D7000 - I was thinking of getting one.. "was" being the operative word.

[CaseyKittyKat]

I suppose THIS is just another thing to be ignored, there's no problems with this camera because greystar and klasu say so!

"I got it back today. The service ticket said "Clean Sensor, General Check and Clean, Adjust AF operation". I took it out of the box, set my 35mm prime to F22, pointed it at the sky, and the resulting picture had dust and an oil spot.

I wet cleaned the sensor, repeated the test, and the shot looked clean. I took about 50 pictures around the house and then took an F22 flash shot at a white wall. A new oil spot appeared. Sigh...

My guess is they totally ignored my letter that asked them to clean the excess oil from the mirror box. I even called them 3 times while the camera was in the shop and instructed them to clean the excess oil out of the mirror box. It obviously fell on deaf ears. I will have to keep wet cleaning my sensor.

I wish I kept my D90."

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=38678387

 

[CaseyKittyKat]

"Sieg Heil? Are you out of your mind?"

-No, just sick and tired of jack-booted morons like yourself dictating what I can discuss..

"So stop talking about issues if you don't have any numbers"
You can talk about this all day long. Did I say anything different?

• Why should I stop talking issues that matter TO ME just because YOU say so? (Sieg Heil!!)

Sieg Heil? Are you out of your mind?

if the numbers don't exist or are hard to find (let's face it, Nikon would not publish these figures!) does that mean no one's allowed to talk about the things that bother them just on YOUR say so? Moron!

Moron? That's your response?

These issues are real, regardless of how many there are - oils spots, focus problems, mirror slap vibration problems, etc.

It doesn't matter if there's only ten in the whole world, if there's no warranty outside australia, what happens if I get the 11th with a problem - why should I pay full price for a camera with no warranty?!

You don't even know how to spell "Australia". And I should take you serious?

(depends what you call a photo pro - I'm not a travel photog or a war photo journalist, but I have spent 8 years doing wedding/portaits/nudes/stock, etc.)

So what it all boils down to is that you are just an angry little tosser without any numbers to backup your claims. You are not a photg (whatever the hell that is)

I was thinking of getting one of these.

A few factors have changed my mind:

1) According to Nikon, the warranty for the camera does not leave the country of purchase (obviously to stop grey import warranty), and I'm going OS soon. To me this is a glaring omission for a camera that would be used by photojournalists and pro/am photographers doing travel work and such.

So: Are you a photo Pro ? Doe this really matter to you?

With all the problems people have had with back-focus and oils spots, I'm not risking it.

How many D7000s in regards to the overall sale numbers of that camera had focus/oil spot problems ? Can you tell what the percentage is?

2) The back-focus problems. This also seems a huge factor for a ONCE reliable camera maker. a good many have it, a good many don't - it seems like too much of a random mixed bag for me (especially coupled with the 'no warranty' thing above!!).

Again: What is the ratio of focus problems with the D7000 compared to overall sales numbers ?

3) The oil spot issue. Again, with no warranty for the camera once I leave Australia, they can kep it!

How many D7000s have an "oil spot issue" 3 out of 10,000? 10 out of 100,000?

You do not know. I don't know either. I have no idea how many D7000 have been sold worldwide. So stop talking about issues if you don't have any numbers to support your statements.

I had a (mini) argument with Nikon reps. There is no global roaming warranty for the body. Lenses are under a global warranty but bodies have to be sent back to country of purchase.

That's not an option I'd take - transport damage, failure to complete a repair properly, time lost with this whole process.. No thanks!

I MIGHT reconsider when I get to England, but I doubt it. I've been soured off of Nikon for the moment.

 

[Holmes375]

"Sieg Heil? Are you out of your mind?"

-No, just sick and tired of jack-booted morons like yourself dictating what I can discuss..

Problem is you're not really discussing anything here with anyone. You've analysed the internet hysteria, reached your own conclusions and posted your distaste for Nikon and the D7000. Then you attack anyone who finds fault with your conclusion while resorting to name calling. And please note the responders to your post actually own and use a D7000 thus their credibility greatly outweighs yours.

I'm just not seeing the discussion aspect here

--
Holmes
http://holmes.zenfolio.com/

 

[Mako2011]

I wanted to help....some you just can't

 

[intruder61]

without reading all the blah between your post and this...what did you get instead?

 

[BPJosh]

--
--Josh
http://www.HaydenImaging.com
On Flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/haydenimaging/

 

[CaseyKittyKat]

That's brilliant!

Hahaha - I do like that piccy.

I wanted to help....some you just can't

 

[CaseyKittyKat]

Am waiting until I arrive in UK, and I'll start researching again there (I had researched and decided the D7000 was the best option until I found the problems with it (or non existing problems, according to some here).

Pity about the warranty thing though - it would've been nice to get duty free.

I really don't see why it matter if i take an Australian bought camera into an English Nikon service centre..

without reading all the blah between your post and this...what did you get instead?

 

[CaseyKittyKat]

Actually, he was the one who stated trying to tell me i couldn't talk about these issues.

I didn't attack anyone for finding fault with my conclusion, I attacked when I was told to shut up talking about things without numbers to back me up (when the numbers most likely don't exist, or are too well hidden).

HE attacked me for a conclusion I arrived at after a lot of reading and looking, a fanboi response, Basically.

Holmes375 wrote:

Then you attack anyone who finds fault with your conclusion while resorting to name calling. And please note the responders to your post actually own and use a D7000 thus their credibility greatly outweighs yours.

 

[Peter v.d Werf]

"So stop talking about issues if you don't have any numbers"

• Why should I stop talking issues that matter TO ME just because YOU say so? (Sieg Heil!!)

Sorry, but the way you end this last line is completely out of line, please stop with this kind of nonsense.

Shouting with capitals...well, if you feel you need to, but stop with the **** salute crap. I think I can speak for many that this kind of talk has no place on a photo gear forum (or anywhere else for that matter....)
Stop taking things so personally here, it's a discussion, not a war........

But back to the phrase you commented on. What the other poster is trying to say, is that you are making all sorts of statements and then backing these statements up by numbers that have no relevance whatsoever.

Sure you can say that every complaint is 1 complaint that matters to you, but if that sort of thinking is enough to stop you from buying a consumer product, then you might as well stop buying things completely. About every single gadget I have I can find a few users that have problems with it.

My idea: learn to read through all the ranting and issues. Sure there are users with a camera with issues (My first D7000 has hot pixels before the firmware fix was out). Sure I was annoyed, but now I'm extremely happy with my D7000.

I also don't have the numbers, but there are a shitload D7000 without any issues being sold, but just few of the happy users feel the need to post positive posts.

Remember that people somehow do feel the need to post when they find anything negative.

if the numbers don't exist or are hard to find (let's face it, Nikon would not publish these figures!) does that mean no one's allowed to talk about the things that bother them just on YOUR say so? Moron!

I had also tried to find these numbers...no luck here either. And again... "Moron"?? Get over it. He is not swearing at you now is he??

These issues are real, regardless of how many there are - oils spots, focus problems, mirror slap vibration problems, etc.

Yes, the issues are real and very annoying if you have any. But keeps things in perspective. Check this forum or google, about every new camera released has it's rants.

It doesn't matter if there's only ten in the whole world, if there's no warranty outside australia, what happens if I get the 11th with a problem

I can't argue with this kind of arguing..

• why should I pay full price for a camera with no warranty?!

I wouldn't. Just get a camera that does offer the kind of warranty you need. The D7000 is just a camera.

But this is nothing new, most products have this kind of warranty, but I agree, there lot's of room for updating that policy.

I would or get the camera well before you leave so you have enough time to test. Should you be unlucky enough to get a camera with a fault, then you would see it soon enough. Chances that a camera fails during use are much slimmer.

Or get the camera in the country you are going to live (or are you going to travel).

 

[pic_noob]

It seems here you cant comment the slightest issue regarding the D7000 here. You will get shot down unless you admit you are the problem. It's impossible that the product has manufacturing fault. Either that or its definitely some faults so the buyer should live with it.

The issue could be 100 in 100000000, or 100 in 10000. But even just saying this, you get shot at.

I would definitely have thought that besides sharing knowledge of good photography, it is logical of people to come to the forum to get some support. I am sure you have read the recent hot topics

 

[MajorNikon]

Clue #1:
OP joins DPR just in the last few days

Clue #2:

OP claims "spent 8 years doing wedding/portaits/nudes/stock, etc.", but makes no mention of camera or lenses presently or previously owned.

Clue #3:
Starts post with, 'I was thinking of buying Nikon, but...'

Clue #4:

Points to anecdotal accounts of problems with Nikon equipment and suggests such problems are systematic.

Clue #5:

Identifies "problem" with Nikon warranty, even though all major photography equipment manufacturers have the same or similar policies.

 

[emem]

.. and accept this bulldust about warranties not applying outside of the country of purchase. COME ON PEOPLE - wake up to yourselves.

It seems we're living in a global economy when it suits the big boys but hey, little individuals can't cite a global economy to get things like international warranties working. I gather from reading these forums that Nikon (in its various iterations in various countries ) is particularly active in inconveniencing their customers in the name of stamping out "grey imports". What utter claptrap. DON"T ACCEPT THIS NONSENSE.

If a camera - or any other piece of electronic equipment, was purchased legally anywhere in the world, it should carry a manufacturers warranty wherever it ends up. Full stop. No argument.

As long as we collectively behave like spineless sheep, we'll be treated as such.

To the OP - take your stand - and make sure you let Nikon in Australia AND Japan what you're doing and why. Good luck with whatever you decide.
--
Mike M. (emem)
http://www.veritasmea.com

 

[CaseyKittyKat]

"Clue #1: OP joins DPR just in the last few days"

I joined recently, yes, But I have been looking in here at the foum posts for ages now. I joined to broach the idea of my initial liking then disillusionment with the D700, only to be attacked for not loving this fanbois dream camera.

"Clue #2: OP claims "spent 8 years doing wedding/portaits/nudes/stock, etc.", but makes no mention of camera or lenses presently or previously owned."

I didn't mention cameras or lenses mainly because I don't consider them consequential - A good photographer can take a decent picture with almost any camera/lens providing the equipment is decent quality (referencing my doubts over the D7000 being decent with bad focus and oil spots!). If it matters, I used Canon Eos, Nikon and Pentax (mainly the first two). Both manual and auto focus, depending on what I was doing and what was available.

"Clue #3: Starts post with, 'I was thinking of buying Nikon, but...'"

I said it because I was thinking of buying the Nikon D7000 - what did you expect me to say? "I was thinking of buying a carrot"??

"Clue #4: Points to anecdotal accounts of problems with Nikon equipment and suggests such problems are systematic."

When you consider that all accounts are 'anecdotal', what else is there. The number of problems noted (focus/oil/mirror bounce, et al) suggests it could be a systematic problem rather than a user problem.

"Clue #5: Identifies "problem" with Nikon warranty, even though all major photography equipment manufacturers have the same or similar policies."

I identify the problem with Nikon warranty simply because I was going to buy Nikon.

The fact that Canon warranty is probably the same does not detract from the issue itself - warranty should be world-wide, OR an option to buy a world-wide one should be available.

I was also adding the comment that, given the number of faults on the D7000 reported over multiple threads here and multiple forums elsewhere, a warranty tied to country of purchase is a very valid reson not to buy it.

Clue #1:
OP joins DPR just in the last few days

Clue #2:

OP claims "spent 8 years doing wedding/portaits/nudes/stock, etc.", but makes no mention of camera or lenses presently or previously owned.

Clue #3:
Starts post with, 'I was thinking of buying Nikon, but...'

Clue #4:

Points to anecdotal accounts of problems with Nikon equipment and suggests such problems are systematic.

Clue #5:

Identifies "problem" with Nikon warranty, even though all major photography equipment manufacturers have the same or similar policies.

 

[CaseyKittyKat]

I did - I spoke to two Nikon reps ion the 'phone about the matter.

I also agree with you about the grey imports thing - if the camera you buy is genuine (as in, not a re-badged fake), what matter is it where you bought it?

Calling therm 'grey imports' is a mis-direction, propaganda, all in order to boost an over priced local market. Same thing with the warranty refusals - buy it local or you don't get warranty..

A global economy should carry global warranty.

.. and accept this bulldust about warranties not applying outside of the country of purchase. COME ON PEOPLE - wake up to yourselves.

It seems we're living in a global economy when it suits the big boys but hey, little individuals can't cite a global economy to get things like international warranties working. I gather from reading these forums that Nikon (in its various iterations in various countries ) is particularly active in inconveniencing their customers in the name of stamping out "grey imports". What utter claptrap. DON"T ACCEPT THIS NONSENSE.

If a camera - or any other piece of electronic equipment, was purchased legally anywhere in the world, it should carry a manufacturers warranty wherever it ends up. Full stop. No argument.

As long as we collectively behave like spineless sheep, we'll be treated as such.

To the OP - take your stand - and make sure you let Nikon in Australia AND Japan what you're doing and why. Good luck with whatever you decide.
--
Mike M. (emem)
http://www.veritasmea.com

 

[pic_noob]

hahaha.... Good one.

"Clue #3: Starts post with, 'I was thinking of buying Nikon, but...'"

I said it because I was thinking of buying the Nikon D7000 - what did you expect me to say? "I was thinking of buying a carrot"??

 

[RayTZ]

This thread should be ignored because you are ranting about a problem you do not have on a camera you have decided not to own.

Thank you for informing us of your choice, or lack there of, in equipment. It means a lot. For the record I am NOT purchasing a Nikon D3 because I don't feel like spending that much money on a camera. Wow, I DO feel better now...

I suppose THIS is just another thing to be ignored, there's no problems with this camera because greystar and klasu say so!

 

[CaseyKittyKat]

I was commenting on the problem of getting a fault with no warranty in the country I'll be moving too.

I'd buy it if I was staying here with a valid warranty.

I lost interests after finding out about their draconian warranty restrictions. And, no, posting it back to Oz is not relevant. I've had parcels from USA sent via Italy (with a 4 month delay!) - post off a $2000 camera and have it sent to some bloke in Russia?? No thanks.

Your comment on the D3 was pointless - a valid comment would be that you're not buying it because of poor auto-focus issues (if it has any).

This thread should be ignored because you are ranting about a problem you do not have on a camera you have decided not to own.

Thank you for informing us of your choice, or lack there of, in equipment. It means a lot. For the record I am NOT purchasing a Nikon D3 because I don't feel like spending that much money on a camera. Wow, I DO feel better now...

I suppose THIS is just another thing to be ignored, there's no problems with this camera because greystar and klasu say so!

 

[RayTZ]

My comment about the D3 WAS pointless. That's what I was aiming for.

You would have had a lot better reception coming here and discussing the warranty issue. Many here, myself included, would agree with you, without bringing up all the other D7000 issues of which you know nothing other than what you have read on forums.

This forum is littered with D7000 opinions from users (some on this thread) who know nothing about the camera. So much so that some people, yourself included, feel the need to deprive themselves of what is actually a superb camera.

You have warranty problems, okay, find a solution that suits you. Be it with Nikon, Canon, Pentax or Sony. But you come online and state your derision as if you single handedly have decided to punish Nikon for not having a warranty that makes sense to you. I sure Nikon will miss your business.

Go ahead. Buy something else. It's your money. Have fun. And by all means, feel free to inform all and sundry of your purchase decision.

I was commenting on the problem of getting a fault with no warranty in the country I'll be moving too.

I'd buy it if I was staying here with a valid warranty.

I lost interests after finding out about their draconian warranty restrictions. And, no, posting it back to Oz is not relevant. I've had parcels from USA sent via Italy (with a 4 month delay!) - post off a $2000 camera and have it sent to some bloke in Russia?? No thanks.

Your comment on the D3 was pointless - a valid comment would be that you're not buying it because of poor auto-focus issues (if it has any).

This thread should be ignored because you are ranting about a problem you do not have on a camera you have decided not to own.

Thank you for informing us of your choice, or lack there of, in equipment. It means a lot. For the record I am NOT purchasing a Nikon D3 because I don't feel like spending that much money on a camera. Wow, I DO feel better now...

I suppose THIS is just another thing to be ignored, there's no problems with this camera because greystar and klasu say so!

 

[ZorSy]

I did - I spoke to two Nikon reps ion the 'phone about the matter.

I also agree with you about the grey imports thing - if the camera you buy is genuine (as in, not a re-badged fake), what matter is it where you bought it?

Calling therm 'grey imports' is a mis-direction, propaganda, all in order to boost an over priced local market. Same thing with the warranty refusals - buy it local or you don't get warranty..

A global economy should carry global warranty.

And here I'm with you. Funny enough, one buys Nikon/Canon/Pentax/Olympus P&S and GETS World Wide warranty!!!!! Hello, $150 P&S has it, $1500 item not. One can not defend that even trying hard. It's just because they can. 4 years ago, only FF lenses and Flash units had WW Warranty, nowadays DX / kit lenses. But not bodies. Until further notice.

.. and accept this bulldust about warranties not applying outside of the country of purchase. COME ON PEOPLE - wake up to yourselves.

It seems we're living in a global economy when it suits the big boys but hey, little individuals can't cite a global economy to get things like international warranties working. I gather from reading these forums that Nikon (in its various iterations in various countries ) is particularly active in inconveniencing their customers in the name of stamping out "grey imports". What utter claptrap. DON"T ACCEPT THIS NONSENSE.

If a camera - or any other piece of electronic equipment, was purchased legally anywhere in the world, it should carry a manufacturers warranty wherever it ends up. Full stop. No argument.

As long as we collectively behave like spineless sheep, we'll be treated as such.

To the OP - take your stand - and make sure you let Nikon in Australia AND Japan what you're doing and why. Good luck with whatever you decide.
--
Mike M. (emem)
http://www.veritasmea.com