Are FX DSLR's going away?

[pagenine]

Given the latest offerings from both Nikon and Canon, it would seem that FX cameras are on the way out. Rarely do either manufacturers release FX lens upgrades or new lenses. I'm not sure, but I don't think any FX cameras do video yet and I haven't heard of any in the pipeline.

For a while, I thought it would be DX cameras that would eventually fade away, but I think the opposite is happening now.

What do you guys think?

 

[kevin focht]

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[eblim]

HI

I think that there will be room enough for both, there are the pros and serious shooters that will want the FX format and there are the avid shooters who would prefer the DX format.

I am an old photographer from the days of the 35 mm flim cameras and even when DX was in and though the FX cameras were available but at a price way beyond what I considered to be affordable, I just used my FX lenses on a DX (D70) and refused to buy any DX lenses. Now I have the D700 and am very happy that I never did invest in DX lenses. There must be many photographers out there with FX lenses and would rather shoot with a ful frame DSLR.

Just my 2 cents worth,
eb

 

[pagenine]

I'm aware of the D3s and the D3x, but they really aren't "New" cameras, but more extensions of and already existing camera. The D3x is closer to a med. format camera and is pretty exclusive and the D3s seems more like a band-aid to stop the bleeding of Nikonians waiting for a D700x or something along those lines.

I was really surprised (not really disappointed though) to see the new Canon unit is 1.3x

Maybe the megapixel race is capping out around 14-16mp?

 

[Marianne Oelund]

Given the latest offerings from both Nikon and Canon, it would seem that FX cameras are on the way out. Rarely do either manufacturers release FX lens upgrades or new lenses.

Since the time of introduction of the D3, there have been a good number:

400/2.8 VR, 500/4 VR, 600/4 VR, 24-70, 14-24, 24mm PC-E, 45mm PC-E, 85mm PC-E, AF-S micro 60/2.8, 50/1.4G, 70-200/2.8G VR2 - how many do you want?

I'm not sure, but I don't think any FX cameras do video yet and I haven't heard of any in the pipeline.

In production: 5D Mk II, D3s. In the pipeline: 1Ds Mk IV, D700x/D800 and likely some Sony models.

For a while, I thought it would be DX cameras that would eventually fade away, but I think the opposite is happening now.

FF is trickling down (e.g., Sony A-850), it's not fading away.

 

[Fearless_Photog]

Wow...

 

[aperturenu]

You can't appreciate bokeh on a DX sensor like you can on FX.

Now that I have FF bodies, I'd be reluctant to use - let alone buy - anything else.

 

[Danlo]

Eh.. ? Sorry, but its probably the opposite, at least in a 5 year time frame. Apc-s sensor will the standard in compacts and FX will be standard in Dslr:s in five years.

 

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[Thray]

I agree. I'm looking forward to full-frame cameras getting cheaper and cheaper...

A lot of the prime lenses allow good bokeh, however. The 50mm f/1.8 has got some amazing bokeh for me, as well as the 35mm f/2.

Of course, once I move away from APS-C, I'll be ready to be blown away.

 

[M Lammerse]

LOL!

I appreciate boke even on my mobile telephone

You can't appreciate bokeh on a DX sensor like you can on FX.

Now that I have FF bodies, I'd be reluctant to use - let alone buy - anything else.

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[sting]

The D3 was announced in Nov 2007, introducing FX. Are you expecting completely new body designs in October 2009? Since the D3 announcement, the D700 and D3X were announced. The D3s was announced a couple of weeks ago. The evidence is that FX is an emerging format.

 

[DecibelPhoto]

I'm aware of the D3s and the D3x, but they really aren't "New" cameras, but more extensions of and already existing camera. The D3x is closer to a med. format camera (only in megapixel count and price, not in function) and is pretty exclusive and the D3s seems more like a band-aid to stop the bleeding of Nikonians waiting for a D700x or something along those lines.

I was really surprised (not really disappointed though) to see the new Canon unit is 1.3x

The Canon 1d line has always been 1.3x crop, so it shouldn't be surprising. It's their sports camera, apparently the logic is that sports photographers appreciate the extra "reach."

The D3s is a full frame video-capable camera, and should be considered "new," even though it is in many ways a refresh of the D3.

Then you have the D3x and the D700, without video (yet), both of which are full frame. I don't really see what suggests that full frame is going away.

In addition, Sony has two full frame cameras, and Canon should be releasing a full frame 1ds in the next year. I would expect a D700x or D800 from Nikon with video as well.

If anything, there are more full frame cameras than ever, and I expect every new model to now have video (at least from Nikon and Canon). The thing is, it's still an expensive product, so there is a large market for smaller framed cameras that are more affordable. As always, you should expect to see more non-full frame cameras and lenses than full-frame.

Maybe the megapixel race is capping out around 14-16mp?

Only for less than full-frame cameras.

 

[Punctu]

Given the latest offerings from both Nikon and Canon, it would seem that FX cameras are on the way out.

LOL!!!!!! Sadly, the only thing not on the way out is human stupidity.

Rarely do either manufacturers release FX lens upgrades or new lenses. I'm not sure, but I don't think any FX cameras do video yet and I haven't heard of any in the pipeline.

Do you think a pro needs 10 lenses for the same focal range? Like the 16-85, 18-70, 18-50, 18-50 II, 18-50 VR, 18-135, 18-105. Can they make up their mind already?
Also D3s does video, Canon 5Dmk II has video...

For a while, I thought it would be DX cameras that would eventually fade away, but I think the opposite is happening now.

What do you guys think?

PFFFFFF. Next time you wake up after ten years of sleeping, we do not want to hear your crap, go back to sleep.

Using the same stupid theory, should we consider exotic sports cars on the way out because smaller cars sell in bigger numbers????
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[pagenine]

LOL!!!!!! Sadly, the only thing not on the way out is human stupidity.

Yes, I agree. Your insightful reply pretty much proves that.

Do you think a pro needs 10 lenses for the same focal range? Like the 16-85, 18-70, 18-50, 18-50 II, 18-50 VR, 18-135, 18-105. Can they make up their mind already?
Also D3s does video, Canon 5Dmk II has video...

Compare that to the number of DX lenses released in the last 3 years.

PFFFFFF. Next time you wake up after ten years of sleeping, we do not want to hear your crap, go back to sleep.

More poignant remarks from a wise and worthwhile forum contributer. Thank you.

Using the same stupid theory, should we consider exotic sports cars on the way out because smaller cars sell in bigger numbers????

Your comparison proves your ignorance.

I suppose time will tell. But I believe the typical FX sensor (as in 35mm equiv) is dying. That is NOT to say the only sensors will be cropped ones, but I see a separation coming between cropped and larger than FX sensors.

The 1.3x cameras are near or at the level of the D700 and 5DmkII and so camera manufacturers may bag the 35mm FX and proceed directly to Med format sized sensors.

Just my $.02 so quit getting your panties in a wad.

 

[Uaru]

I think you are wrong, it is FX renaissance.

35mm is historically convenient. Even with APS-C matrixes we do constant recalculations to the 35mm format. With medium format we do the same.

On film 35mm was a compromise between portability, quality, depth-of-field, etc, in spite of the fact, that smaller and larger formats existed. It will be the same in digital.

Now, that the technological and economical difficulties of actually providing people with 35mm sensors are mostly gone, we can expect many new wonderful cameras in this format.

 

[Greg Gebhardt]

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[pagenine]

Is this the Nikon Forum or Beginners Section?

This is the Nikon Forum. If you want the beginners forum, you're in the wrong room.

Don't worry though, even though you're a beginner, it's okay to post here, so post away. You might even learn something.

 

[pagenine]

Your brief answer would imply that you're somehow in the know. What is your source(s) of such all knowing knowledge?

I love all the "experts" in this forum that claim superior insight and knowledge to things they have no factual or evidential knowledge of. There may actually be some folks here that do have respectable sources, but they are not likely to spill any beans.

It seemed perfectly acceptable to ask for peoples views of hypothetical future events in an intelligent and respectful manner in a forum such as this, and it's laughable that someone will go to the effort to reply to these views with short, illiterate, misspelled, and arrogant scribblings that add nothing to any forum.

I can't help but think these types of personality disorders bleed into their social, professional and economic lives.