C2100 - E100RS which – ONE - should I keep ?

[michel58672]

Hi, Everyone,
(Hi, Dave, your contribution is invaluable).

I have my C2100UZ since 9 weeks and I am really happy with it. (counter indicates 3229 because I want to test everything ;=)
I see these E100RS so cheap, and I can’t imagine I will not buy one. 8=)
I can’t afford 2 cameras. :=(

A friend of mines would buy my Uzi for 550$ (You can’t find a Uzi in France for less than 750$, and he does not dare buying from abroad). I had my Uzi for 625$. I could get a E100RS for 500$

Well Everything looks Ok : He will have his Uzi, I will have the same as with the Uzi plus this fantastic speed and anticipated shoot.

Really ? What will I loose ? Would you do that ? Will my B300 still work the same ? Will I still have the same fun, that is mainly learning, and changing from a point&clicker to try and become a photographer ? Will I still need to take it with me everywhere ?

To help you answer, I can say that : I am not pixel bound, I almost never print, but I like sharing my pics with the familly (my 3 children have a computer and a digicam), I never print above 10x15 centimeters (sorry I don’t know the ?inches?). I am not yet very good at PSP, but I like it and I will be.

I have followed the “E100 - c2100 comparison shots” thread, and I understand the E100RS pics “seem” sharper and compare better than the 2100 on my screen. I am used to the (maybe too much) warm cast of the 2100.

Actually, I am about to swap to the E100RS, because I think I had almost everything, and now I will have everything.
The only question is “ Will it be an error ?”
If you think so, please explain. You will be so happy to help me ;=).
Michel.
(some beginner pics at http://www.pbase.com/papy/010923aube

 

[misha]

Michel, get the E100 - looks like you'll like it even better than the 2100.

Misha

 

[Carmen Towles]

Hi Michel,

I agree with Misha...trust me, you won't be sorry. The 2100 is a great camera but there are so many more features with the 100. I had the 2100 but sold it to purchase the 100.. (I paid 1200.00 for mine) I have never looked back. I know you stated that you don't usually print but I have printed up to 8x10 (without using any software enhancements) with no problems. I know it's a little hard to believe but I assure you it's true...there's more to a camera than just pixels. Go for it!!!!

Good Luck,

Carmen

Michel, get the E100 - looks like you'll like it even better than
the 2100.

Misha

 

[michel58672]

Carmen, Misha,

Thank you for taking the time to give your opinion, which I appreciate very much, as you can imagine.
I am surprised that it did not arouse many reactions.
Maybe is it because I forgot one fundamental question :
What would Heidi S think about that ?

Michel.

Hi, Everyone,
(Hi, Dave, your contribution is invaluable).

I have my C2100UZ since 9 weeks and I am really happy with it.
(counter indicates 3229 because I want to test everything ;=)
I see these E100RS so cheap, and I can’t imagine I will not
buy one. 8=)
I can’t afford 2 cameras. :=(
A friend of mines would buy my Uzi for 550$ (You can’t find a
Uzi in France for less than 750$, and he does not dare buying from
abroad). I had my Uzi for 625$. I could get a E100RS for 500$
Well Everything looks Ok : He will have his Uzi, I will have the
same as with the Uzi plus this fantastic speed and anticipated
shoot.
Really ? What will I loose ? Would you do that ? Will my B300 still
work the same ? Will I still have the same fun, that is mainly
learning, and changing from a point&clicker to try and become a
photographer ? Will I still need to take it with me everywhere ?
To help you answer, I can say that : I am not pixel bound, I almost
never print, but I like sharing my pics with the familly (my 3
children have a computer and a digicam), I never print above 10x15
centimeters (sorry I don’t know the ?inches?). I am not yet
very good at PSP, but I like it and I will be.
I have followed the “E100 - c2100 comparison shots”
thread, and I understand the E100RS pics “seem” sharper
and compare better than the 2100 on my screen. I am used to the
(maybe too much) warm cast of the 2100.
Actually, I am about to swap to the E100RS, because I think I had
almost everything, and now I will have everything.
The only question is “ Will it be an error ?”
If you think so, please explain. You will be so happy to help me ;=).
Michel.
(some beginner pics at http://www.pbase.com/papy/010923aube

 

[Maxven]

Hi michel.

Heidi probably can't afford the E-100rs. ;-)

I've had my E-100 for short of a month. I'm really happy with it. I've played around with it a lot and I'm still learning. It has so many features and give you so many possibilities. Just look at Jens (Sweden)'s water pictures, the UZI couldn't have taken those shots.

I've seen many great pictures taken with the C-2100UZ in this forum. However, like you, when seeing the comparizon pictures, I think the E-100 comes out slightly better. You'll love your B-300 in combination with this camera. It's perfect for wildlife shooting. You never know when that little critter decides to pose just right. I'd say go for it, you won't regret it.

Regards, Maxven

Michel.

Hi, Everyone,
(Hi, Dave, your contribution is invaluable).

I have my C2100UZ since 9 weeks and I am really happy with it.
(counter indicates 3229 because I want to test everything ;=)
I see these E100RS so cheap, and I can’t imagine I will not
buy one. 8=)
I can’t afford 2 cameras. :=(
A friend of mines would buy my Uzi for 550$ (You can’t find a
Uzi in France for less than 750$, and he does not dare buying from
abroad). I had my Uzi for 625$. I could get a E100RS for 500$
Well Everything looks Ok : He will have his Uzi, I will have the
same as with the Uzi plus this fantastic speed and anticipated
shoot.
Really ? What will I loose ? Would you do that ? Will my B300 still
work the same ? Will I still have the same fun, that is mainly
learning, and changing from a point&clicker to try and become a
photographer ? Will I still need to take it with me everywhere ?
To help you answer, I can say that : I am not pixel bound, I almost
never print, but I like sharing my pics with the familly (my 3
children have a computer and a digicam), I never print above 10x15
centimeters (sorry I don’t know the ?inches?). I am not yet
very good at PSP, but I like it and I will be.
I have followed the “E100 - c2100 comparison shots”
thread, and I understand the E100RS pics “seem” sharper
and compare better than the 2100 on my screen. I am used to the
(maybe too much) warm cast of the 2100.
Actually, I am about to swap to the E100RS, because I think I had
almost everything, and now I will have everything.
The only question is “ Will it be an error ?”
If you think so, please explain. You will be so happy to help me ;=).
Michel.
(some beginner pics at http://www.pbase.com/papy/010923aube

 

[knucklehead]

Hi, Everyone,
(Hi, Dave, your contribution is invaluable).

Glad you found it usefull. I put it up as something I would have been
interested in seeing before buying.

I have my C2100UZ since 9 weeks and I am really happy with it.
(counter indicates 3229 because I want to test everything ;=)
I see these E100RS so cheap, and I can’t imagine I will not
buy one. 8=)
I can’t afford 2 cameras. :=(
A friend of mines would buy my Uzi for 550$ (You can’t find a
Uzi in France for less than 750$, and he does not dare buying from
abroad). I had my Uzi for 625$. I could get a E100RS for 500$
Well Everything looks Ok : He will have his Uzi, I will have the
same as with the Uzi plus this fantastic speed and anticipated
shoot.
Really ? What will I loose ? Would you do that ? Will my B300 still
work the same ? Will I still have the same fun, that is mainly
learning, and changing from a point&clicker to try and become a
photographer ? Will I still need to take it with me everywhere ?
To help you answer, I can say that : I am not pixel bound, I almost
never print, but I like sharing my pics with the familly (my 3
children have a computer and a digicam), I never print above 10x15
centimeters (sorry I don’t know the ?inches?). I am not yet
very good at PSP, but I like it and I will be.
I have followed the “E100 - c2100 comparison shots”
thread, and I understand the E100RS pics “seem” sharper
and compare better than the 2100 on my screen. I am used to the
(maybe too much) warm cast of the 2100.
Actually, I am about to swap to the E100RS, because I think I had
almost everything, and now I will have everything.
The only question is “ Will it be an error ?”
If you think so, please explain. You will be so happy to help me ;=).
Michel.
(some beginner pics at http://www.pbase.com/papy/010923aube

It sounds like you can't loose either way.
You'll learn a lot with either one and nothing you've said here shows
you have a real serious reason for choosing one over the other.
But for the same money - let alone pocketing $50 - I'd say go for
the e100. It really offers so much more than your normal camera
features and once you get to use them you'll love them. Jay was
right in the image comparison thread that the image quality issue
is sort of secondary when considering this camera.
You will need more memory for the camera - but you've got $50
bucks for that. And you will find yourself burried in pictures - but
what a way to go...

Have Fun,

Dave

 

[Waqas Usman]

Hi everyone

I agree with what almost eveyone has said here, if you don't print too often you won't find the resolution small, though there is no panorama mode (if you haven't noticed it so far) but hey you're getting 15 frames per second!!

Hi, Everyone,
(Hi, Dave, your contribution is invaluable).

Glad you found it usefull. I put it up as something I would have been
interested in seeing before buying.

I have my C2100UZ since 9 weeks and I am really happy with it.
(counter indicates 3229 because I want to test everything ;=)
I see these E100RS so cheap, and I can’t imagine I will not
buy one. 8=)
I can’t afford 2 cameras. :=(
A friend of mines would buy my Uzi for 550$ (You can’t find a
Uzi in France for less than 750$, and he does not dare buying from
abroad). I had my Uzi for 625$. I could get a E100RS for 500$
Well Everything looks Ok : He will have his Uzi, I will have the
same as with the Uzi plus this fantastic speed and anticipated
shoot.
Really ? What will I loose ? Would you do that ? Will my B300 still
work the same ? Will I still have the same fun, that is mainly
learning, and changing from a point&clicker to try and become a
photographer ? Will I still need to take it with me everywhere ?
To help you answer, I can say that : I am not pixel bound, I almost
never print, but I like sharing my pics with the familly (my 3
children have a computer and a digicam), I never print above 10x15
centimeters (sorry I don’t know the ?inches?). I am not yet
very good at PSP, but I like it and I will be.
I have followed the “E100 - c2100 comparison shots”
thread, and I understand the E100RS pics “seem” sharper
and compare better than the 2100 on my screen. I am used to the
(maybe too much) warm cast of the 2100.
Actually, I am about to swap to the E100RS, because I think I had
almost everything, and now I will have everything.
The only question is “ Will it be an error ?”
If you think so, please explain. You will be so happy to help me ;=).
Michel.
(some beginner pics at http://www.pbase.com/papy/010923aube

It sounds like you can't loose either way.
You'll learn a lot with either one and nothing you've said here shows
you have a real serious reason for choosing one over the other.
But for the same money - let alone pocketing $50 - I'd say go for
the e100. It really offers so much more than your normal camera
features and once you get to use them you'll love them. Jay was
right in the image comparison thread that the image quality issue
is sort of secondary when considering this camera.
You will need more memory for the camera - but you've got $50
bucks for that. And you will find yourself burried in pictures - but
what a way to go...

Have Fun,

Dave

 

[ih8hiplaces]

Even though I don't own the 2100UZ, I am having so much fun with my E100RS. If you are thinking of shooting any action shots (esp sports), this camera is a must. Everytime I press the shutter on the E100, this camera has not let me down. I get the picture that I'm looking for in the set. You do go thru many pictures, but there is always at least one in the set that is a keeper. No more being frustrated that I wasn't able to get that action shot because the camera was configuring before taking the shot. Regards, Marty

Hi, Everyone,
(Hi, Dave, your contribution is invaluable).

Glad you found it usefull. I put it up as something I would have been
interested in seeing before buying.

I have my C2100UZ since 9 weeks and I am really happy with it.
(counter indicates 3229 because I want to test everything ;=)
I see these E100RS so cheap, and I can’t imagine I will not
buy one. 8=)
I can’t afford 2 cameras. :=(
A friend of mines would buy my Uzi for 550$ (You can’t find a
Uzi in France for less than 750$, and he does not dare buying from
abroad). I had my Uzi for 625$. I could get a E100RS for 500$
Well Everything looks Ok : He will have his Uzi, I will have the
same as with the Uzi plus this fantastic speed and anticipated
shoot.
Really ? What will I loose ? Would you do that ? Will my B300 still
work the same ? Will I still have the same fun, that is mainly
learning, and changing from a point&clicker to try and become a
photographer ? Will I still need to take it with me everywhere ?
To help you answer, I can say that : I am not pixel bound, I almost
never print, but I like sharing my pics with the familly (my 3
children have a computer and a digicam), I never print above 10x15
centimeters (sorry I don’t know the ?inches?). I am not yet
very good at PSP, but I like it and I will be.
I have followed the “E100 - c2100 comparison shots”
thread, and I understand the E100RS pics “seem” sharper
and compare better than the 2100 on my screen. I am used to the
(maybe too much) warm cast of the 2100.
Actually, I am about to swap to the E100RS, because I think I had
almost everything, and now I will have everything.
The only question is “ Will it be an error ?”
If you think so, please explain. You will be so happy to help me ;=).
Michel.
(some beginner pics at http://www.pbase.com/papy/010923aube

It sounds like you can't loose either way.
You'll learn a lot with either one and nothing you've said here shows
you have a real serious reason for choosing one over the other.
But for the same money - let alone pocketing $50 - I'd say go for
the e100. It really offers so much more than your normal camera
features and once you get to use them you'll love them. Jay was
right in the image comparison thread that the image quality issue
is sort of secondary when considering this camera.
You will need more memory for the camera - but you've got $50
bucks for that. And you will find yourself burried in pictures - but
what a way to go...

Have Fun,

Dave

 

[michel58672]

Dear all,

I am very pleased to receive these positive answers from the most prolific persons in this forum - those whose I never miss reading the posts.

With the week-end coming, I will bump this thread once or twice on top - just like now - because I am just curious to read a negative opinion about my intention to replace the uzi with a E100RS.

To succeed receiving such a feed back, I Hope I will not have to initaite a provocative thread such as : "
H ey !
e 100RS
i s a
d isabled camera
i t

S ucks !
"

Michel.

Hi, Everyone,
(Hi, Dave, your contribution is invaluable).

Glad you found it usefull. I put it up as something I would have been
interested in seeing before buying.

I have my C2100UZ since 9 weeks and I am really happy with it.
(counter indicates 3229 because I want to test everything ;=)
I see these E100RS so cheap, and I can’t imagine I will not
buy one. 8=)
I can’t afford 2 cameras. :=(
A friend of mines would buy my Uzi for 550$ (You can’t find a
Uzi in France for less than 750$, and he does not dare buying from
abroad). I had my Uzi for 625$. I could get a E100RS for 500$
Well Everything looks Ok : He will have his Uzi, I will have the
same as with the Uzi plus this fantastic speed and anticipated
shoot.
Really ? What will I loose ? Would you do that ? Will my B300 still
work the same ? Will I still have the same fun, that is mainly
learning, and changing from a point&clicker to try and become a
photographer ? Will I still need to take it with me everywhere ?
To help you answer, I can say that : I am not pixel bound, I almost
never print, but I like sharing my pics with the familly (my 3
children have a computer and a digicam), I never print above 10x15
centimeters (sorry I don’t know the ?inches?). I am not yet
very good at PSP, but I like it and I will be.
I have followed the “E100 - c2100 comparison shots”
thread, and I understand the E100RS pics “seem” sharper
and compare better than the 2100 on my screen. I am used to the
(maybe too much) warm cast of the 2100.
Actually, I am about to swap to the E100RS, because I think I had
almost everything, and now I will have everything.
The only question is “ Will it be an error ?”
If you think so, please explain. You will be so happy to help me ;=).
Michel.
(some beginner pics at http://www.pbase.com/papy/010923aube

It sounds like you can't loose either way.
You'll learn a lot with either one and nothing you've said here shows
you have a real serious reason for choosing one over the other.
But for the same money - let alone pocketing $50 - I'd say go for
the e100. It really offers so much more than your normal camera
features and once you get to use them you'll love them. Jay was
right in the image comparison thread that the image quality issue
is sort of secondary when considering this camera.
You will need more memory for the camera - but you've got $50
bucks for that. And you will find yourself burried in pictures - but
what a way to go...

Have Fun,

Dave

 

[jimmy65617]

Why on earth trade in for an E-100. Yes, it's got the E-label...

You can put your 2100 on constant (~ anticipating?) autofocus but it demands battery power.

Yes, you can get 8*10 out of an e-100, by interpolation.

As long as you don't need 15 fps, your kind'a trading down...

Especially at higher sensitivities you'll be better of with the 2100 as you'll get less noisy images, whether your printing or resizing to screen size.

Next time you buy a camera you might want to look out better what suits your needs so you won't have to swap, no offence ;-)))

 

[Jens(Sweden)]

Especially at higher sensitivities you'll be better of with the
2100 as you'll get less noisy images, whether your printing or
resizing to screen size.

Ehhh.. so noise does play a role here Jimmy ? See how easy it is to bring it up as a subject

No offence

Cheers
Jens

Next time you buy a camera you might want to look out better what
suits your needs so you won't have to swap, no offence ;-)))

 

[Maxven]

Hmm Jens, what did I miss here? Sounds like internal talk. Maybe I ought to visit the SLR forum more often. ;-)

Regards, Maxven

Especially at higher sensitivities you'll be better of with the
2100 as you'll get less noisy images, whether your printing or
resizing to screen size.

Ehhh.. so noise does play a role here Jimmy ? See how easy it is to
bring it up as a subject

No offence

Cheers
Jens

Next time you buy a camera you might want to look out better what
suits your needs so you won't have to swap, no offence ;-)))

 

[Jens(Sweden)]

Hi Max,

No big issue, just a little hint of being careful not to post something that might hit back on you Let's just forget about it, the guy is new and we should treat him nice ( as we should with everyone of course

Cheers
Jens

Gee... it's getting late again..

Hmm Jens, what did I miss here? Sounds like internal talk. Maybe I
ought to visit the SLR forum more often. ;-)

Regards, Maxven

Especially at higher sensitivities you'll be better of with the
2100 as you'll get less noisy images, whether your printing or
resizing to screen size.

Ehhh.. so noise does play a role here Jimmy ? See how easy it is to
bring it up as a subject

No offence

Cheers
Jens

Next time you buy a camera you might want to look out better what
suits your needs so you won't have to swap, no offence ;-)))

 

[michel58672]

Jens, Maxwen,

I am sorry, I really understand nothing in your 3 previous posts (maybe my poor English, or the early time it is now - I must be still sleeping).
I suppose Jimmy has told something wrong or not verified about noise ?

I must admit that I see no relation between (noise) and (the differences between 2100 and E100) ? Is IT the point ?

Can you please explain the issue for me, maybe in other words for easy understanding ?
Thank you anyway for that and all your interesting contributions.
Michel.

No big issue, just a little hint of being careful not to post
something that might hit back on you Let's just forget about
it, the guy is new and we should treat him nice ( as we should with
everyone of course

Cheers
Jens

Gee... it's getting late again..

Hmm Jens, what did I miss here? Sounds like internal talk. Maybe I
ought to visit the SLR forum more often. ;-)

Regards, Maxven

Especially at higher sensitivities you'll be better of with the
2100 as you'll get less noisy images, whether your printing or
resizing to screen size.

Ehhh.. so noise does play a role here Jimmy ? See how easy it is to
bring it up as a subject

No offence

Cheers
Jens

Next time you buy a camera you might want to look out better what
suits your needs so you won't have to swap, no offence ;-)))

 

[michel58672]

Jimmy,
Thank you for the advice.

As you could read, my FINAL opinion is already made, and this posting thread wss rather a precaution I took to be sure I was not committing a big mistake.

That's why I am happy to receive one negative opinion - it is what I had requested, isn'it ? and I thank you again for that.

If I assemble all the answers, plus these ones from another recent thread about the same subject, I understand that almost everybody advises to go to the E100, and everybody agrees that it can't be a mistake - given my specific needs.

Moreover I am very happy that most of these answers were coming from persons very active at this forum, obviousely experts - especially when you see their photos, and whose I already appreciated the posts. Did you notice that the more people are experts, the more they are accomodating and humble in their opinions ?

I have ordered the E100 now, and I am really happy its price has been falling so down just after I bought my 2100. I had received this information with hanger at that time, and now it is just a very good thing ;=).

Michel.

Why on earth trade in for an E-100. Yes, it's got the E-label...

You can put your 2100 on constant (~ anticipating?) autofocus but
it demands battery power.

Yes, you can get 8*10 out of an e-100, by interpolation.

As long as you don't need 15 fps, your kind'a trading down...

Especially at higher sensitivities you'll be better of with the
2100 as you'll get less noisy images, whether your printing or
resizing to screen size.

Next time you buy a camera you might want to look out better what
suits your needs so you won't have to swap, no offence ;-)))

 

[Carmen Towles]

Jimmy you are incorrect. You don't need to interpolate to get a quality 8x10. Maybe with another camera but not the 100. I will leave it at that.

Carmen

Why on earth trade in for an E-100. Yes, it's got the E-label...

You can put your 2100 on constant (~ anticipating?) autofocus but
it demands battery power.

Yes, you can get 8*10 out of an e-100, by interpolation.

As long as you don't need 15 fps, your kind'a trading down...

Especially at higher sensitivities you'll be better of with the
2100 as you'll get less noisy images, whether your printing or
resizing to screen size.

Next time you buy a camera you might want to look out better what
suits your needs so you won't have to swap, no offence ;-)))

 

[Maxven]

Michel, I'm not quite sure either. I guess Jimmy has previously posted something about noise not being a problem with some camera (maybe the E-10). Now that he's bringing the noise issue up against the E-100 (which I've yet to see verified, allthough I've asked about it in the "E-100 underestimated..." thread. That's probably what Jens is refering to.

Regards, Maxven

No big issue, just a little hint of being careful not to post
something that might hit back on you Let's just forget about
it, the guy is new and we should treat him nice ( as we should with
everyone of course

Cheers
Jens

Gee... it's getting late again..

Hmm Jens, what did I miss here? Sounds like internal talk. Maybe I
ought to visit the SLR forum more often. ;-)

Regards, Maxven

Especially at higher sensitivities you'll be better of with the
2100 as you'll get less noisy images, whether your printing or
resizing to screen size.

Ehhh.. so noise does play a role here Jimmy ? See how easy it is to
bring it up as a subject

No offence

Cheers
Jens

Next time you buy a camera you might want to look out better what
suits your needs so you won't have to swap, no offence ;-)))

 

[Jens(Sweden)]

Good morning michel

I suppose Jimmy has told something wrong or not verified about noise ?
I must admit that I see no relation between (noise) and (the
differences between 2100 and E100) ? Is IT the point ?

He's bringing up a subject that he think people are making to big deal of ( noise ). My reaction is, why does he bring up a " tiny issue " when he think it's being talked to much about

As I said before, no big deal, let's leave it at that..

Cheers
Jens

 

[Maxven]

Jens and Michel would you join me in starting a DPA (DPreview Anonymous) club? I see you're both posting late and early, just like me. I'm an addict and I admit it. How does one get cured?

Regards, Maxven ;-)

I suppose Jimmy has told something wrong or not verified about noise ?
I must admit that I see no relation between (noise) and (the
differences between 2100 and E100) ? Is IT the point ?

He's bringing up a subject that he think people are making to big
deal of ( noise ). My reaction is, why does he bring up a " tiny
issue " when he think it's being talked to much about

As I said before, no big deal, let's leave it at that..

Cheers
Jens

 

[Jens(Sweden)]

Hi Max,

Well, I woke up this morning, looked out the window, got depressed and now I'm sitting here Yep, this forum is addictive so I'm forcing myself out this afternoon Going for some Jazz and later on, it's October festival so I should be yodelling tonight

Cheers
Jens

Regards, Maxven ;-)

I suppose Jimmy has told something wrong or not verified about noise ?
I must admit that I see no relation between (noise) and (the
differences between 2100 and E100) ? Is IT the point ?

He's bringing up a subject that he think people are making to big
deal of ( noise ). My reaction is, why does he bring up a " tiny
issue " when he think it's being talked to much about

As I said before, no big deal, let's leave it at that..

Cheers
Jens