Baking and taking photos share some fundamental similarities – with all of the right ingredients and some technical know-how, you can make magic happen. We recently joined food photographer Ashley Rodriguez and pie expert Kate McDermott for a bit of both with the Canon EOS M5, the company's flagship mirrorless camera.
The EOS M5's 24MP APS-C sensor, Dual Pixel AF and tilting touch screen gave Ashley plenty of flexibility working in Kate's kitchen. And did we mention there's pie? Take a look at the EOS M5 in action.
just getting ready to take the plunge on a camera,was leaning on the sony A6500 but saw this video review may sway w/ the Canon, I am a foodie photo bug, using iPhone,iPad :( ready to move on and take serious photos. was @ local Electronic store trying both camera's in my hand the Canon have a great sturdy grip that I like compared to the Sony but it is not a camera that I can toss in my purse,ahhh the dilemma wish I can afford to buy both :(
I very much enjoyed the pie making venture, brought back good memories spend in the kitchen with my late grandma. plus the pie looks delish! and I am sure it is! love the video :) p.s. I am a newbie in this & always love taking photos of anything, searching for a camera that would take awesome pics/videos ....camera that I can grow with
Just buy a small waist belt camera bag, the camera is always ready for you. Or you can order a leather pouch if you are concern about fashion and appearance :)
I don't seem to be able to get such pleasing colors with my Sony A6000. I've used the Sony for about 2 years now, and I kinda yearn for the color rendition of Canon. Back when I bought my Sony A6000, Canon did not have a viable mirrorless alternative with viewfinder, and even now the M5 is a bit conservative in its technology. But the next update of the M5 might tempt me to jump ship to Canon mirrorless.
BTW, I enjoyed the video irrespective of whether it was a paid commercial or not. C'mon, every camera mentioned on dpreview is done so with the intention of getting us to buy it, so what can't Dpreview's videos be paid commercials too?
I noticed that she generally did not use the viewfinder, That macro lens with the built-in light seems like a good idea. I wonder what kind of lighting was used, were their full blown studio lights involved? The lighting seemed to be too good for casual shooting. With so many cameras being so good, its the lighting that makes the difference.
Perhaps a piece on how the lighting was done? I'd certainly like to learn more.
Barney, great video and many thanks! Question: what were your PP and settings on the M5 for video? I would like to sell my 5DMK2 and replace it with something like the M5 for video. Trouble is that the latest batch of Canon (80D, M5) cameras seem to reproduce skin tones with a plasticy appearance. Is it just me? Maybe the contrast was turned down too much?
I have a recent experience that Panasonic GM1 and 14mm f2.5 is a great inconspicuous combo for food photography while travelling or experiencing new places & foods. The 2.5 aperture together with good close focus capabilities allow for just right amount of background blur as seen here from my recent trip to Barcelona - https://www.dpreview.com/galleries/3897058264/albums/food-with-micro-4-3.
But my favourite combo for my wife's creations is GX80/85 + Pana 25mm 1.7 nifty fifty. GX80 has a great tilt-able flash and works great for bouncing and 25mm F1.7 and its good close-focusing capability allows for great control of depth of field. I find my favourite setting at around ISO400 1/40 + bounce onboard flash + around F2 +/- as seen on these photos I take regularly nowadays. Enjoying the convenience of shooting JPEG and post-processing to taste in Googles Color Efex Pro.
LOVED this one, Bravo.... might need to finally really consider getting the 28 macro..great shots... I'll decide right after i go bake a pie...cause now I'm hungry...the recipe would have been a nice added touch... mp
Anyone else feels that many of the comments on some product news, reviews, ads here just look like paid reviews from fake members (similar to those on Amazon?)
That was fun. These keep getting better. I also appreciate that you're taking the whiner's complaints to heart and making it REALLY OBVIOUS THIS IS A COMMERCIAL. So what? It's fun, free content that's always less about the camera and more about the adventure, however humble, you're embarking on.
Hmm, interesting Dr. Jon. Thinking about it, I think Barney doing a Steve Irwin impression would be very entertaining. "Croikey! Can you believe the size of that poie?"
Ranks with the"Building a Kayak" video as Barney' s best. Love seeing people who are so passionate about what they do and equally the people who appreciate their work. Great video- thank you.
I enjoyed that. Thank you. Barney, you should consider doing some oddball stuff and becoming the American equivalent of Louis Theroux. Maybe a story about Internet Forums ;-)
Barney and Ashley, you have presented a magnificent deeply personal view of both pie and the Canon M5. On a five-star scale, I would conservatively give it a twelve. Barney knows how picky (and snarky) I tend to be. Was extremely impressed with the many close-ups using a variety of lenses. I also liked the subtle accuracy of the M5's color rendition. No need or room for snark here. Ashley, you need to visit Shawano, WI, about 45mi west northwest of Green Bay and put on a pie-making demo, but I'm afraid we would need to commandeer Lambeau Field to accomodate all the folks who would sign up. I see definite possibilities among the limited current array of Canon M lenses. Hope more are in the works. Cheers, Ralph Wallace
No, not interested in Sony or Nikon pie either as long as companies are paying for these advertisements.
It's really nothing but an advertisement that is veiled as a video blog entry. I love the use of the word "Sponsored" too, because it sounds a lot more pleasant than "Paid for by brand X". I don't care if Canon, Nikon, Sony or someone else pays for these. As long as money is involved, I will see these as paid ads with bias towards the client that is paying for them.
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I don't care if this is sponsored, I ate it up. Even then, it shows why Canon needs to do more with their mirrorless line. While the M5 looks pretty good especially with Dual Pixel AF, after 11 years of Canon DSLRs, I recently got my first mirrorless, and I chose…the Panasonic G85. It was largely because of the lens selection.
Your sarcasm is unwarranted. My comment about high ISO being unsuitable for food photography had nothing to do with depth of field, or illogical odd ideas about limiting photography to low ISO without good reason.
In food photography, it is normally considered important to ensure that the colours and textures of food are enhanced to show them at best advantage, thereby conveying tastiness. High ISO does the opposite - the higher the setting, the more it reduces colour saturation, introduces casts, and causes fine textures and shadow/highlight details to be reduced.
Nice story-telling, but I wish Canon repurposed some of its marketing budget toward figuring out the ubiquitous video heat problem and building a true enthusiast camera. Having 1080p 120fps and higher-bit video would make a much more lasting impression on this would-be mirrorless buyer than the fact that a DSLR photographer agreed to shoot with M5 for a day.
except all canon usa usually does in cases like this is provide the loaner gear.
if memory serves me correctly, I'm sure Barney, et all can jump in.
So it's not really that it's costing them any money really it's just a camera,etc out of the loaner pool.
and the two are really separate you know.. marketing in a subsidurary company half way across the globe to the parent company that started the R&D up to 3 years ago...
Don't forget the private *cough* jet fare and all the dough that went into production of the segment :D
On a serious note, I was talking about Canon's overall corporate strategy for winning the users, which is a lot about marketing, whereas I would wish it to be a bit more about technical break-throughs.
@PhotoDiod: Canon management has admitted that their development is slow, and I can't disagree. :-) On the bright side, I don't recall them making major blunders like Nikon DL and Nikon 1.
In the interview, they said their development is slow on purpose and they gave the reasons for it. Every company has their own strategy. Maybe this is why they are #1.
Being #1 comes with a responsibility to lead. Also, “You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed.” And tamed people have been when they bought into 5DII's promise of leading enthusiast video capabilities. And when I say 'bought', I mean literally, thousands of dollars worth of lenses and other Canon products.
Ultimately, it comes to corporate-centric vs consumer-centric perspective. My narrative is that of the latter. Why anyone other than the corporation itself would promote the former is beyond me. Is it the reverence toward the big brother?
@PhotoDiod - Canon is not a government agency or charity and it does not reside in Sweden. It is not government controlled. It is only responsible to itself and its stockholder. The 5DII was used to make many good videos by amateurs and professionals. It is up to consumers to check out the hype in any advertising. I you want virtually complete independent camera analysis look up the camera test in Consumer Reports Magazine. The Canon 5DII is near the top.
By virtue of amalgamation between the government and big business, corporations qualify to be regarded as Big Brother, too.
You seem to have misread what I was saying about 5DII. It is a great camera. It was an amazing camera. I had one. And, being interested in video, I have invested into Canon's system hoping that 5DII meant that Canon would continue taking enthusiast video seriously. Which lately has not been the case.
ive paused the video to add to this discussion .... always the most interesting part of any dpreview article
fungus was mentioned already ... it take literally millionths of a gram of a growth medium to begin nourishing a fungal spore on a petri dish or a lens element .. the flour on the camera , as adorable as it is , is a recipe for disaster [ npi] as this camera and its lenses are not environmentally sealed , [not s ure that would even help here ] there is already plenty of food, microscopically distributed, for a lens infection to potentially occur , .......imho
monkey an environmentally sealed lens without the push pull action that sucks air in like a vacuum is much less likely to suffer a fungus on interior elements than a cheaper non sealed one
all lenses are vulnerable , but sealed ones are at lesser risk than cheap ones open to spores and organic particulates and the horror of condensation
I believe the 80D is weather sealed.So is the A6300, So is the X-T2, so is EM-5 so is the G85 and of course all recent Pentax models except for the K-S1
I can't tell what I appreciated more, the almost-pie-smelling humanity while, still, extremly informative content on this feature or the sheer brilliancy of bagging a chocolate cake + an awesome plane ride + a scrumptious apple pie under the pretext "oh, you know, I HAD to test the camera"
Suggestion for the M6?...À Milwaukee brewery followed by a local strip joint :)
Seriously, you couldn't have a biggest fan of these "environment reportages" for camera tests. Thank you for doing them.
Wonderfully made video; content like this puts DP Review leagues ahead of other digital photography review sites. And Barney himself is a real find. His gentle, good humored presence makes him an ideal guide for these videos, and this one is a perfect example.
I'm good with sponsored content..... It's clearly labeled. No worries. Philip Bloom gets paid to test things all the time. And I enjoy watching his videos. Same here. No sinister plot.... :-)
citrate - in the past, people have complained that Sony-sponsored items were not clearly labelled as sponsored content. Dpr have kindly rectified that, and now indicate prominently when an item is sponsored. Now you are complaining about that! These poor guys at dpr are trying to please everyone, but it seems that in some eyes whatever they do is wrong!
Excellent content. Not sure what I enjoyed more, the story telling, the video work or seeing Barney in a pinny.
Only slight criticism would be I don't feel there was enough feedback on how you both felt the camera performed. General impressions seem that it performed very well and the compact size and easy of use were appreciated.
I agree. This is a great piece, and I enjoyed it thoroughly (and those pies...when will someone create a way to convey smell via a smartphone!?) with good information about the capabilities of the M5 and also Kate's approach to shooting food, but I would like to have heard a wrap-up. Since you asked her to "test" the camera, it would have been helpful to have a short clip at the end asking her how she liked shooting with the M5 and compare/contrast it with her shooting experience with her DSLR.
I think content like this is great. However, you must keep in mind that it was sponsored by Canon, so you can't expect an objective review of the camera in the video.
It's a lot easier to find more interesting angles and points of view when your eye (and the head, neck and torso that comes with it) isn't tethered to a viewfinder.
For me, I find I can take more interesting photos using the freedom of the rear screen, especially if it tilts.
But it's not a one size fits all kind of thing, for telephoto shooting such as wildlife or sports, I find a viewfinder still provides a better shooting experience. Also when shooting in bright sunlight it can make the screen difficult to see, so a viewfinder is preferred then too.
That's why I prefer the M6 to the M5, an optional finder allows for an even smaller package, but still have access to a viewfinder when appropriate.
That's what I don't like with viewfinders : your framing is somewhat "locked" to face level and some natural orientation for the usual human. Rear flippy screens give much more creative freedom IMO. Edit : grilled by Najinsky
I'm a studio photographer that has been liberated from the viewfinder thanks to 6x loupes and when lucky, live view exported to an external computer monitor or iPad.
Viewfinders are slower, harder on the eyes and basically unconstructive for all but action or discreet photography.
I can get by without a VF if I have to, but I'd rather not. It's practically a necessity working out in daylight, plus it gives you a steadier grip since your head is a more stable platform than your arms outstretched in front of you.
@shigzeo I'm not arguing that point? The discussion here has been of cameras and the use of VFs in general terms, not narrowed to one specific situation. If all I cared about was food photography great, but the whole reason most people buy into an ILC system is because of its flexibility to adapt to many different shooting situations. Which incidentally is a prime reason I wouldn't buy into Canon's mirrorless system, with their embarrassingly immature lens lineup. (and no, i'm not counting adapted EF lenses)
Read the OP again. It was questioning what it saw in the video where the people only used the LCD. And that, not something else, is what all of us should be responding to.
I'm not moderating what you discuss, but you are having are arguing points from a conversation not germaine to the one we are having.
He context was: viewfinder use in the video. The question was why? The answer is that in still life photography, the viewfinder is often the worst way to view, compose and focus on a subject.
The conversation isn't about sports, or out of doors, or critical camera drag situations where absolute hand held stability is of dire importance.
I think everyone would agree: in those situations, nothing is better than an eye level viewfinder. But that wasn't that we were talking about.
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