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I'm looking at deja-vu all over again.

sorry to quote yogi, but as an original E-1 owner and early member of this forum I just am not interested in watching the iterations of new DSLR owners discovering they are now needing to consider shutter speed, f stops and available light on their subjects as a point of ignorance in order to criticize their new camera. A split forum would cut the wheat from the chaff.

Please split this forum.

well I only post on the Bird anymore anyway so have fun.

I really could care less about most of the cr*p posted here anymore.
but sadly I review it every day...
and it's getting worse.

best to the old ones
sorry I'm so crotchety to the newbys
Mike
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Draydur
(Mike Lowery) - SF bay area, CA, USA
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-- All things considered, the final image is all that matters.

 
You COULD just view yourself as someone who these people could look to when they have problems, the legit people who are really here to learn something anyway. I'm quite certain you've made mistakes when you started out in SLR/dSLR usage, perhaps these people can benefit from your experience, and look to you as a source of information.

Nothing worth doing is ever easy, and these people, some of them, pehaps only a few of them, have purchased a dSLR to allow them to grow past a point in which a P&S camera would never let them get past.

Personally, I'm not much better off then they are, so I usually don't contribute unless I know the answer or have a suggestion, but there are plenty, and I mean plenty, of people here who have the answers these newbies seek, and most are gracioius enough to post the answers.

It's a pitfall of participating in a popular forum. Where else do these people have to go when there is such a wealth of information right here, and very little elsewhere. It's the exact reason I latched onto this place when I got my E-300.

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I'm afraid that I have to agree with you!
The generic posts are few and far between.
Time to split!
Here's a link to my "rant" of a few weeks ago.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=15517293

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Bill
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Equipment in profile.

If you can visualize it, then create it in the camera, finish it off with the print that matches your mind's eye then you are, most likely, a master...

 
but the problem only a few want to learn and the rest are opinionated or just want to grandstand or troll...
I can't read every post anymore... too many for me.
I just miss the old forum that had a post last 22 hours on the first page.
Price of success. but a split is a selfish wish of mine

best to ya"
Mike
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Draydur
(Mike Lowery) - SF bay area, CA, USA
http://www.pbase.com/draydur
-- All things considered, the final image is all that matters.

 
and I'm afraid the only way to fix this is to flood the forum.
Silence will only increase the problem.
Naturescapes dot net is something I'm looking at now.
maybe its just me my friend
best
Mike
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Draydur
(Mike Lowery) - SF bay area, CA, USA
http://www.pbase.com/draydur
-- All things considered, the final image is all that matters.

 
board you haven't seemed to make a relevant post.
Do you have a hot key for "nt?"

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Regards,
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Bill
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Equipment in profile.

If you can visualize it, then create it in the camera, finish it off with the print that matches your mind's eye then you are, most likely, a master...

 
Pretty soon if your type increase here...
an example of you hypocrisy...
In recent thread you said..

"If I was to do it over again, I'd go Nikon. If you really get serious, it offers better upgrade path, plus better alternative lens path with all aftermarket vendors, Tamron, Tokina, Sigma, etc.

and here's the link...
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=15888549

Now go find a cold wet bridge to live under and don't bother us ...
You are a troll.

Begone !

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Draydur
(Mike Lowery) - SF bay area, CA, USA
http://www.pbase.com/draydur
-- All things considered, the final image is all that matters.

 
Mike, I am sorry you are disliking the forum as of late. Are you looking for people to tell you to please stay? I am beginning to wonder what the point of these "I hate the forum as it is stupid" posts.

If people hate it, no one is chaining you to the keyboard. No one has permanently affixed your internet connection to Dpreview Oly SLR forum.

Try Fred miranda, their quality of photos is outstanding. Or maybe you don't want to look at photos. Try a tech forum. Try something esle

To take out your frustrations on others is unpleasant and unproductive. It is a freakin' internet forum. With new models there will be new users. Most will get bored and move on fairly quickly. Many will take the help they have been given and improve

If they annoy you, leave. The newbie post annoy me alot less than the bitching about them ones
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Draydur,

I am trying to understand your frustration and I think I do to a certain point. Let me point out a couple of well known facts. Photography is very much hottest growing hobby in today's world. Internet has been for years now and still keeps growing. Naturally, you have more and more people joining various forums which they would never consider before because either they couldn't afford Internet or the hobby itself. This is in general and goes for other trades, hobbies as well. So percentage wise we are still where we were before just the masses are larger.

I wouldn't have problem splitting the forum if it keeps some people happy. But I'd like you to elaborate on one thing. You've said that most people are not willing to learn, "they are just oppinionated or trolls...." Well I think it's rather the other way around, few trolls, the most wants to learn including me. If you knew that this is my favorite forum and I don't even own yet a single piece of Olympus equipment you'd probably scream "Out of my forum..." :-) How can you judge who is willing to learn and who is not?

If you read this forum everyday as you said why is it so difficult to filter out the useless trolling bad posts and ignore them. It works for me and it's really not that difficult anymore.

One good example. I think everybody got kind of sick and tired of "our friend" who has been on a PF mission lately with each of his Zuiko lenses. He keeps saying the same stuff over and over, doesn't sound like he listens at all and he just embarrassed himself to the point that I don't think he will ever get a decent helpful response in the future. His post signature is so strong that even alias change will not cut it for him. What I am trying to say is you have to let it take care by itself. The problem will not disappear overnight or by splitting this forum in two, three or more groups.

Last thing. I just read the other thread when a poster put some very nice pictures out there of her fish tank. Your response was simply dreadful and rude I'd say. I know you probably didn't mean it, you were just fuming because of the forum issue. What's beyond me why you just didn't choose not to comment. Nobody would say anything to you for not commenting. It's your right and I think if anything you wouldn't insult the poster.

Anyways, as I said I think I understand your frustration, but you need to get over it. The world will not change, I think you will have to adapt and learn how to deal with it.

Cheers
 
I was replying to MilSuper and you have decided to interrupt with what I interpret as an attack.
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Please review the forum rules.

After doing so please reply back here so I know you have done so.

After that if I see you violating them I will report you to Phil.

Clear?
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Draydur
(Mike Lowery) - SF bay area, CA, USA
http://www.pbase.com/draydur
-- All things considered, the final image is all that matters.

 
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