GRD IV official

That would make this camera really something special.
It already is special. And a lot of people like the way it renders images on the small sensor.

Designing lenses for a digital sensor is different than for film. Have you seen the size of the NEX lenses? Even the single focal length Zeiss 24mm (35mm equiv) lens is huge.
 
It looks like Ricoh will be have a GRD4 promotional event in Tokyo on Sept 23rd and in Osaka on Oct. 1st.

It seems that they will be lending cameras (for one hour) to participants with a photo ID, which they could take outside to test out!

They will have some lectures and participants with get a voucher, that will get them a free mini-mag light flashlight with "Ricoh GR" printed on the side (weird I think?), provided they purchase a GRD4 within 2 weeks of launch.

Also they say that the white camera edition is limited to 10,000 pieces.

It sounds like fun, if I could speak Japanese and was in Japan at the time I would go!

Check it out:
http://www.ricoh.co.jp/dc/event/grd4.html
 
The S100 is interesting, but it's hardly a competitor. People who buy the GRD know exactly what they're after - a very fast and smooth to operate camera with a fixed 28 mm lens. The GRD is by far the best 28 mm small sensor camera available. If you want zoom, there's obviously better options. But even if Canon's new S100 magically manages to improve as much on high ISO noise as Canon claims it does, that will not necessarily carry through to vastly improved DR, nor will it mean that Canon's 24-120 mm lens will manage to be sharper at 28 mm than the legendary lens of the GRD. So while the S100 might be a great option for anyone looking for an enthusiast compact with a zoom, it's not necessarily a better camera than the GRD. Nor is it likely to steal sales from it, as the people who want the GRD know exactly why they're getting that camera and NOT a S100, XZ-1 or anything else.

Tom
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Designing lenses for a digital sensor is different than for film. Have you seen the size of the NEX lenses? Even the single focal length Zeiss 24mm (35mm equiv) lens is huge.
Or look at the X100, while the camera could probably have been designed to be slightly smaller (although not as small as the GRD), the lens still adds quite a lot of bulk.

I love how the GRD renders images, by the way.

Tom
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It already is special.
Only to the well initiated. For a first time buyer it's a big risk.
Designing lenses for a digital sensor is different than for film.
I'm sure it is, but I don't know how so, do you? Are you talking about the fact that digital sensors don't like light coming in at oblique angles?
 
It already is special.
Only to the well initiated. For a first time buyer it's a big risk.
Absolutely true. I was a first time buyer once, and I was very anxious because of the price to size. Best camera purchase I ever made. Still, it is not for everyone.
Designing lenses for a digital sensor is different than for film.
I'm sure it is, but I don't know how so, do you? Are you talking about the fact that digital sensors don't like light coming in at oblique angles?
I am no expert here, but I do know that it is a big challenge. Perhaps someone with the technical know-how can chime in.
 
Popflash has posted the price at $599 for the black body and $649 for the white body, shipping in mid-October.

This means that Ricoh has dropped the retail price of the GRD series by $100!
 
Popflash has posted the price at $599 for the black body and $649 for the white body, shipping in mid-October.
In fairness, dpreview reported that 13 hours ago, when we published our preview.

Richard - dpreview.com
Sorry..somehow I missed that??? That's what happens when you mix middle-aged bad eyesight with the tiny screen on the iPhone!
 
The film GR1 was Full Frame! The lens was not much bigger, if at all! Ok, maybe FF is stretching it, but we have seen with Sony that APS-C sensors can be stuck in small, thin bodies, so why not with the GRD?? That would make this camera really something special.
The GR1 had an interchangeable sensor too.
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Why do you guys want to destroy grd?
Do you want a larger sensor camera with perfect ui and ergonomics, get a gxr...
Leave grd alone please...

There isn't much empty space inside a grd...this is the largest sensor that can go in such a small body. The minute you stick a bigger sensor in there, it starts getting bulkier.

If you used to like gr1, I would assume it was because of the size and interface coupled with a sharp lens.
Ok, bad news: The digital equivalent of that is "small sensor" GRD.
The new X10 from Fuji with 2/3" is a bigger camera, for example...

But even that size of sensor is not good for you guys...if there is a scientific breakthrough and all point and shoots are fitted with the annoyingly so called "full frame", the dpreview forums will be full of posts asking medium format sensors..

I don't even like the rendering of apsc sensors ( include. Gxr apsc) they don't have the personality...

What's missing in grd is sensor technology...not sensor size. ( I hope I'm wrong, but I think all we will get is better image engine, probably someone with good pp skills can match the output with a grd3 file)
The film GR1 was Full Frame! The lens was not much bigger, if at all! Ok, maybe FF is stretching it, but we have seen with Sony that APS-C sensors can be stuck in small, thin bodies, so why not with the GRD?? That would make this camera really something special.
 
converters make it bulkier, you are right. But it is that strange thing about grd. That it fits your hand like a glove. I still think it will be fine with a bigger lens in front.
Spray paint requires little r&d and engineering...
True but just look how long it can take to choose which one of the 16.7m colours available to use.

And of course you have to figure out how to apply it to DPR's plastic body so as not to have a chemical reaction. (The word "PLASTIC" seems to have been edited out of the review since I first read it).
Ricoh, where is my 40 mm converter redesigned to work with grd3/4?
As I mentioned earlier I am not convinced about converters or interchangeable lenses either for that matter. Not saying that the converter degrades the image or anything like that and interchangeable lenses do do the job but its the weight they put on your mind and the possible loss of the photographic opportunity while you decide what to do, and then of course you have to carry them around.

With a built in short range zoom you don't have that problem, these days I think most zooms are adequately designed so the major problem is the loss of the fast aperture.

A pair of GRD's with 28mm and 40mm lenses is still relatively light weight and would cover most opportunities with the benefit of specifically designed fixed focal length fast lenses.

These days I find I am leaving the DSLR and lenses at home more and more and settling for the CX1 and EX1 combination.

Maybe I'm not picky enough but I don't worry anymore about sensor size or noise etc.

Wandering off the topic but there you are.

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B&H has them up for pre-order now.

I knew I would not resist : as I've subscribed to all the previous GRD cameras.
 
You are correct...but at this point it is specs vs specs. And I cannot emphasize enough how much I would like to be wrong about ricoh's grd 4.

It just that it is a 2-1/2 year old sensor vs brand new one...long time in digital photography, I would say...
As of pixel density, think this is another photo forum myth...

(actually some intelligent discussion about that, recently...would share if I can find)
Amazing, looking for the spec sheet improvement, photos unseen, especially with a drop in pixel density.
New CMOS 12MP sensor and all...
http://forums.dpreview.com/news/1109/11091540canons100preview.asp
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Panasonic LX3, Ricoh GXR w/ A12 28&50mm user
 
the annoyingly so called "full frame", the dpreview forums will be full of posts asking medium format sensors..

I am so glad I am not alone in finding this harping on "full frame" be annoying. This is the the tiny 24x36mm that used to be called "miniature" format when most "serious" photographers used at least 6x6cm. That was slightly barmy then as the opposite is now!
The film GR1 was Full Frame!
Or miniature format depending on your point of view ;)

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