lens.
What pocket sized digital camera suggestions do you suggest looking
at, to accompany my 10D on those days when you just don't feel like
lugging around the weight....

-examples of those which are small, but still give good picture
quality (manual abilities are not a necessity)

-examples of those which are compact, but also have manual
abilities (apperture/shutter priority) and give half decent pictures
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John MacDonald
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If you'd rather have some manual control, then perhaps the S50 or
A70 would be better.
What pocket sized digital camera suggestions do you suggest looking
at, to accompany my 10D on those days when you just don't feel like
lugging around the weight....

-examples of those which are small, but still give good picture
quality (manual abilities are not a necessity)

-examples of those which are compact, but also have manual
abilities (apperture/shutter priority) and give half decent pictures
--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
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Mishkin
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Mishkin
 
What pocket sized digital camera suggestions do you suggest looking
at, to accompany my 10D on those days when you just don't feel like
lugging around the weight....

-examples of those which are small, but still give good picture
quality (manual abilities are not a necessity)

-examples of those which are compact, but also have manual
abilities (apperture/shutter priority) and give half decent pictures
 
I see you weren't satisfied with my first answer, which was meant to imply that a case is probably still warranted for carrying the camera around in a pocket. The lens cover blades feel moderately sturdy, but they can be opened with a finger, and they are indeed thin. I think it'd be OK in a pocket with nothing else, but I don't think you'd want to put your car keys or loose change in there with it. I just feel better about carrying it around in a small tight fitting case like the Tamrac 5688 I mentioned.

Nill
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I don't mean the size, but I see the lens is covered by some thin
blade diaphragm. How durable is this?
 
Yep, the AA's just don't seem to cut it for some reason.
I hated the battery life and the hassle of keeping multiple sets of
4 straight, plus the hassle of trying to figure out how they go in
the camera when trying to change 4 batteries at a time in a hurry.
Never again.
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The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
 
Hi

I suggest you get a coolpix 5000. Coolpix 5000 has a 28 mm on the wide side and you can shoot as close as 2 centimetres. The swivel screen is really helpful in taking macro pictures and pictures of yourself and your friends. It has many functions like taking black and white pictures, raw capability, and it has a nikon flash shoe.
What pocket sized digital camera suggestions do you suggest looking
at, to accompany my 10D on those days when you just don't feel like
lugging around the weight....

-examples of those which are small, but still give good picture
quality (manual abilities are not a necessity)

-examples of those which are compact, but also have manual
abilities (apperture/shutter priority) and give half decent pictures
 
...and it has a good macro, nice manual features, custom WB. It's small, and has great battery life, with 2 AA NiMHs.
What pocket sized digital camera suggestions do you suggest looking
at, to accompany my 10D on those days when you just don't feel like
lugging around the weight....

-examples of those which are small, but still give good picture
quality (manual abilities are not a necessity)

-examples of those which are compact, but also have manual
abilities (apperture/shutter priority) and give half decent pictures
 
...is how I'd best describe it.
What pocket sized digital camera suggestions do you suggest looking
at, to accompany my 10D on those days when you just don't feel like
lugging around the weight....

-examples of those which are small, but still give good picture
quality (manual abilities are not a necessity)

-examples of those which are compact, but also have manual
abilities (apperture/shutter priority) and give half decent pictures
 
...if those are your requirements.
I am looking for a pocket sized digital camera that takes AA NIMH
batteries (if possible) with at least 3X optical zoom, and at least
3 MP (perferably 4+ MP). Manual abilities is not a necessity, but
picture quality, size and 3X optical zoom is a must, Compact Flash
memory usage and also preferably one that takes AA NIMH batteries
if possible. Price is also an issue. I probably do not want to
spend anymore then $400-500.
What pocket sized digital camera suggestions do you suggest looking
at, to accompany my 10D on those days when you just don't feel like
lugging around the weight....

-examples of those which are small, but still give good picture
quality (manual abilities are not a necessity)

-examples of those which are compact, but also have manual
abilities (apperture/shutter priority) and give half decent pictures
 
... that the best "back-up" is the one you'll actually carry with you. For instance, the Glock like of handguns are excellent in the fact that the small back-up size pistols will use the same magazines that the big 'uns use. Even so, there are people that find even the sub compact Glocks either too heavy or too large for practical concealed/back-up carry. They wear them for a short time and then just leave them in the locker/car/at home and go without a back-up. They end up with a tiny .22 or .25 back-up that they never leave home without.

Now, if they end up needing a back-up, which is better? The one sitting in the locker that uses the same magazines as their primary? Or, the tiny .22/.25 that they have in their pocket?

The S400 looks compact enough that I'd take it along more often than I did my G3. I mean, by the time you lug extra batteries and such you end up with a package dang near the size of a DSLR with a small lens. If I'm going to bother with hauling a G3 and accessories I'd just as soon carry a D30/D60/10D with a 50mm or 100mm prime. That's just my $.02 though...
my backup gun should use the same clip/ammo with my main gun.
 
Finally. Somebody who understands why I carry a "wimpy mouse gun" like the .32 Seecamp



I do have my name in to be notified when the .380 version becomes available. I'm not sure how controllable it will be, though.

This was also a bit disconcerting:

"The LWS 380 is designed strictly for self-defense, as were the LWS 25 and LWS 32. Be advised increasing the caliber without increasing the size of the gun (the LWS 32 and LWS 380 at 11.5 ounces) are virtually identical in size and weight reduces the life expectancy of the gun. While current LWS 32 pistols can be shot without limitation using the recommended Silvertip ammo, shooting the LWS 380 is the equivalent of subjecting the gun to a series of proof loads and at some point the LWS 380 has a life span. Certainly the tires used on cars in the Indy or Daytona 500 are not expected to last the same miles as those on the family utility vehicle, nor are the maintenance schedules expected to be the least bit similar. Shooting the LWS 380 is a little like being in a fast racecar. It is not a gun for casual plinking, but rather meant to be shot just enough to acquire a comfort level. It has but one purpose: To provide the most powerful self-defense tool in the smallest possible package. As with the LWS 32, the recommended round is Winchester Silvertip, which is the predominant ammunition that was used in test guns. A shop test gun went 800+ rounds of Silvertips and a few magazines of assorted hollow points without changing recoil springs or having any other maintenance, but we would recommend a fresh recoil spring unit perhaps after two hundred rounds to ensure reliability. It might even be wise to install a fresh spring unit after the shooter has become familiar with the gun and decides to carry it. The pistol should be inspected regularly when it is shot. Do not continue to shoot a pistol that suddenly starts to malfunction sporadically without determining what the problem is. If problems develop, and this is true of any gun, there is a reason for it. The reason could be defective ammo, or it could be a change in the gun itself. Shooting the gun to clear up a developing problem is like trying to fix the transmission or brakes on your car by a lot of stop and go driving. It won't happen, and worse problems are liable to arise."
... that the best "back-up" is the one you'll actually carry with
you. For instance, the Glock like of handguns are excellent in the
fact that the small back-up size pistols will use the same
magazines that the big 'uns use. Even so, there are people that
find even the sub compact Glocks either too heavy or too large for
practical concealed/back-up carry. They wear them for a short time
and then just leave them in the locker/car/at home and go without a
back-up. They end up with a tiny .22 or .25 back-up that they never
leave home without.

Now, if they end up needing a back-up, which is better? The one
sitting in the locker that uses the same magazines as their
primary? Or, the tiny .22/.25 that they have in their pocket?

The S400 looks compact enough that I'd take it along more often
than I did my G3. I mean, by the time you lug extra batteries and
such you end up with a package dang near the size of a DSLR with a
small lens. If I'm going to bother with hauling a G3 and
accessories I'd just as soon carry a D30/D60/10D with a 50mm or
100mm prime. That's just my $.02 though...
--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
 
Finally. Somebody who understands why I carry a "wimpy mouse gun"
like the .32 Seecamp
I have a G27 in the gun safe and a NAA .22mag in my pocket. It may as well be attached to my house keys. ;-)
I do have my name in to be notified when the .380 version becomes
available. I'm not sure how controllable it will be, though.
It should be quite a handful. Ever shot one of the .45/.410 derringers? :-)
This was also a bit disconcerting:

"The LWS 380 is designed strictly for self-defense, as were the LWS
{snip}
Winchester Silvertip, which is the predominant ammunition that was
used in test guns. A shop test gun went 800+ rounds of Silvertips
and a few magazines of assorted hollow points without changing
recoil springs or having any other maintenance, but we would
recommend a fresh recoil spring unit perhaps after two hundred
rounds to ensure reliability. It might even be wise to install a
fresh spring unit after the shooter has become familiar with the
gun and decides to carry it. {snip}
Ok, it takes me 200 rounds to start gaining enough confidence in the reliability of a new carry gun. That means that I might be replacing the recoil spring after my first couple range sessions. Depending on the price of the spring that might not be a big deal. However, if I replace a vital part of a carry gun it would take me another couple hundred rounds to again be my confident in the reliability given the unknown quality of the new part.

If I were to follow their recommendation and replace the spring every 200 rounds I would effectively have a mini .380 range only gun. Some might be able to put a couple hundred through it, replace the spring and throw it in a pocket. I just couldn't do that with confidence. It doesn't sound like the Seecamp .380 will be a carry gun candidate for me. It'd be neat to have one to throw in the safe though. ;-)
 
I agree.

Plus, I didn't get a warm fuzzy about just how long the GUN is supposed to last, either.

People think I'm nuts for shooting "the expensive stuff" in my Glock 33. But I like to shoot the same ammo that I'm gonna carry it with. It only makes sense to me.
Ok, it takes me 200 rounds to start gaining enough confidence in
the reliability of a new carry gun. That means that I might be
replacing the recoil spring after my first couple range sessions.
Depending on the price of the spring that might not be a big deal.
However, if I replace a vital part of a carry gun it would take me
another couple hundred rounds to again be my confident in the
reliability given the unknown quality of the new part.

If I were to follow their recommendation and replace the spring
every 200 rounds I would effectively have a mini .380 range only
gun. Some might be able to put a couple hundred through it, replace
the spring and throw it in a pocket. I just couldn't do that with
confidence. It doesn't sound like the Seecamp .380 will be a carry
gun candidate for me. It'd be neat to have one to throw in the safe
though. ;-)
--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
 
Hi Larry

I found your comparison shots to be of help between S400 and the 10D. I have a 10D, have just heard the comment from my wife, boy I wish I had a small camera for the times when I haven't planned on bringing the big one!

since the resolution on the web can be poor, have you printed many of the S400 shots? In decent lighting conditions, are they fairly comparable? Would you be disappointed of shots with the kids and such with an S400 if you're used to a 10D now? I know all of these are so subjective, but would like to get a brief thought from you or anyone else that's using both.

Thanks for your help!
Sean
 

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