Nikon pixel envy is the new name for this forum.

[lol101]

Flame bait & trolling.

 

[oysso]

And still Nikon does not have a 1-5x macro lens.

Nor does Nikon have a hybrid body or a steering wheel – so what. Would you like to touch my D800, when it comes? I pre-ordered mine on 2/28/12 for ASAP delivery around the end of May. I guess a lot of people feel the way I do.

You can have that D800 for yourself.

Anyway, how long do you think it will take Canon to come out with a competitive camera? A couple of years? Meanwhile you can continue to use your low-res gear.

For me the 5D III is far better than D800. So I'm not complaining.

It just seems that Nikon fanboys tries to make themselves believe that D800 is better than the 5D III. But it is NOT.

And I really begin to wonder why there are so much Nikon comments here in the Canon forum. Is it bragging or what?

I try to find some useful info about the 5D III , but ends up reading tons of Nikon trolls ......

 

[jayrandomer]

But the 5D III will be a far better action camera than the D800 will ever be. Hence the 5D III is a better all round camera then the D800.

Still delusional – Canon fanboys, after years of talking only among themselves, can't accept the overall superiority of other brands. It's time for you to take off the Canon blinders. You need to learn to photographically define yourself by your images – not your equipment brand.

The D800 looks much better than the camera I have now (5d2) in many ways (the only two it fails is that it doesn't fit any of my lenses and it's more expensive). As a member of the Nikon (or possibly Sony) engineering team you should be proud of your accomplishments.

Fortunately or unfortunately for me I wasn't planning to upgrade for quite some time (just a hobbyist), so the 5d3 doesn't really do anything to tempt me. In that sense I'm glad it's a low resolution gain because if it were 36+MP I'd feel some pull to buy a camera I don't really need (but would sure like). 21 megapixels are generally wasted on me still, spending any money for 36 would seem criminal.

Of course, you're in the Canon forum sniping at most of the people who were reasonable and generally not overzealous or rude. When I was deciding on which camera to purchase two years ago I mostly heard comments that both the Nikon and Canon cameras were good and that in the right hands could produce equally good images.

I'm not sure what happened to you to make you so angry, but there's no excuse to being mean to strangers on an internet forum. You may think that past behavior by others somehow excuses your behavior now, but that's short-sighted even if you were attacking only the people who directly attacked you.

 

[cpkuntz]

The D800 looks like it will be fantastic, but for people with large investments in Canon glass, the 5D mark III makes more sense (especially if you, like me, are moving up from a 7D or other APS-C sensor camera). For current 5D mark II owners, I'm not sure this upgrade makes sense. For people without either system, it comes down to preference. Both the 5D III and D800 will make fantastic pictures. After all, the skill of the photographer and the beauty of the scene matter far more in photography than the gear. However, for people doing a lot of well-lit studio and landscape work, going with the Nikon system probably makes more sense. For people who do more event and street photography, the 5D III probably makes more sense. For anyone who doesn't need to print murals, I don't see how you need 36 mp. After all, the Nikon flagship D4 has fewer mp than the 5D II and 5D III, let alone the D800.

Why do people argue about this stuff so passionately? These are all amazing tools we're talking about. To most people who have ever lived, this is literally magic. It's like the Louis CK bit about flying. "You're f* ing flying! The ancient Greeks would have thought you were some kind of god. The earliest dreams of mankind are being fulfilled by modern technology and science. And yet you complain about waiting in a line?" Rich man's problems, as they say.

 

[Le Kilt]

And still Nikon does not have a 1-5x macro lens.

Nor does Nikon have a hybrid body or a steering wheel – so what. Would you like to touch my D800, when it comes? I pre-ordered mine on 2/28/12 for ASAP delivery around the end of May. I guess a lot of people feel the way I do.

You can have that D800 for yourself.

Anyway, how long do you think it will take Canon to come out with a competitive camera? A couple of years? Meanwhile you can continue to use your low-res gear.

For me the 5D III is far better than D800. So I'm not complaining.

It just seems that Nikon fanboys tries to make themselves believe that D800 is better than the 5D III. But it is NOT.

And I really begin to wonder why there are so much Nikon comments here in the Canon forum. Is it bragging or what?

I try to find some useful info about the 5D III , but ends up reading tons of Nikon trolls ......

It's just Canon envy from a Nikon Fanboy, don't worry !

 

[DanCart]

Well done ! Brilliant summary.....

In the end they are both amazing cameras and this whole "mine is better than yours" is just ridiculous. If you have problems getting great shots with either of those cameras, you should probably start a new hobby.

Many in this forum already have a hobby. It's just that it's not photography. It's equipment top trumps.

It was always the case and Canon, Nikon etc., knew this perfectly well and were very happy to make equipment for a sector of the market even though that sector hardly ever put a film through their products, other than to photograph test charts.

But this situation has escalated with digital. Computer geeks meet photographic anoraks! A scary combination.

But no matter - they all buy equipment and that helps keep the manufacturers and everyone else in the chain in business. And it probably means we all get better and cheaper equipment as a result.

It does create childish and boring forums though.

 

[Dan DeLion]

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Canon partisans have spent years incestuously telling each other how superior their cameras and lenses are to all others. Now when their little camera world is collapsing on them, they lash-out at anyone who tells them the truth.

Canon makes good equipment – but, it's nothing special.
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[oysso]

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Canon partisans have spent years incestuously telling each other how superior their cameras and lenses are to all others. Now when their little camera world is collapsing on them, they lash-out at anyone who tells them the truth.

Canon makes good equipment – but, it's nothing special.
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Your trolling have to end soon.

I will report you if you don't end this type of writing in the Canon forum.

 

[aftab]

At least for a while.

5d3 is as good as a D800.

Hmm. Seems like you really don't believe that statement if you have to make it a thousand times.

Then there's the real stretch, the 5d3 is better than the D800!

Y'all sound like the guys in the m4/3 forum who think m4/3 cameras have as good of IQ as a 5d2.

So funny!

BC

Well, not funny anymore.

Canon came up with 5D3, everything about it seemed to be an improvement over its predecessor except the price and pixel count. Lots of people were not happy. Canon made the situation worse by posting some 'soft' images. These people even didn't believe the test samples posted in some review sites. 5D3 is not capable of taking any good picture! It is as noisy as 5D2. Its has issues with red color. The banding band is still playing loud. Then came some early users. They seemed to be hugely impressed with 5D3's IQ as well as its user friendliness. No one now talks about its sharpness or messing up with red color.

Looks like its a different story for D800. Nikon posted some meticulously captured and processed image (the famous eyebrows). And it was 36MP and 500/- cheaper. Almost everybody, who ordered and bought D800, thought a 36MP camera will automatically give them similar results. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to be the case. People are having issues with getting a sharp focus or with the speed and accuracy of focus. People are having issues with the lenses. Not a single portrait, including IR and dpreview samples, looks out of ordinary. As a matter of fact most of them look visibly soft unless viewed in web sizes (look at the eyebrows, eyelashes or the mustaches). Not just Nikon's own technical guide, even dpreview warned about getting the focus right and it seems that it is not an easy thing to do. I saw couple of posters in Nikon forum bragging about D800. They posted some pictures. Unfortunately, they couldn't come up with a single sharp image. What are you going to do with those extra pixels and DR now? I am pretty sure if properly done and at base ISO, D800 will have the best IQ among all DSLRs. It is just that 'properly done' seems very difficult to achieve.

So, the envy might shift the direction in not too distant future, if it hasn't already.

 

[tocar]

I noticed that the negativity of the 5DIII has died down and the praising of the D800 has waned. I guess the proof is in the pictures!

 

[bradleyg5]

100% crop D800 high ISO, those extra pixels sure are holding in the detail! Very envious

 

[Dan DeLion]

I see that you don't like having to admit that Canon is just an average, good camera. Whether you, or your Canon fanboy friends, like to admit it or not. – There are at least half a dozen other brands that turn out equally as good results.

What about hi-res bodies? I'm a pro who uses both Nikon and Hassy cameras. When Calumet delivers my D800, I expect the new body will replace much of the work my Hassy now does. Depending on my results with the D800 I may get a D800e for studio setups.

So, pull in your horns and stop mindlessly repeating Canon propaganda. Instead , go out there and take some great pics with your good equipment.

Dan

 

[oysso]

I see that you don't like having to admit that Canon is just an average, good camera. Whether you, or your Canon fanboy friends, like to admit it or not. – There are at least half a dozen other brands that turn out equally as good results.

What about hi-res bodies? I'm a pro who uses both Nikon and Hassy cameras. When Calumet delivers my D800, I expect the new body will replace much of the work my Hassy now does. Depending on my results with the D800 I may get a D800e for studio setups.

So, pull in your horns and stop mindlessly repeating Canon propaganda. Instead , go out there and take some great pics with your good equipment.

Dan

I am not saying that other brands are worse than canon . I say that Canon 5D III is the best camera for me.

You can get excellent results from all major brands of DSLRs of today......

The way you are talking here seems to be very unprofessionally done. Remember that you are in a Canon forum.

I'm not doing mindless propaganda. I'm talking about canon and my view. But you are saying what others ought to think..... That is mindless.

 

[David Hull]

"I'm a pro who uses both Nikon and Hassy cameras."

So why are you trolling over here then? Are you a professional troll?
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[David Hull]

I noticed that the negativity of the 5DIII has died down and the praising of the D800 has waned. I guess the proof is in the pictures!

Were you here when the 5DII and 7D were launched? The same story.

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[David Hull]

Maybe silly, but if Vivaldi had electric guitars.. look out!

If Vivaldi had electric guitars, we would have 50 guitar concertos that all sound the same ;-)

What they are saying is like obsessing that if only Matisse and Picasso had had finer gauge brushes, they could have made REALLY powerful and beautiful images.

Pretty silly.

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[Dan DeLion]

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Over the years I've grown tired of listening to mindless Canon touting. The D800 should finally put that to rest. Why don't you guys go out and use your equipment, instead of sitting around in incestuous forums telling each other how great your equipment is and how intelligent you were to buy it?
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[oysso]

100% crop D800 high ISO, those extra pixels sure are holding in the detail! Very envious

have to compare with 5D III to really know how much detail there is ....

 

[Dan DeLion]

Not bad for ISO 25,000 and a 100% view, given that it's taken with a hi-res camera. You really should think D4 with a usable ISO of 100,000.

Dissembling won't make your Canon any better.

 

[Dan DeLion]

You might feel differently if you had listened to Canon fanboys for almost 10 years. The greatest accomplishment of the D800 is to shut them up.

If you're only printing to 13x19, 16MP are fine, no need for more resolution.