Wii there be a cheaper ultra wide coming in the mid term?

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Everyone needs an ultra wide and people just can't afford the 7-14. I believe the 11-22 is not wide enough. So is Olympus going to come out with a cheaper ultra wide, given all APS-C users now have multiple cheap ultra wide choices? Olympus, being touted as the newly designed digital system, is certaining lagging behind in the affordable ultra wide area. Isn't that ironic?
 
I suppose Olympus designed the 11-22 thinking APS-C DSLRs didn't even have viable 28mm equivalent wide angle lens. Olympus therefore decided 11-22 was wide enough for amateur Olympus users and people have to shell out big time for the 7-14 if they are serious about ultra wide angle. This whole idea of keeping ultra wide lenses out of reach of amatuer users seems just so obsolete today, as APS-C users enjoy affordable ultra wide lenses and Oly users have to forego the immense pleasure of an ultra wide lens.
 
Have you had a look at the Olympus site? This lens is not a circular fisheye but a very wide angle lens (16mm in 35mm terms).

Few people want wider than 22mm (35mm equivalent), so the 11-22mm is quite a wide lens. In fact you won't find much more in the other brand camps, unless you go the 1Ds route.

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Aperature, for 3 months you have been complaining about Oly. If you can't afford it, buy a Canon XT and get the consumer, low grade and cheap lenses. They have plenty to choose from include 3rd party lenses.

You get what you pay for. Just because Jaguar doesn't make a car you can afford, doesn't mean they are unfair to those who don't have the cash. Such is life

Get a better job if the money is the problem.
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The 7-14 at $1424 (after rebate) from Buydig.com is affordable. But it's uses are so limited, that I just can't see buying it.
 
I suppose Olympus designed the 11-22 thinking APS-C DSLRs didn't
even have viable 28mm equivalent wide angle lens.
Olympus did not make the E-System based on the competition...I think that much is obvious. They built their own system from the ground up to be digital and to work almost perfectly as a system.

Nikon and Canon like to one up each other...Olympus does not play childish games like that. They were not looking at the APS offerings and thinking:

"All we need to do is one up them, and we are set..."

Olympus took the time to figure out what worked best with what they had.

Your post implies that Olympus is responding to the market forces...but it is actually the other way around...the market is responding to Olympus.

Look at all these digitally specific lenses that are released nowadays. Do you really think that Nikon or Canon would be making digital lenses if Olympus had not forced them to do so? No...they would just stick with that that old ass legacy stuff since it gets the job done...nothing to rave aobut...but it gets the job done...blah!

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both Canon and Nikon have affordable ultra wide angle zoom lens that you can buy today and not have to wait mid term for Olympus.

Get the Canon Rebel with the 10-22mm EF-S for less than the 7-14mm. You should definitely get that instead.

Good luck,
alan
 
Arrogant. If you are so well off, why would you stick with 4/3? Brain short-circuit?
 
It takes a lot of energy to switch system, you know? Besides, I just don't get what Olympus is thinking, which intrigues me.
 
Thanks. I see. I can't get the rebate, but $1549 is approaching my upper limit, which is $1400.
 
No regard with competition? You think Oly is run by madmen? Why do they price the bodies cheaper than competition then? How old are you? What's your education level?
 
Really? I thought a fish eye must be circular? You mean 7-14 can also be called a fish eye then? Can you give me the link? Thanks.
 
Never mind. The 8mm has a viewing angle of 180 degree, which I assume will make me feel nausea.

Anyways, I feel the the 4:3 aspect ration makes photos feel not wide enough and I seriously think everybody needs ultra wide lens.
 
If an affordable ultra wide is what you need then switching is probably your best choice. Olympus does not have any plans to release one looking at their 2006 lens chart.

With Ebay now, it's never been easier to switch systems and you'll get decent money on your used equipment.

If you're not currently happy with the lens offering from Olympus, then I would recommend switching as it will not be changing anytime soon.

Good Luck,
alan
 
Nikon and Canon like to one up each other...Olympus does not play
childish games like that.
Childish games? FYI, The bottom line for Canon, Nikon, Olympus, etc. is to make lots of money. It is a serious business.
Look at all these digitally specific lenses that are released
nowadays. Do you really think that Nikon or Canon would be making
digital lenses if Olympus had not forced them to do so? No...they
would just stick with that that old ass legacy stuff since it gets
the job done...nothing to rave aobut...but it gets the job
done...blah!
You've got to be kidding, right?

Canon (or maybe it was Nikon first) figures out that they can lower the production (and selling) cost of their entry level camera kits by using smaller (and lower cost) lenses. The other responds. It's not rocket science.
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It takes a lot of energy to switch system, you know? Besides, I
just don't get what Olympus is thinking, which intrigues me.
It's not hard to figure out. The Zuiko 11-22mm is an excellent affordable lens. The market for anything wider than a 90-degree angle of view is a niche market and has been forever. Olympus decided to address that market by knocking the ball out of the park with the 7-14mm, a lens like no other. Olympus surely made a conscious choice to sacrifice the handful of people like yourself who need something wider than 11mm, but can't afford the 7-14mm. You are probably better off switching systems.

The German fotoMAGAZIN tested a number of ultra-wides zooms for APS-C and 4:3. Here are the scores (optical/mechanical quality out of 100) and current prices from B&H. I'd look at the Tokina if I were you. It's available for both Canon and Nikon.

1. Olympus Zuiko Digital ED 7-14mm f/4: 93/91 ($1525)
2. Tokina AT-X PRO 12-24mm f/4 SD (IF) DX: 85/87 ($500)
3. Olympus Zuiko Digital 11-22mm f/2.8-3.5: 85/86 ($675)
4. Nikkor AF-S 12-24mm f/4 DX G IF-ED: 78/76 ($920)
5. Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6 EX DC HSM: 69/80 ($500)
6. Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM: 68/71 ($690)
7. Tamron SP AF 11-18mm f/4.5-5.6 DI II LD-Asph. (IF): 67/73 ($570)
 
If you want ultrawide but can't afford the 7-14, get the 8mm fisheye and use defishing software.
High quality rectilinear ultra wide angle lenses have always been expensive.

The other low cost approach is to assemble multiple images as is often done for panoramas.
 
It just look strange to me and I may end up feeling nausea
I for one want a need a fisheye. Yes, the look can be over done but in some cases nothing else will do

Regards,
Scott

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