sRGB vs Adobe RGB

[EOSMan]

Please look at the two side by side pictures and give me your opinion on which one looks the best based on color and detail.

Both pictures were processed the same with Photoshop CS except one was brought in as sRGB and the other as Adobe RGB.

I'm trying to decide whether to use sRGB or Adobe RGB.

Never mind the subject please, I was just looking for something with allot of color in it.

Thanks!

 

[aciffer]

Adobe RBG has a larger "gamut" than sRGB, meaning that it can reproduce a larger range of colors. If you are going to print with a good quality photo printer, I would use Adobe.

Please look at the two side by side pictures and give me your
opinion on which one looks the best based on color and detail.

Both pictures were processed the same with Photoshop CS except one
was brought in as sRGB and the other as Adobe RGB.

I'm trying to decide whether to use sRGB or Adobe RGB.

Never mind the subject please, I was just looking for something
with allot of color in it.

Thanks!

 

[Will F]

EOSMan
The sRGB on the right for color sat.
Will
http://willfrance.com/

 

[Vaughn T.Winfree]

To me, the photo on the right has more color and detail in it.
I looked at this image by switching back and forth on two monitors.
I will also add that I shoot, process, and have my lab print sRGB.
Regards,
Vaughn

Please look at the two side by side pictures and give me your
opinion on which one looks the best based on color and detail.

Both pictures were processed the same with Photoshop CS except one
was brought in as sRGB and the other as Adobe RGB.

I'm trying to decide whether to use sRGB or Adobe RGB.

Never mind the subject please, I was just looking for something
with allot of color in it.

Thanks!

--
Vaughn T. Winfree
Friends Don't Let Friends Shoot Film

pBase supporter http://www.pBase.com/vaughn

 

[Bob Dunn]

I don't know which is more accurate, but the right hand side looks more saturated and alive while the left side seems flat by comparison. Just my opinion.

I do all my work in sRGB because I print at White House Custom Color and they only accept sRBG input. I don't know if I'm missing anything, but it's simple this way.

--
Bob D.

 

[Leo Reinhard]

Use sRGB for web display and RGB for print. If you use RGB for web it will look duller than sRGB. However if you convert the RGB to sRGB it should look ok on the web.

Please look at the two side by side pictures and give me your
opinion on which one looks the best based on color and detail.

Both pictures were processed the same with Photoshop CS except one
was brought in as sRGB and the other as Adobe RGB.

I'm trying to decide whether to use sRGB or Adobe RGB.

Never mind the subject please, I was just looking for something
with allot of color in it.

Thanks!

--
Leo P R

SMILE

 

[EOSMan]

Does the settings in the camera affect the gamut if you’re shooting in RAW mode?

i.e. If my camera is set to sRGB, do I lose the full gamut if in RAW mode?

Thanks!

 

[Vaughn T.Winfree]

NO........
RAW is RAW..
The color space is not designated until you convert to JPEG, TIFF, etc.

You select the color space at that time.. All of the information is stored in RAW... Clear as mudd???
Vaughn

Does the settings in the camera affect the gamut if you’re shooting
in RAW mode?

i.e. If my camera is set to sRGB, do I lose the full gamut if in
RAW mode?

Thanks!

--
Vaughn T. Winfree
Friends Don't Let Friends Shoot Film

pBase supporter http://www.pBase.com/vaughn

 

[Peter Aczel]

Main difference I see is the saturation which is more deep on the right pic. Perhaps a bit sharper as well.

Please look at the two side by side pictures and give me your
opinion on which one looks the best based on color and detail.

Both pictures were processed the same with Photoshop CS except one
was brought in as sRGB and the other as Adobe RGB.

I'm trying to decide whether to use sRGB or Adobe RGB.

Never mind the subject please, I was just looking for something
with allot of color in it.

Thanks!

--

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://w3.enternet.hu/paczel

 

[Rich Dykmans]

The color setting only affects the jpegs from what I've been told. When you convert from RAW you can assign the color space. I'm having better results staying sRGB all the way to my printer or to Costco prints. Check Dry Creek Photo's website for more on this. Supposedly no current inkjet printers support anything but sRGB although the new Canon's are advertising aRGB support.

RD

Does the settings in the camera affect the gamut if you’re shooting
in RAW mode?

i.e. If my camera is set to sRGB, do I lose the full gamut if in
RAW mode?

Thanks!

 

[evan]

which is which ???

 

[Michael Kaplan]

For me, the difference is similar to the RAW vs JPG debate. If you want the best possible colors out of your photos, shoot AdobeRGB, Edit in AdobeRGB then convert & save sRGB. In order to see the quality of aRGB, you need to view it in a program that can use that colorspace. Load the pictures into Photoshop for example and you can see the differences. I remember editing a photo of a red rose and when I converted to sRGB, I really noticed the change of color due to sRGB's more limited gamut of colors. Either way, just make sure you properly use whatever you shoot it in. Saving in aRGB and viewing it with a standard sRGB viewer, you will not be seeing the right colors. There is a thread here D2H compared to 20D. The 20D pics all looked light and sickly. Take any of those pics and load them into PS any you have a beautiful picture that is probably more accurate to it's true colors than the default D2H Settings. It was a major difference.

Please look at the two side by side pictures and give me your
opinion on which one looks the best based on color and detail.

Both pictures were processed the same with Photoshop CS except one
was brought in as sRGB and the other as Adobe RGB.

I'm trying to decide whether to use sRGB or Adobe RGB.

Never mind the subject please, I was just looking for something
with allot of color in it.

Thanks!

--
Michael Kaplan
http://www.pbase.com/mkaplan
Canon EOS-20D

 

[TenDee]

EOSMan,

There is no real reason for a photographer like yourself, myself, and many others here in these forums to use Adobe RGB. Even for printing at your local mini-lab or on your inkjet printer you will want to use SRGB.

SRGB will also look better on your monitor.

Many will say that Adobe RGB has a wider gamut and they are correct. However, your inkjet can't print that wider gamut anyway and your local mini-lab will want your images in SRGB.

Here is a really good article to back up what I have just said. I have read other articles that suggest the same thing. Wedding photographers, portrait photogs, serious amateurs, and most pros should use SRGB most of the time.

http://www.shootsmarter.com/infocenter/wc025.html

Pat

Basically shoot SRGB unless you are know that your LAB will want Adobe RGB.

wrote:

Please look at the two side by side pictures and give me your
opinion on which one looks the best based on color and detail.

Both pictures were processed the same with Photoshop CS except one
was brought in as sRGB and the other as Adobe RGB.

I'm trying to decide whether to use sRGB or Adobe RGB.

Never mind the subject please, I was just looking for something
with allot of color in it.

 

[irm]

I disagree, most new printers will print a wider gamut than sRGB, but not as wide as ARGB.

There was a very good thread in the pinter forum covering this subject within the last 2 weeks if I remember correctly.

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Ian the pbase supporter.
http://pbase.com/ianm_au
An amateur with dreams of being a good to excellent photographer.

 

[G. Rightmyer]

to my eye the picture on the left appears to have more range of color, ie different shades of white etc.

 

[Ron Parr]

An Adobe RGB conversion and an sRGB conversion from the same source should look identical on most monitors when viewed in a colorspace aware application. On a really good monitor, you might see very small differences.

The fact that the left and right look quite different to me suggests that a mistake was made in combining these two images.

--
Ron Parr
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[Misirlou]

The color setting only affects the jpegs from what I've been told.
When you convert from RAW you can assign the color space. I'm
having better results staying sRGB all the way to my printer or to
Costco prints. Check Dry Creek Photo's website for more on this.
Supposedly no current inkjet printers support anything but sRGB
although the new Canon's are advertising aRGB support.

I just bought an HP 7960, and it supports sRGB and AdobeRGB. And it's been on the market now for like a year and a half.

 

[EOSMan]

I don't think I made any mistakes that I'm aware of.

The picture was shot in RAW mode and the only thing I did in Photoshop CS was select Adobe RGB for the photo on the left and loading the image again and selected sRGB for the picture on the right. Using sRGB causes the colors to appear more saturated. It does seem like the Adode RGB gives you a little more detail but the colors are duller.

Thanks for your feedback.

An Adobe RGB conversion and an sRGB conversion from the same source
should look identical on most monitors when viewed in a colorspace
aware application. On a really good monitor, you might see very
small differences.

The fact that the left and right look quite different to me
suggests that a mistake was made in combining these two images.

--
Ron Parr
FAQ: http://www.cs.duke.edu/~parr/photography/faq.html
Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/parr/

 

[Kevin Harms]

For most cases use sRGB No desktop printer can even print all the colors of sRGB let alone Adobe RGB Most pro portrait labs also want files as sRGB . Look here if you need more info. http://www.shootsmarter.com/infocenter/wc025.html

Please look at the two side by side pictures and give me your
opinion on which one looks the best based on color and detail.

Both pictures were processed the same with Photoshop CS except one
was brought in as sRGB and the other as Adobe RGB.

I'm trying to decide whether to use sRGB or Adobe RGB.

Never mind the subject please, I was just looking for something
with allot of color in it.

Thanks!

 

[Yiannis]

If you try to load an aRGB picture through a program that doesnt support aRGB, then the picture will look much duller than sRGB.

On my computer, if I load an aRGB image into photoshop, it looks more saturated. Actually when I saw your post I assumed that the right image was the aRGB image, simply because thats what I get on my system when working with photoshop.

If I attempt to load a aRGB image lets say with ACDSEE (Which doesnt support aRGB), then the image does look quite dull. Funny thing is, their editing program called fotocanvas,or is it fotoslate, (It comes with ACDSEE 6.0) supports both sRGB, and aRGB. When I load and compare an image using both colorspaces, the aRGB always comes out looking more saturated and most of the time more pleasing, just like Photoshop does. Dont know why ACDSee doesnt support it.

I shoot in aRGB, and if I want to display an image on the net or send it in for developing, I do have to convert it to sRGB, then save it as a different filename with photoshop. When converting the iomage, it seems photoshop does a pretty good job of retaing the same color saturation as the aRGB image had.

Just my 2 cents...

Johnny