Filmmaker Matteo Bertoli—who you may remember from his very popular iPhone 7 Plus cinematic video—recently got an iPhone 8 Plus to test out. And so he put on his walking shoes and spent some time shooting with the new phone all over the Los Angeles area.
The result is the 2:40 video above, all of it captured in 4K, all of it captured with the iPhone 8 Plus in either 24p, 48p or 60p, and most of it shot handheld with the exception of a few slider shots. All of the footage was captured using the Filmic Pro app (which allows Bertoli to shoot in Log, although it gave him some trouble with iOS 11), and then edited using DaVinci Resolve 14.
The results didn't disappoint.
"I was super impressed by the colors this iPhone is able to pull out," writes Bertoli in the video description. "Dynamic range is also very impressive and finally the second camera was improved at a point where you can actually use it for video. Bummer it doesn't have OIS like the iPhone X."
This video is one of the first well-rounded examples of 4K cinematic footage we've seen from the new phone, so if you're curious what Apple's latest smartphone can do with video, definitely give Bertoli's creation a watch. Now we just have to wait for a few iPhone X models to make their way into the wild...
Haha. You just gave Apple a free kick there. The footage in this article is far more likeable. Regardless - the video and stills capabilities of most modern smartphones are great.
I am not sure what is this article trying to prove. Is it about mobile phones being good enough for video (if used by a pro) or is it especially about the iPhone?
Because if it is about the iPhone and not just any other phone in that price range, the fact that there is no comparison available only leads me to believe that this is just another paid article. The title seems quite clear...
99 % of people can't tell the difference between footage like this and "professional gear super quality". Especially when most videos are consumed on 5" screens and at most in 1080 resolution. The difference won't be huge even on normal TV screens.
Unless you have access to an enormous screen (think in terms of feet rather than inches), the differences between 720, 1080, and 4K video will be imperceptible. Don't be fooled by dealer demos you see in places like Best Buy that over-sharpen and over-saturate the image to an absurd degree in order to fool you into thinking that 4K looks crisper and brighter.
thing is - the bigger the screen the further away you need to be to watch it. yes i can see the difference when i get too close, but at the normal viewing distance for a given screen size i cannot distinguish 1080 from a 4k. Pumping these resolution figures got to the point of just marketing new stuff so people can buy them over and over again.
It's known as the point of diminishing returns, and we passed that point some time ago. The difference between 720 and 1080 does not become perceptible until you get above a 27-inch display, and the difference between 1080 and 4K isn't perceptible until you exceed 60-inches. Most homes can barely accommodate a 48-inch television.
As long as this time they don't waste time with all the tittle tattle above decks and stay in the engine and boiler rooms. The only really interesting part in the film was when the intrepid lovers ran through those.
I'm probably a better photographer than a videographer, but I've been looking to experiment the video/filming side for a while. (hobby only) Having looked at the footage, I feel it's good, and I agree that it markets apple more than Matteo, but such is life. Ever since I changed ship to Android, (I just cannot stand ios - not for me) I've been looking for an android alternative to experiment with, before jumping into a bmpcc... The link below shows what the LG V30 is capable of, and to me looks more impressive than the IP8+ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAth8g05tfs
You need a cinema to actually make use of it. It is a bit like sitting 3 ft in front of the TV to appreciate 4K in all its glory. Technology is leaving practical utility and affordability way behind.
KeepCalm: Cinematic are technique used as well as technical quality of the footage. But mostly how it is filmed. You don't need 4K to make it cinematic.
This is not to diminish anybody's expertise, but this is scenic, but not necessarily cinematic. We use to do this all the time creating a spot - take a lot of Broll, lay down a sound track, put the footage in the blender (Avid, Final Cut, Premier, etc), spin it up, and presto, instant spot for the client.
I will say the quality of the sensor is pretty good for a phone. Truly amazing. Now go sit at the coffee shop and edit a film for the next Sundance.
No I would just love to buy a camcorder again that does not suck. All the camcorder makes purposely geld their consumer camcorders to to justify their overpriced "pro" gear.
Some people hate cats, some hate tomatoes some hate Trump some love Trump some love iphone some hate iphone no big deal If you some love a life of hate anti iphone lovers that is very sad as it consumes too much wasted time remember some people hate wasting time others love it
GoPro just released their new GoPro today and it has the same exact specs as the camera for the iPhone 8 with the exception of the lens, obviously.
The iPhone is an amazing tool in the hands of a lot of people and for every iteration, they continue to raise the bar. Fortunately, as they raise theirs, so do camera and video manufacturers. We are truly living in a blessed time.
When I look at this video, it looks incredible. However, there is a HUGE difference and I do mean HUGE difference between professional gear and the iPhone and people are aware and are going to expect the highest quality.
When I watch TV, I am aware of the technology, lens, etc. and now in very dark places without a lot of extra lighting, cameras are able to provide more light and bring out the details that they could never do before. The iPhone only gets better, but cannot compete with that.
I couldn't (respectfully) disagree more. Shooting video on a phone, you're pretty much stuck with the nearly infinite dof. Given this limitation, I think that the video looks amazingly cinematic. Composition can go a long way in compensating for shallow dof, if done correctly.
This little movie is definitely a pleasure to watch and this pleasure is not at all disturbed by any visible flaw in the IQ, so It may not be cinematic per se but the results are convincing enough.
"Cinematic" is the most overused buzz word on the internet. 99% of the people using it know next to nothing about real cinematography. They get all of their education from Youtube, forums and Instagram stories.
There is nothing cinematic about this video. It looks like exactly what it is... a flat, cheesily-edited, very nice cell phone video.
Personally, I was thrilled with the stunning quality that I saw presented in this "test" video. Many of the slow and deliberate movements added to the professional vibe. There were even a few shots included that made use of the camera's ability to provide selective focus (under the right conditions, of course), nice. No, it wasn't perfect, but from what I understood, it was a camera test, so I viewed it with that in mind.
Hey, it's a phone camera. Seems to me that the punch line for this "joke" is that not only can you make calls, access the internet, and do any of a zillion other things with it, but you can also make beautiful movies as well, limited only by your talent and imagination.
I remember back when folks laughed at the thought of editing "cinematic" movies on computers (yes, I'm an old guy). Times are changing, enjoy the ride : )
I'm no expert on video, but is it accurate to say that the best phone cameras are more competitive in video versus traditional enthusiast level cameras than in still photography?
I lived in Marina del Rey for a few years and this video makes me think that perhaps I should have stayed instead of giving in to my perpetual need for change.
Cool. I have played with a few videos from iPhone 7 and know it takes some time to edit. However, I do agree with the piano drifts in the background - makes the video a bit depressing! Sorry. But a good clip nevertheless, however, you should sell it to Best Buy to run on their 4K tv’s cause it does not do justice on my iPad! Cheers
iphone 8 or a gh4? hmmm. ill go with a gh4. by the way, only the editor should be worth mention, he did a good job trying to make apple look good. hope he gets paid for it too cause that would suck if he did not. he just promoted apple for free.
Probably it was a free version of Resolve, as even the processed footage does not have enough contrast pop to give it some visual depth. Or, perhaps, they did not want to spend time on color grading. In any case, aside from the letterbox, nothing in this clip looks cinematic :)
Am not a fan of the UX on anything iOS from Apple (other than Garage Band), but the video here is tack sharp so kudos to Apple for that. All said, my Note5 is little different though and is a 2 year old phone. And the Note (and other Samsung, Sony and LG phones) have the ability to pause whilst recording (saving on edits and splicing later) and records STEREO audio, in fact, my Note 1 or 2 did!
One more thing, I use my Note5 to shoot video for our hobby site at TeleSerenity.com and shooting in the day is a nuisance because no matter how bright the display, a viewfinder is really vital for composition and checking focus. Sometimes I shoot video and only later when viewing on my monitor do I notice a problem with focus or other thing that is hard to spot on the sunlight washed out phone screen.
So, am going to get a GH5 or similar and do it properly! (Big fan of Panasonic usability/ergonomics over other brands.)
Nice footage, but the story has a lot of loose ends. Like, what became of Ramon? Did he ever call back? And did Liz ever find the thing she was searching for under the pier? Was it a Rolex? And what about the paddle boat people? They actually knew more than was ever revealed, didn't they?
This video did not make me want to visit Los Angeles. I don't know if it's because of the video or because of the place itself. It just doesn't look inviting.
It has no character, but having visited twice to stay with a former GF, the people are a lot more friendly and natural than Northern California (where I lived 10 years), where they are too wrapped up in their careers and come across as friendly but distant. LA wise, I spent time in Beverly Hills, which does have a nice community. I was in Ralph's Supermarket one day (1990s) and a) A woman went into labour (ended up giving birth whilst laying at the end of the aisle) and at same time b) I saw Stephen King in line at the checkout. (No kidding BTW!) Thing is, the city is built around the automobile, unlike say London that has communities being it was built 1000s of years ago when our transport didn't really travel in a straight line...
Has anyone tried to edit iPhone 4k videos on iMovies directly on their iPhones? What's the experience like? I've been forcing myself to make short clips with my phone regularly, and so far I've stayed away from 4k because I want the process to be as simple as possible. I want to shoot and edit everything on my iPhone. 4k would allow me to crop much more. But I'm not sure if iMovie on iOS can handle it
There are many was to get sound in and out of an iOS device. Look up Sound Devices MixPreD for example. First class preamps and A/D converters digitallly connects to iOS via USB camera connections kit equals or exceeds ANY camera or portable recorder. Or you can plug directly in an $80 lav mic.
Wow, harsh crowd as usual. Ok, this is nothing really special compared to what’s coming out of Hollywood etc, but it does beat 99% of the other cameraphone videos ive seen, and can show that these things do produce the goods, providing you make the effort.
'the quality is ok'....lo.l We most certainly getting a bit blasé. Only a few years ago none of this was possible. The technology is amazing today, and it will go from strength to strength from month to month. If you told somebody 50 years ago that from a little hand held gadget you could talk and see somebody in Australia from the UK...they would never believe you. We are getting to blasé.
@Tabloid... Yes, people are spoiled, but the point is that the technical side of the video isn't impressive give that basically any camera released in the last 3 years could do just as well. It's the breathless fluttering that accompanies every Apple release that draws the snark. I don't see anything that couldn't have been done with an iPhone 6s Plus, let alone a top end MILC. Yes, we're spoiled, I know, so given that, why is this noteworthy?
I don't believe it was handheld, and even if it was, it was definitely with stabilizer in the same hand and who know what kind of light support behind him. Didn't DPR mentioned about tricks videographers do for such "shot with IPhone" promo videos?
Funny how many people still act surprised: 'wow it's from a phone'. 'Phones' are miniature computers with amazing cameras, screens and processing power. Those are the things that are the key selling points and most of the R&D is based around these things. They can also be used to make a call, sure, but they are not just phones any more. They haven't been for many years now. Let's stop pretending how we are so surprised what a phone can do. I have not bought a new mobile device in the last 15 years because of any improvement of the making a call part.
it's even more funny as the IQ is about the same, compared to lat years cinematic video shot with the 7 :) ... and about the same compared to most flagship phones demo-videos from the last 2-3 years (4K capable, of course).
In an alternate lifetime, I spent 13 years as a Boeing software and systems engineer on the B-1B nuclear bomber. Before upgrades, it had 8 IBM computers (avionics control units) that had either 128 or 256 kilobytes of ferrite core memory, not megabytes or gigabytes, but kilobytes. My iPhone 8+ has 128 gigabytes of memory.
Ferrite core memory on the B-1B because (1) it is not volatile and (2) because it was thought to be more resistant to the electromagnetic pulse that nuclear weapons create.
We’ve come a long way, baby. It may turn out that future robots will consider humans to be superfluous.
Someone needs to do a shoot-out between this thing and a $800 or $900 honest-to-goodness 4K camcorder like the Sony AX-53. I have a feeling that the Sony might surprise people.
Love the overuse of the "cinematic" term. Shot in slo-mo a hipster girl with the sun behind her, tweak the color correction with some VSCO style filters, add some melancholic tune and voilá. Cinematic!
What made you think she's hipster? Is it because she's pretty and skinny? Or because she's wearing jeans shorts? In the the later case, 1/4 of the world is hipsters.
Good question. It's important to point out that shallow DOF + 720p would be better than 4K Wide-angle for narrative and artistic filmmaking, documentary filmmaking, music videos, etc.
While for VLOGing, Stock videography, landscapes, etc: a wide 4K camera would be a better choice like this Iphone.
(I personally make short narratives for actors reels and I do corporate videos that include mostly interviews so DOF control is key in the aesthetic needed.)
Am I missing something? The technical aspects of this video aren't all that impressive, really. Reasonable sharpness, decent colours, boring endless depth of field... Nothing I wouldn't expect from any video capable device released in the last 3 years. The framing and editing are what make the video. It shows what (hopefully) we've always known: even mediocre devices in capable hands can be impressively, uh, capable.
He would get less detail in the wide shots, but generally yes he would do better. Having a FF sensor with an endless creative lensing choice with EF, Cine, Nikon, M42 mounts would result in immediate change in the video quality.
Video quality is far from being only about sharpness.
It is important to remember that getting a 60p 4K readout from a FF sized sensor requires MUCH more effort than a cellphone sensor.
Canon are still fighting overheating. Sony gave the feature (30p that is, but 4K FF) without solving the problem but then increased the heat threshold (these a7 camera get HOT). Panasonic has 1/4 the sensor size.
I know most people don't believe it but I know for a fact from a very involved bird, that Canon's only reason for not offering 4K sooner in all their DSLRs is the heat generated from the sensor readout/processing.
They need to solve this technological feat or they'll be left behind (more than they already are)
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