Why the P7700 is a great camera

[Nikonworks]

Simply put, it lets you capture the moments easily.

The following images were shot handheld with my camera held out of my car's sun roof,

on Auto, and of course using the articulated LCD.

NOTE: My car was safely stopped and in park while I took these shots.

Never, Ever shoot from a moving car, especially if you are the driver.

January 1st, on crowded Fith Avenue passing by the Rockefeller Center Christmas tree for a look.

The first image of Atals is actually a 2 shot pano as it would be impossible to get it all in one frame with my P7700. Yes, View NX2, CS4 with Topa noise and Topaz Detail,

The following four images are of the single image I was able to get of St. Patrick's Cathedral, under renovation and not visible due to scaffolding, by sticking my camera out of my sun roof and guessing the composition on my LCD.

The first image is shot on Auto, OOC except NR wtih Topaz Noise, a plug-in for Photoshop.

The second is the same image after the Topaz NR with CA reduction done 'manually' by me in Photoshop CS4.

The third and fourth images are 100% crops of the first and second respectively.

No big deal for Pixel Peepers but may be of interest to those wanting to capture a moment.




Atlas on Fifth Avenue, P7700, Panorama of 2 shots.










St. Patrick's Cathedral under renovation, OOC except as noted above























After manual CA removal in Photoshop CS4




Overall I m very satisfied.

Yes, it costs me time in PP but the ease of handling and shooting the P7700 makes it worthwhile to me, because I can capture the moment.

Thanks for looking.

 

[Shotcents]

Okay, I'm a fan of my P7700, but this is not a great demo of its capabilities.

1) You need to shoot raw and underexpose or you'll blow out everything, including the sky which only makes CA worse.

2) Most cams can handle this sort of thing as well and in some cases better since the 28mm wide end is not all that wide. Not sure what MM you used here though.

The P7700's strengths are in it's longer lens at F4, unique for the class. People shots look better at longer focal lengths and the P7700 is VERY sharp at 200mm. I agree that handling is top level and I prefer the layout to every other cam I tried.

I'd hesitate to call this a "great" cam, but it's certainly very good!





Robert

 

[Nikonworks]

Shotcents wrote:

Okay, I'm a fan of my P7700, but this is not a great demo of its capabilities.

1) You need to shoot raw and underexpose or you'll blow out everything, including the sky which only makes CA worse.

2) Most cams can handle this sort of thing as well and in some cases better since the 28mm wide end is not all that wide. Not sure what MM you used here though.

The P7700's strengths are in it's longer lens at F4, unique for the class. People shots look better at longer focal lengths and the P7700 is VERY sharp at 200mm. I agree that handling is top level and I prefer the layout to every other cam I tried.

I'd hesitate to call this a "great" cam, but it's certainly very good!

Robert

I always shoot Raw & Jpeg and your response indicates to me that you have no idea of what 'capturing the moment ' means.

I dare say that I was the only one on Fifth Avenue yesterday that was able to capture a 50 story building from the middle lane of its adjacent street.

The reason there is no sidewalk in the photo is my car's roof prohibited it.

Yes, the P7700 is a great camera.

 

[Ben Herrmann]

I must say that with my copy (always good to include that statment - "my copy"), the CA levels are abnormally high - far more than what I experienced with my P7000 and P7100. And although you can easily remove it with software, the fact that it takes a step back in this regard with comparison to previous models, is troubling.

Additionally - again, with my copy - the AF capabilities are a tad slower than what I've experienced with my P7100.

So when we label a camera as "great," what does that really mean? I know I could say the same for a number of other cameras that I shoot with (based on my experiences) like the G12, XZ-1, LX-5, X-10, and P7100

 

[André BARELIER]

No offence intended, but I don't see how these pictures show the P7700 capability.

I see huge chromatic aberration, and IMO, any good compact camera could give similar results.

I'm not saying the P7700 is not a good camera. I'm sure it is. But, well, please show us some "difficult" pictures.

 

[Shotcents]

Sir, here's a quick snap done on the fly, but full manual. If you have experience this is done instantly and on the fly. This is no where NEAR the results I could achieve with RAW and more careful processing, but you will note that I can hold the details and the sky. It also reduces obvious CA. If you like I can do the same shot with a building against a bright sky.

Rather than get defensive over a poor exposure, work on improving your skills.










Robert

 

[Nikonworks]

Ben Herrmann wrote:

I must say that with my copy (always good to include that statment - "my copy"), the CA levels are abnormally high - far more than what I experienced with my P7000 and P7100. And although you can easily remove it with software, the fact that it takes a step back in this regard with comparison to previous models, is troubling.

Additionally - again, with my copy - the AF capabilities are a tad slower than what I've experienced with my P7100.

So when we label a camera as "great," what does that really mean? I know I could say the same for a number of other cameras that I shoot with (based on my experiences) like the G12, XZ-1, LX-5, X-10, and P7100

 

[Nikonworks]

andrbar wrote:

No offence intended, but I don't see how these pictures show the P7700 capability.

I see huge chromatic aberration, and IMO, any good compact camera could give similar results.

I'm not saying the P7700 is not a good camera. I'm sure it is. But, well, please show us some "difficult" pictures.

 

[Shotcents]

Nikonworks, if you looked at my photo of boats against a bright sky it might occur to you that you blew the exposure.

If you're going to post samples to support the claim that the P7700 camera is "great" this is not the way to do it.



Robert

 

[Shotcents]

It seems the remarks in this thread are from observations of an image on a screen, rather than looking at an image and asking 'Hot the heck did he take that picture?'.

Yes, the P7700 is a great camera.

This has to be a joke.



Learn proper exposure, sir.












Robert

 

[Greynerd]

Nikonworks wrote:

Shotcents wrote:

Okay, I'm a fan of my P7700, but this is not a great demo of its capabilities.

1) You need to shoot raw and underexpose or you'll blow out everything, including the sky which only makes CA worse.

2) Most cams can handle this sort of thing as well and in some cases better since the 28mm wide end is not all that wide. Not sure what MM you used here though.

The P7700's strengths are in it's longer lens at F4, unique for the class. People shots look better at longer focal lengths and the P7700 is VERY sharp at 200mm. I agree that handling is top level and I prefer the layout to every other cam I tried.

I'd hesitate to call this a "great" cam, but it's certainly very good!

Robert

I always shoot Raw & Jpeg and your response indicates to me that you have no idea of what 'capturing the moment ' means.

I dare say that I was the only one on Fifth Avenue yesterday that was able to capture a 50 story building from the middle lane of its adjacent street.

The reason there is no sidewalk in the photo is my car's roof prohibited it.

Yes, the P7700 is a great camera.

You naughty boy Nikonworks, you must not answer back when Professor Shotcents instructs you on how to do it. I rarely use Raw even when it is available so I must be an extremely naughty boy yet I still find I can recover shadow detail. I just like to capture the moment like you and I suspect you wanted to make sure you captured the building and were not too bothered with the sky plus may have been in a hurry. The results look fine and I am glad you are enjoying the camera.

I suspect someone does not understand that people approach the hobby with different needs and priorities and that he may possibly need to exercise a bit more subtlety at putting his point over. He is going to struggle a bit if he finds out a lot of cameras do not have Raw at all but I am sure such cameras will not be worthy of his attention.

 

[walkaround]

Thanks for posting these. I think they are actually good examples of an extreme chromatic aberration test shot: sharp horizontal backlit lines against a white overcast sky. Yes, they show some fringing, so do most wide angle lenses (and you're at 6mm!). The Canon EF 28mm USM lens for example has a good deal of CA, and it costs more than a P7700. But like in these shots, one really needs to zoom in to 100% for it to be very noticable. Lightroom doesn't have a P7700 lens profile yet (come on Adobe!), but it takes a minute to remove this, if needed, as you show.

The P7700 lens is a new design, it's not P7100 redux. And it's Nikon FTW that they retained the same huge zoom range, yet made it a stop brighter at both ends, while still delivering sharp, colorful, contrasty images. Its Raw files look really good to me using Aperture or Lightroom's default P7700 conversion. I get a lot of keepers from it, more so than my Canon 60D for example, and I think that camera tends to blow the highlights much more. But there is no particular problem with the dynamic range of the P7700.

 

[Greynerd]

Shotcents wrote:

Nikonworks, if you looked at my photo of boats against a bright sky it might occur to you that you blew the exposure.

If you're going to post samples to support the claim that the P7700 camera is "great" this is not the way to do it.

Robert

And if this is your way of helping people to improve their skills this is not a great way to do it. I pity anyone who posts images from a P7700 whilst you are around if they are not perfect.

 

[Greynerd]

Shotcents wrote:

It seems the remarks in this thread are from observations of an image on a screen, rather than looking at an image and asking 'Hot the heck did he take that picture?'.

Yes, the P7700 is a great camera.

This has to be a joke.

Learn proper exposure, sir.



Robert

Learn to set the time and date on you camera, sir. These would have been Gaff rigged in 1899.

 

[Shotcents]

Greynerd wrote:

Shotcents wrote:

Nikonworks, if you looked at my photo of boats against a bright sky it might occur to you that you blew the exposure.

If you're going to post samples to support the claim that the P7700 camera is "great" this is not the way to do it.

Robert

And if this is your way of helping people to improve their skills this is not a great way to do it. I pity anyone who posts images from a P7700 whilst you are around if they are not perfect.

To say those images are "not perfect" is like saying King Kong smells a little like a monkey.

If you're going to say "great camera" you should at least back it up with something with some merit.

Sorry for being realistic, but this sort of thing doesn't help anyone or the P7700 for that matter.





Robert

 

[Shotcents]

Greynerd wrote:

Shotcents wrote:

It seems the remarks in this thread are from observations of an image on a screen, rather than looking at an image and asking 'Hot the heck did he take that picture?'.

Yes, the P7700 is a great camera.

This has to be a joke.

Learn proper exposure, sir.



Robert

Learn to set the time and date on you camera, sir. These would have been Gaff rigged in 1899

Why should I set the time and date? Will it improve the ISO range?





Robert

 

[Greynerd]

Shotcents wrote:

Greynerd wrote:

Shotcents wrote:

It seems the remarks in this thread are from observations of an image on a screen, rather than looking at an image and asking 'Hot the heck did he take that picture?'.

Yes, the P7700 is a great camera.

This has to be a joke.

Learn proper exposure, sir.



Robert

Learn to set the time and date on you camera, sir. These would have been Gaff rigged in 1899

Why should I set the time and date? Will it improve the ISO range?

Robert

The theme of the thread is capturing the moment and it is nice to know when the moment was. Also it may baffle future generations and even start major conspiracy theories if they think these boats existed in 1899. Not sure how ISO range has come into this.

 

[Shotcents]

Greynerd wrote:

Shotcents wrote:

Greynerd wrote:

Shotcents wrote:

It seems the remarks in this thread are from observations of an image on a screen, rather than looking at an image and asking 'Hot the heck did he take that picture?'.

Yes, the P7700 is a great camera.

This has to be a joke.

Learn proper exposure, sir.



Robert

Learn to set the time and date on you camera, sir. These would have been Gaff rigged in 1899

Why should I set the time and date? Will it improve the ISO range?

Robert

The theme of the thread is capturing the moment and it is nice to know when the moment was. Also it may baffle future generations and even start major conspiracy theories if they think these boats existed in 1899. Not sure how ISO range has come into this.

Okay, I will set the time and date when I get home!



Robert

 

[mallbuedel]

Shotcents wrote:
Why should I set the time and date? Will it improve the ISO range?

Robert

No, I don't think so, but perhaps the bokeh you are missing? :-D

 

[Ben Herrmann]

Shotcents wrote:



Rather than get defensive over a poor exposure, work on improving your skills.



Robert

Robert - you're beginning to sound just like Nikonworks, that is, quite defensive.

Quite frankly, you don't know a damned thing about my photographic capabilities and how I shoot, so that last comment of yours is way off base. I call 'em as I see them and have provided a wealth of information and samples on various forums over the past 10-11 years with dozens of cameras over the years.

I've always tried to help - but then some folks, as indicated in your reply, just seem to have the very defensive bent that you just accused me of.

As I mentioned, with "my copy" of the P7700, the issues I mentioned are valid. And BTW, that image sample of yours that you posted is too underexposed - actually boring with little contrast. But then I can imagine you will now be incensed about that statement.

I normally wouldn't respond, but that last sentence in your reply comment was so way off base.