I thought the omd was supposed to be smallish?

It is smaller than the E400 series but only just! http://www.camerasize.com

I actually expect one OMD variant to be about 520 size with a built in grip and large battery. This will be the one with PDAF on chip to take FT lenses though ;-)

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Haven't we done this?
  • For full blown system cameras they are already both small - too small in fact, one keeps tripping over buttons. For pocketable, see E-PM1 and assorted Pannys.
  • It is actually a lot thinner and a little shorter than the GH2. So yes, it is smaller.
  • If you want to push the GH2, you are going the wrong way. What you should be saying is "Isn't the GH2 already as small as you can make a serious camera?" Just being helpful here :-)
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Well, remove the grip from the OMD and you have quite a big size difference. At least in depth (and that's all the comparison shot really shows).
 
Haven't we done this?
  • For full blown system cameras they are already both small - too small in fact, one keeps tripping over buttons. For pocketable, see E-PM1 and assorted Pannys.
Not really, the buttons are fine on GH2, I dont trip over them and I dont have tiny hands, quite chuncky actually.
  • It is actually a lot thinner and a little shorter than the GH2. So yes, it is smaller.
hmm, reality is its not smaller.
  • If you want to push the GH2, you are going the wrong way. What you should be saying is "Isn't the GH2 already as small as you can make a serious camera?" Just being helpful here :-)
hmm, was thinking of getting the omd on the basis it was smaller, but it isnt, I am struggling to justify the purchase. As a compact more portable second body with reduced iq I could probably live with it, especially with the 14/20/45 primes. But it seems to be just as large and the reduced iq is the nail in the coffin.
 
Haven't we done this?
  • For full blown system cameras they are already both small - too small in fact, one keeps tripping over buttons. For pocketable, see E-PM1 and assorted Pannys.
Not really, the buttons are fine on GH2, I dont trip over them and I dont have tiny hands, quite chuncky actually.
I find as I reach across to QMenu to activate the focus point I'm quite likely to kit something else (forget what now).
  • It is actually a lot thinner and a little shorter than the GH2. So yes, it is smaller.
hmm, reality is its not smaller.
I do not see how you can look at that diagram and not see that it is smaller. Not much smaller (why would it be), but smaller.
  • If you want to push the GH2, you are going the wrong way. What you should be saying is "Isn't the GH2 already as small as you can make a serious camera?" Just being helpful here :-)
hmm, was thinking of getting the omd on the basis it was smaller, but it isnt, I am struggling to justify the purchase. As a compact more portable second body with reduced iq I could probably live with it, especially with the 14/20/45 primes. But it seems to be just as large and the reduced iq is the nail in the coffin.
"With reduced IQ"! Beam me up Scotty! Clearly the IQ is very close, whether it is better or worse we simply do not have the info to say yet. They're pretty close generally - it would be eccentric to have both.

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Haven't we done this?
  • For full blown system cameras they are already both small - too small in fact, one keeps tripping over buttons. For pocketable, see E-PM1 and assorted Pannys.
Not really, the buttons are fine on GH2, I dont trip over them and I dont have tiny hands, quite chuncky actually.
I find as I reach across to QMenu to activate the focus point I'm quite likely to kit something else (forget what now).
  • It is actually a lot thinner and a little shorter than the GH2. So yes, it is smaller.
hmm, reality is its not smaller.
I do not see how you can look at that diagram and not see that it is smaller. Not much smaller (why would it be), but smaller.
  • If you want to push the GH2, you are going the wrong way. What you should be saying is "Isn't the GH2 already as small as you can make a serious camera?" Just being helpful here :-)
hmm, was thinking of getting the omd on the basis it was smaller, but it isnt, I am struggling to justify the purchase. As a compact more portable second body with reduced iq I could probably live with it, especially with the 14/20/45 primes. But it seems to be just as large and the reduced iq is the nail in the coffin.
"With reduced IQ"! Beam me up Scotty! Clearly the IQ is very close, whether it is better or worse we simply do not have the info to say yet. They're pretty close generally - it would be eccentric to have both.
Why would it be eccentric? The GH2 is clearly the superior hybrid, and I havent seen a single image that is superior to the GH2. The ibis is interesting and the allegedly faster af and buffer. The 12/20/25/45 and new 70mm would all benefit from the ibis and are a compact option to the GH2 is where I was coming from.
 
Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH2 is 2% (3 mm) wider and both of the same height.
Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH2 is 81% (33.9 mm) thicker than Olympus OM-D E-M5.

Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH2 [444 g] weights 11% (44 grams) more than Olympus OM-D E-M5 [400 g] ( inc. batteries and memory card).

If that's not "smaller" I'm not sure how you define "smaller".
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... there are some GH2- and E-M5-samples at fourthirds-user.com; according to them the E-M5 RAWs show at least the same amount of detail but with less noise:
http://fourthirds-user.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10822&page=5

From all the pictures I've seen so far I'd not call the GH2 the superior camera (don't know about video yet) but on the contrary think the E-M5 has the edge (by a small margin). Why do you think that the GH2 is clearly the superior hybrid?

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I held it the other day and it is way too small, read: thin, for my taste, although I have very long, and slender feminine-like hands. I couldn't try the grip, but without it I can't imagine holding it over a longer period of time one-handed, and be "every-ready". A lens with proper weight provided, I let my G1 (same for GH1,GH2, and pretty much any dSLR) dangle steadily just on the tips of my 4 fingers while walking.

While the OM-1 is/was one thin camera too, the MF and film advancing forces you to hold it with both hands (unless I use it with an MD and zone focus, but then I have the added grip of the MD which again makes it very easy to operate it single-handedly).
 
When the OMD was first announced he had an almost identical post. Then he had a meltdown and posted a bunch more nonsensical silliness.

I guess we are in for some more.

btw, I hate how the GH2 lacks IBIS. It means blurry images and shakey video.
 
When the OMD was first announced he had an almost identical post. Then he had a meltdown and posted a bunch more nonsensical silliness.

I guess we are in for some more.

btw, I hate how the GH2 lacks IBIS. It means blurry images and shakey video.
. . . This forum has been unusually civil during the past week.
 

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